People's republic of China celebrates 60th anniversary

[Das war einmal]

China marks 60th National Day with military parade BEIJING: China on Thursday celebrated 60 years of Communist rule by staging its biggest-ever military parade of latest defence hardware and lavish pageantry with its top leader saying “only socialism can save” the country.
Amid tight security, thousands of troops marched in tight formations. The People's Liberation Army, the world’s largest military, also unveiled its most sophisticated weaponry including new intercontinental ballistic missiles in a patriotic show of force .
The Chinese President, Mr Hu Jintao, dressed in a gray Mao tunic instead of the Western suit he usually wears, reviewed the troops and hundreds of tanks and other weaponry, shouting “Hello, comrades” while riding in an open-top, Red Flag limousine ‘Made in China’.
“We have triumphed over all sorts of difficulties and setbacks and risks to gain the great achievements evident to the world,” Mr Hu, also the General Secretary of the Communist Party said while addressing the nation from atop the Tiananmen Gate ahead of the two-hour-plus festivitie

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/blnus/10011281.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__2Q9HRJGY&feature=player_embedded

'Only socialism can save the country'- agreed, so lets get busy then shall we?

[Comrade Kaile]

maybe the title should read 'streets turn red for biggest ever celebrations of reactionary china'

this is the kinda stuff we need a vanguard for

[Dimentio]

*waiting for someone to make a hell march video*

[Crux]

http://www.chinaworker.info/en/content/news/848/
China's 60th anniversary celebrations not for "the people"
Tuesday, 29 September 2009.
It's ticket-holders only for 60th anniversary celebrations in Beijing

chinaworker.info

It is being billed, inaccurately, as the "largest celebration the country has ever witnessed" (Telegraph, UK). When China's nominally 'communist' regime stages grandiose celebrations of 60 years in power on Thursday, 1 October, it will have gone to extraordinary lengths to keep out "the people" in whose name it claims to rule. "It's the People's Parade, but you'd better stay home to watch it unless you are one of the lucky few with a ticket to the festivities at Tiananmen Square," commented the South China Morning Post in Hong Kong (25 September). Only 180,000 tickets have been issued to hand-picked guests. Ten years ago the crowd was around 500,000, and in the 1989 over a million people participated.

With 74 million party members around China it is not so difficult to pick out 180,000 worthies for the coming ticket-only festivities. Limiting attendance in Beijing's iconic main square is just one way the ruling party wishes to keep airtight control of the anniversary to avoid embarrassing protests. Inhabitants of apartments along the city's main east-west axis, Changan Avenue, have been told they cannot invite guests to their homes for the duration of the anniversary ceremony, or open their windows or go out onto their balconies! The official reason given is the military parade that will feature some of China's most technologically advanced weaponry.

Further references are made to terrorism, with the Uighur Muslims from Xinjiang cited most often as a possible threat. But it is clear the extraordinary security measures - more extensive than during last year's Olympics - are also aimed to avert political protests, such as the unfurling of a banner, or other actions that could spoil the regime's day. Flying objects including kites and homing pigeons have been banned within 200km of Tiananmen Square. Even normally packed shopping precincts in central Beijing are being closed ahead of the anniversary on security grounds. There were reports that Beijing's taxis have been bugged as part of this security sweep, but this was denied by the city's Vice-Mayor Ji Lin. "I do not believe this exists," he told the South China Morning Post.
It was on 1 October, 1949, that Mao Zedong announced the foundation of the People's Republic of China. Speaking to a crowd almost twice the size of those being admitted to this week's anniversary gathering, Mao declared "the Chinese have stood up". The Chinese revolution swept away feudalism and capitalism and introduced major social changes with the all-important lever of a state-owned and planned economy. Mao's regime, based on the peasantry, was forced by mass pressure to go further than his own initial intentions and to introduce a version of Stalin's bureaucratically-degenerated regime in the Soviet Union. This was not socialism, but Stalinism. The door was opened to industrialisation and big advances in literacy, healthcare, and public education, but rather than the masses running society democratically, all decision-making power was concentrated in a vast, privileged, one-party bureaucracy.

