why do half of revleft stalinfolks have anime avatars

[black magick hustla]

*dada on a labcoat*

perhaps theres a mathematical correlation one can create a function of

f(x)= shitty anime

were x is the stalinist factor. why do you folks like anime? is stalin animelike?

[black magick hustla]

*stalin pierces hitler with a katana while whispering some anime techniqye*

[spiltteeth]

http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/spiltteeth/COMCUTE.jpg
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/spiltteeth/COMMIECUTE2.jpg

[black magick hustla]

anime is fuckin uncool tho.

except samurai champloo, that show was nuts

[cb9's_unity]

This is not well known but Stalin in fact invented anime.

[RedRise]

This is not well known but Stalin in fact invented anime.
:confused::confused::confused:

Maybe coz anime is easy to create/find and you can have an image that looks like you but isn't a photo?
btw, I don't look remotely like my avatar:rolleyes:

[khad]

Whom are you talking about? I want names.

[Il Medico]

hugs?

[9]

Go to deviantart if you really want to see some weird shit; they've got Nazi furries.

[JazzRemington]

You're just mad because your petty and godless physics can't explain why anime girls have such large boobs that move contrary to your theorems.

[NecroCommie]

Dragonball Z is awesomeness! The idea behind every episode is that some dude is powering up for überdüber super attack and is shouting furiously. The other dudes go like: "Wow, he is strong!": "That must be the result of years of training, his opponent never has a chance!" And they analyze the power up and at the end of the episode that dude unleashes his mighty move. Afterwards the target of that attack says somethin like: "Impressive, but you cannot match my secrest move that I have trained in the cosmic halls of eternal warrior-likeness!" Everyone then goes like: "WHAT!?!", and the dude starts powering up for the next weeks epiode.

Proof:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhsD1Wp3W-Q

[9]

Dragonball Z is awesomeness! The idea behind every episode is that some dude is powering up for überdüber super attack and is shouting furiously. The other dudes go like: "Wow, he is strong!": "That must be the result of years of training, his opponent never has a chance!" And they analyze the power up and at the end of the episode that dude unleashes his mighty move. Afterwards the target of that attack says somethin like: "Impressive, but you cannot match my secrest move that I have trained in the cosmic halls of eternal warrior-likeness!" Everyone then goes like: "WHAT!?!", and the dude starts powering up for the next weeks epiode.

Proof:DhsD1Wp3W-Q

Thank you for finally providing a concrete explanation for my long-held hatred of anime. I mean, the art is absolute shit, but I always knew there was more to my loathing anime than the shit art and I think you've just done an excellent job articulating it :p

[Rjevan]

Sadly I didn't stumble accross a young Stalin/Koba anime/manga ava but damn, though I'm not that fond of mangas/animes I would love to get one! :D
But well, I already have a Koba drawing in my collection, I guess that's fair enough. ;)

[Tyrlop]

i hope my avatar don't count as anime! becaus its not i hate anime! this is from the original batman animated series!!!!!! i drawed it myself and goddamnit im not a stalinist.

[NecroCommie]

Thank you for finally providing a concrete explanation for my long-held hatred of anime. I mean, the art is absolute shit, but I always knew there was more to my loathing anime than the shit art and I think you've just done an excellent job articulating it :p
What?! Dragonball series are awesome display of old-school anime! Towards the end of the series the characters start to hurl planets at each other and fight across entire universes. They also rise from the dead and can defeat small gods at a whim. :cool:

Z-fighters amongst mortals --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSQFPSsuukI

[9]

http://www.poormojo.org/pmjadaily/archives/Blank-Facepalm.gif

[Olerud]

we're all gay boys you see :)

[The Ungovernable Farce]

At the risk of sounding thick, where does the whole neon/sunglasses avatar thing come from?

[☭World Views]

At the risk of sounding thick, where does the whole neon/sunglasses avatar thing come from?

They might not give you a direct answer.

