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kellster102292
1st October 2009, 20:06
Hey everyone, I have a question about the effect of propaganda in each type of government. Such as in the main ones like a democracy, communism, anarchistry, or a socialist government. Any answer is appreciated, and if you could give examples of some propaganda that would be good too.
Invincible Summer
2nd October 2009, 05:32
Hey everyone, I have a question about the effect of propaganda in each type of government. Such as in the main ones like a democracy, communism, anarchistry, or a socialist government. Any answer is appreciated, and if you could give examples of some propaganda that would be good too.
What is your actual question? All you have are statements...
But "propaganda" is pretty much any message conveyed through any medium used to sway someone's opinion.
So for capitalist propaganda, watch Bill O'Reilly or Glenn Beck - they try to promote "American values," and are obviously pro-capitalist (as Glenn Beck had a whole "Obama's road to Communism" segment including animation and music), or anything really that promotes free-market values and privatization.
Communist/Anarchist/Socialist (assuming that people are using the correct definitions) propaganda would generally be the same - promotion of a stateless, classless society that is worker-run.
KarlMarx1989
2nd October 2009, 09:04
I think that the propaganda we should spread should be about how it would create more equality and workers' rights rather than 'why its better than Capitalism' or 'why Capitalism is bad.' We can't change the minds of Capitalists by bashing their way of doing things. That just makes it seem like we're making personal attacks on them; when we should be doing it for the greater good of all the people.
Another thing that should be emphasized on is that even though Capitalism has worked in history, it has served its purpose and how Socialism would make a failing Capitalist economy improve again.
hefty_lefty
2nd October 2009, 20:21
Propaganda isn't just a message, it is a well thought out plan, often accompanied with powerful visuals.
A message never wholly truthful, but skewed to benefit the party which creates it.
Its much like commercials on tv, seemingly simple but infact quite complex and subliminal.
NecroCommie
4th October 2009, 19:27
I agree with hefty lefty, but the OP also has some serious mistakes concerning forms of government. Democracy is not a form of government, but a way of coming to a common decision. The systems of government you propbly meant is called parliamentarism, and is democracy only in theory, if even at that.
Also, communism is basically just extreme democracy, so it seems kinda daft to differentiate democracy and communism/anarchism and such.
kellster102292
4th October 2009, 20:49
Just to make my question clear for this topic(which thanks to Rise Like Lions) I realized I forgot to include it. I was wondering what effects propaganda has for in each different kind of government. Since there are so many people on here with different viewpoints I thought you all could help me out.
Искра
4th October 2009, 20:54
there's no anarchist government :laugh:
kellster102292
4th October 2009, 20:56
there's no anarchist government :laugh:
Well you got me there, but does not anarchist's use any form of propaganda to recruit members?
NecroCommie
4th October 2009, 21:10
Propaganda is not a phenomenon as a value of it's own. It is a means to persuade population to your viewpoint. Therefore capitalist propaganda attempts to persuade population into capitalism, and communist propaganda into communism. The impact that these actions have in the actual oppinions of the populace depends entirely on the quality of propaganda. The most effective propaganda I have seen so far are the vast commercial add-projects in the west. They don't even address their core message directly, yet it still appeals to ridiculous volumes.
The importance of propaganda on leftist organzations vary greatly. There is no real answer to this, as the impact of propaganda depends more on the variables around it, than on the actual propaganda itself.
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