Mao's successors have long distanced themselves from Stalinism in the economic sphere and increasingly embraced capitalism. Global capitalist concerns have responded in kind. Pepsi Co are among the big U.S. corporations getting in on the 60th anniversary celebrations in China. They are running TV adverts with youngsters singing into a Pepsi can: "You are always in my heart, China bless you." Not to be upstaged, MacDonald's outlets in China are staging a promotion with meal vouchers bearing the slogans "Powerful China" and "China is on the move". If you opt for a super-size meal at the fast-food chain, you get a free Coca Cola glass with which to "toast China". Who would believe that U.S. imperialism spent six billion dollars in arming Mao's opponent Chiang Kai-shek during the long and bloody civil war and, one year after the 1949 power shift, debated whether to drop a nuclear bomb on China.

The Chinese regime today has been shaken by a range of political and economic setbacks, from the outbreak of the most serious ethnic blood-letting in 40 years in the Western region of Xinjiang to an economic crisis that in one year has destroyed 41 million industrial jobs. Last year there were over 100,000 "mass incidents" which is the official term for street protests, riots and industrial conflicts. The regime has become increasingly dependent on extravaganzas like National Day (1 October) to shore up its support and blunt growing dissatisfaction with an outpouring of nationalism. The 66-minute long military parade, China's first for ten years, will be the centerpiece of the anniversary festivities. "The PLA is waiting for a proper opportunity to show off its power as China has so many territorial disputes with its neighbours, and now is the best chance to do so," commented Anthony Wong Dong of the International Military Association in Macau.

The military parade will involve fewer troops than previously, around 8,000 this time, and more equipment, to underline the force's transition towards hi-tech weaponry. It will show off around 50 new and sophisticated weapons systems never before shown in public including the J-10 jet fighter, and the latest road-mobile inter-continental ballistic missiles with a range of more than 11,000km. Defence Minister, Liang Guanglie was quoted saying the parade would "display the image of a mighty force, a civilised force, a victorious force". All this is a far cry from the "people's army", a guerrilla force in the main, that took power in 1949. Underlining the shift towards a more professional army, land forces will have to move over to make room for naval, air, and strategic missile forces.

The central government has cancelled all provincial celebrations on 1 October, the first time this has happened, again citing security issues. Another reason was to "prevent extravagance and waste" at a time of rising unemployment. The current leaders of the world's most populous country will be extremely relieved if they can stage this 60th anniversary celebration, boasting they are the longest-ruling party in the world, without any upsets or impromptu protests. But one TV spectacular, however well staged, will not alter the fact China's rulers are becoming increasingly hated by large swathes of the population as the economic and political crisis deepens.

[Trystan]

Interesting move by Hu Jintao. Obviously, he doesn't want a return to Maoism or a move towards socialism - was the Mao tunic just a simple "fuck you, we're Commies!" to the America, Japan and the EU etc.? I guess he can get away with it, unlike other dictators.

[Spawn of Stalin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5TugMgXWJs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXsmW_JLcrs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2ALFVZFwOE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oHWBPGKyP0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDGMS01MiQ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ijgIlHn5F0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS0u_aYqXJU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzijDUC3xAM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k3hUXacIfQ

[Radical]

Long live the Communist Party of China!

I am celebrating the 60th Anniversary on Saturday with my Comrades in London.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Interesting move by Hu Jintao. Obviously, he doesn't want a return to Maoism or a move towards socialism - was the Mao tunic just a simple "fuck you, we're Commies!" to the America, Japan and the EU etc.? I guess he can get away with it, unlike other dictators

If so, the message was lost in translation:

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20091001/capt.cc53df9f1b23400a851d30e7d4eda606.empire_state _building_china_nyjd201.jpg?x=400&y=259&q=85&sig=m211Xhxk212j_8zfYjsADw--

The Empire State Building lit up to honor the anniversary.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091001/lf_nm_life/us_china_newyork_empirestate_2

[bailey_187]

Long live the Communist Party of China!

I am celebrating the 60th Anniversary on Saturday with my Comrades in London.

Glad to see you joined the CPGB-ML

Unfortunately i dont think i can attend but for everyone else who wants to celebrate the founding of the PRC:

On Saturday 3 October 2009, from 6pm until late, we will be holding a public meeting in London to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the Chinese Revolution. This will be an excellent opportunity to meet with comrades from the People’s Republic of China, hear some fantastic speakers and celebrate one of the most important, world-changing events in modern history. There will also be delicious food and drink, so bring family and friends and let’s make it a celebration to remember!
Confirmed speakers include:
George Galloway MP
A representative from the Chinese Embasy
Dr. Jenny Clegg, Author of China’s Global Strategy
Jack Shapiro, Veteran friend of China
Harpal Brar, Chair, CPGB-ML; Editor, Lalkar
Keith Bennett, Expert in Asian politics
The meeting will take place at Saklatvala Hall, Dominion Road, Southall, Middlesex UB2 5AA. Trains go every 10 minutes or so from Paddington to Southall and take around 15 minutes. From Southall station, the hall is around 5 minutes’ walk, the route for which you can see in this map.
For more information, please email [email protected] or call Keith on 07973 824742.

http://handsoffchina.org/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=styvcs__9os&feature=player_embedded

[bailey_187]

Did anyone see the bit about China on the BBC last night? What a load of shit.

They interviewed a Business men to ask his perspectives on Mao. Great.

Also, they basically reduced the Mao era to "Mao made people wear Mao suits"

1) What they mean by "Mao suit" is the traditional chinese suit. Do we call our suits Gordan Brown suits because he wears one?
2) Mao did not force people to wear "Mao suits"

Here are pictures showing people wearing a variety of clothing in Mao's China:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/09/04/arts/24772075.JPG
http://www.morningsun.org/multimedia/songs/0590.gif

http://rwor.org/i/150/big-character-poster.jpg - I see some people in "mao suits' but go any city and you will see many in western suits. There is some people with beige trousers, a man with brown trousers, different shades of blue jackets, a man in a brown jacket, a girl in a tshirt with patterns on.
http://rwor.org/i/150/BFdoc2.jpg
http://rwor.org/a/150/gpcr_story-en.html also more pics of people wearing different clothing

Also, check out Bob Avakian's "Immortal Contributions of Mao tse-Tung" and Edgar Snow's "China's long revolution" for more pictures disproving the BBCs lie.

Although not photos, if Mao forced people to wear all grey suits, why would Cultural Revolution art depict otherwise? If totalitarian Mao was forcing everyone to wear his grey suits in his fanatical cultural revolution, surely the art would show this too?
http://dmm.broadchoice.com/custom/_2a2a/content/images/503redwallstreet(1).jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/montages/the_unknown_cultural_revolution.jpg
http://www.wellesley.edu/Polisci/wj/chinapolitics/Images-ChinaLinks1-07/poster.jpg
http://images.tdaxp.com/tdaxp_upload/maos_last_revolution_md.jpg
http://skew.dailyskew.com/uploaded_images/mao-poster-700993.jpg
http://factsanddetails.com/media/2/20080303-cultural%20revolution%209.jpg
http://www.crestock.com/uploads/blog/2009/china-propaganda/1974-Protect-the-grand-achievements.jpg

[Tatarin]

Well, 13 more years and they will become the largest nation led the longest time by a Communist Party in history, if I'm not mistaken.

[red cat]

http://www.chinaworker.info/en/content/news/848/
China's 60th anniversary celebrations not for "the people"
Tuesday, 29 September 2009.
It's ticket-holders only for 60th anniversary celebrations in Beijing

chinaworker.info

It is being billed, inaccurately, as the "largest celebration the country has ever witnessed" (Telegraph, UK). When China's nominally 'communist' regime stages grandiose celebrations of 60 years in power on Thursday, 1 October, it will have gone to extraordinary lengths to keep out "the people" in whose name it claims to rule. "It's the People's Parade, but you'd better stay home to watch it unless you are one of the lucky few with a ticket to the festivities at Tiananmen Square," commented the South China Morning Post in Hong Kong (25 September). Only 180,000 tickets have been issued to hand-picked guests. Ten years ago the crowd was around 500,000, and in the 1989 over a million people participated.

With 74 million party members around China it is not so difficult to pick out 180,000 worthies for the coming ticket-only festivities. Limiting attendance in Beijing's iconic main square is just one way the ruling party wishes to keep airtight control of the anniversary to avoid embarrassing protests. Inhabitants of apartments along the city's main east-west axis, Changan Avenue, have been told they cannot invite guests to their homes for the duration of the anniversary ceremony, or open their windows or go out onto their balconies! The official reason given is the military parade that will feature some of China's most technologically advanced weaponry.

Further references are made to terrorism, with the Uighur Muslims from Xinjiang cited most often as a possible threat. But it is clear the extraordinary security measures - more extensive than during last year's Olympics - are also aimed to avert political protests, such as the unfurling of a banner, or other actions that could spoil the regime's day. Flying objects including kites and homing pigeons have been banned within 200km of Tiananmen Square. Even normally packed shopping precincts in central Beijing are being closed ahead of the anniversary on security grounds. There were reports that Beijing's taxis have been bugged as part of this security sweep, but this was denied by the city's Vice-Mayor Ji Lin. "I do not believe this exists," he told the South China Morning Post.
It was on 1 October, 1949, that Mao Zedong announced the foundation of the People's Republic of China. Speaking to a crowd almost twice the size of those being admitted to this week's anniversary gathering, Mao declared "the Chinese have stood up". The Chinese revolution swept away feudalism and capitalism and introduced major social changes with the all-important lever of a state-owned and planned economy. Mao's regime, based on the peasantry, was forced by mass pressure to go further than his own initial intentions and to introduce a version of Stalin's bureaucratically-degenerated regime in the Soviet Union. This was not socialism, but Stalinism. The door was opened to industrialisation and big advances in literacy, healthcare, and public education, but rather than the masses running society democratically, all decision-making power was concentrated in a vast, privileged, one-party bureaucracy.

Mao's successors have long distanced themselves from Stalinism in the economic sphere and increasingly embraced capitalism. Global capitalist concerns have responded in kind. Pepsi Co are among the big U.S. corporations getting in on the 60th anniversary celebrations in China. They are running TV adverts with youngsters singing into a Pepsi can: "You are always in my heart, China bless you." Not to be upstaged, MacDonald's outlets in China are staging a promotion with meal vouchers bearing the slogans "Powerful China" and "China is on the move". If you opt for a super-size meal at the fast-food chain, you get a free Coca Cola glass with which to "toast China". Who would believe that U.S. imperialism spent six billion dollars in arming Mao's opponent Chiang Kai-shek during the long and bloody civil war and, one year after the 1949 power shift, debated whether to drop a nuclear bomb on China.

The Chinese regime today has been shaken by a range of political and economic setbacks, from the outbreak of the most serious ethnic blood-letting in 40 years in the Western region of Xinjiang to an economic crisis that in one year has destroyed 41 million industrial jobs. Last year there were over 100,000 "mass incidents" which is the official term for street protests, riots and industrial conflicts. The regime has become increasingly dependent on extravaganzas like National Day (1 October) to shore up its support and blunt growing dissatisfaction with an outpouring of nationalism. The 66-minute long military parade, China's first for ten years, will be the centerpiece of the anniversary festivities. "The PLA is waiting for a proper opportunity to show off its power as China has so many territorial disputes with its neighbours, and now is the best chance to do so," commented Anthony Wong Dong of the International Military Association in Macau.

The military parade will involve fewer troops than previously, around 8,000 this time, and more equipment, to underline the force's transition towards hi-tech weaponry. It will show off around 50 new and sophisticated weapons systems never before shown in public including the J-10 jet fighter, and the latest road-mobile inter-continental ballistic missiles with a range of more than 11,000km. Defence Minister, Liang Guanglie was quoted saying the parade would "display the image of a mighty force, a civilised force, a victorious force". All this is a far cry from the "people's army", a guerrilla force in the main, that took power in 1949. Underlining the shift towards a more professional army, land forces will have to move over to make room for naval, air, and strategic missile forces.

The central government has cancelled all provincial celebrations on 1 October, the first time this has happened, again citing security issues. Another reason was to "prevent extravagance and waste" at a time of rising unemployment. The current leaders of the world's most populous country will be extremely relieved if they can stage this 60th anniversary celebration, boasting they are the longest-ruling party in the world, without any upsets or impromptu protests. But one TV spectacular, however well staged, will not alter the fact China's rulers are becoming increasingly hated by large swathes of the population as the economic and political crisis deepens.

In how many ways will Trots try to justify their line? Sometimes they portray Maoists as naturally evil, sometimes they state that Maoists have to follow Stalin against their initial intentions out of mass pressure(hey! so the masses want Stalinism, don't they?), and what not.


Stalin's bureaucratically-degenerated regime in the Soviet Union. This was not socialism, but Stalinism.:lol:

Socialism=Stalinism.

[Q]

Well, 13 more years and they will become the largest nation led the longest time by a Communist Party in history, if I'm not mistaken.
The CCP is as communist as Labour is a workers party: on holidays only. China is capitalist, led by a totalitarian state that is rapidly leaving any pretense of being socialist.


:lol:

Socialism=Stalinism.
:lol:

[Spawn of Stalin]

China is totalitarian? Are you sure about that?

[Q]

China is totalitarian? Are you sure about that?
Why yes. I know, because we have comrades there that give detailed accounts (http://chinaworker.info/) of the totalitarian nature of the Chinese state. Have a read.

[Crux]

In how many ways will Trots try to justify their line? Sometimes they portray Maoists as naturally evil, sometimes they state that Maoists have to follow Stalin against their initial intentions out of mass pressure(hey! so the masses want Stalinism, don't they?), and what not.
The only one talking about maoists being "naturally evil" has been you.
Yes the maoists were forced by the pressure from below to expropriate the capitalists, something which they had not wanted at first, but they did so in a beaurcratic manner, mimicing stalinist russia. What is it you have a problem understanding?

[Spawn of Stalin]

Why yes. I know, because we have comrades there that give detailed accounts (http://chinaworker.info/) of the totalitarian nature of the Chinese state. Have a read.
Don't get me wrong, I will read that, but I don't think a CWI website can be trusted to give me an impartial view of China. I'm not just having a sly dig a Trotskyism here, but if I were to post a link to a Stalin Society article on say, George Orwell, would you even for a minute take it seriously?

[Q]

Don't get me wrong, I will read that, but I don't think a CWI website can be trusted to give me an impartial view of China. I'm not just having a sly dig a Trotskyism here, but if I were to post a link to a Stalin Society article on say, George Orwell, would you even for a minute take it seriously?
What a lovely sectarian comment, so cute :wub:

Of course, the reason why I posted the link is because these Chinese comrades have direct experience with the Chinese state. That's why I deemed it relevant.

[Spawn of Stalin]

No sectarianism here, I promise you that. Like I said, I'm going to look at it, but naturally I am going to take everything I read on there with a pinch of salt.

[proudcomrade]

I dunno; they're trying. They're corrupted as hell; but they're trying, and I give them credit, particularly our Chinese comrades in the factories.

[FloridaCommunist]

Those videos were some of the creepiest I've ever seen.

[bailey_187]

The CCP is as communist as Labour is a workers party: on holidays only. China is capitalist, led by a totalitarian state that is rapidly leaving any pretense of being socialist.


:lol:

The role of the state in the economy has been increasing recently. just saying

[STJ]

hhahahahaha Only socialism will save us.

[Crux]

The role of the state in the economy has been increasing recently. just saying
In the US too. Just saying.