This is the answer they gave me:


Late one night, as Marx and Bukunin were working at the local Nuclear power plant, Marx dared Bukunin to lick a uranium rod - which he did and got his tongue stuck to it. Marx laughed so hard he accidentally bumped into a barrel of toxic sludge that spilled all over Durrutti who was sleeping off a hangover. Luckily everyone seemed fine.
Later, they met up with Trotsky and Lenin at a communist orgy where various fluids were generously exchanged.
Weeks passed with no ill effects.
Then they all went to Stalin's B-day party, where he hired spider-man as entertainment. When the party was over they found themselves snowed in from a freak massive snow storm...days passed...finally they had to do something...someone had to be eaten. So they decided to eat spiderman - alive - and only later, when they started to glow, realized that the poison from the radioactive spider that bit peter parker had infected them !
Henceforth, since they had no sperm count, they would have no need to rap their rascal.

[Holden Caulfield]

speaking as a former school yard loud mouth / dickhead I can resolutely state that anime is in no way cool.

Only nerds think it is cool, so therefore anybody who tell me I am wrong, or who state anime is cool is, in fact, themselves a nerd.

[Raúl Duke]

Some of the greatest losers/failures in life (in relation to people I know/heard about), both that I've meet and those I've heard about in some website, have some relation to anime and related content.

I have nothing (serious, although I do have some criticisms) against anime in of itself but when people take that shit too seriously then there's a problem.

[NecroCommie]

Only nerds think it is cool, so therefore anybody who tell me I am wrong, or who state anime is cool is, in fact, themselves a nerd.
What I fail to understand is how exactly are nerds supposed to be bad. Some might say that we are all nerds because we know more than necessary about philosophy and politics. If on the other hand you mean "nerd" as in person with some kind of social phobia, then you are not doing a good job at changing that status.

If someone does not prioritize ones life according to your values, it does not make that one inferior. I therefor find it to be in bad taste to use the word "nerd" with a negative connotation. That goes especially if mentioned at an internet forum. 'kazing!'

[Holden Caulfield]

^ Didn't read it.

nerd.

[Olerud]

nerd.

Says the guy who's name is from a shitty little book that only "emos" value.

[ls]

Anime is shit cept for maybe 5 films.

I'm not gonna name them. :ninja:

[Dr Mindbender]

Anime is shit cept for maybe 5 films.

I'm not gonna name them. :ninja:


i bet one of them is Akira.

Everyone loves that movie, even anime-haters.

btw. you're bang wrong, i'd rather watch a manga movie than any of that american shite.

[black magick hustla]

samurai champloo is nuts though. it has this pseudo urban hip "samurai" fights choreographed with sort of hip music. and one of the guy
uses breakdancing techniques and shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z26szdLN1Qo

[Holden Caulfield]

Says the guy who's name is from a shitty little book that only "emos" value.

I'm slightly too old to be an emo for one thing, Its a crazy kids thing for me. I'm chavtastic if anything.

Nerd.

[Olerud]

I'm chavtastic if anything.

Typical trot :rolleyes:

[Holden Caulfield]

Typical trot :rolleyes:

Typical Nerd :rolleyes:

[Olerud]

Typical Nerd :rolleyes:

:( I was a wee ned (chav) back in the day starting fires, being racist and heckling old people.

http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/pictures/nedgal165.jpg

Stay rad... dirty trot :)

[Dimentio]

I hate anime.

I don't know why I am doing it. I am just hating it. And I have always hated it. Had a neighbour who had a sixteen year old girlfriend when I was little. They used to be over at my parents and they had lots of anime movies. I never liked them (the anime movies so to say). Neither did I like those shitty anime cartoons on TV 3, like the shameless rip-offs of Disney blockbusters.

The only place where I could accept anime is in videogames.

I appreciate Diney's old animation style, present in such movies as "The Sword in the Stone", "The Jungle Book", "The Black Cauldron" and "Aristocats".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_oVAqz29Yw

[Dimentio]

I believe that one reason why so many anti-revisionists/stalinists/stalin-kiddies seem to appreciate anime so much, is probably because most people of that category here on revleft are very young people.

[Nwoye]

i'm very much enjoying watching Holden's trolling techniques.

[Il Medico]

speaking as a former school yard loud mouth / dickhead I can resolutely state that anime is in no way cool.

Only nerds think it is cool, so therefore anybody who tell me I am wrong, or who state anime is cool is, in fact, themselves a nerd.
So says the guy who spends a large amount of his/her time on an internet forum.

[khad]

Now which Stalinist has an anime avatar? I haven't seen one.

[Holden Caulfield]

So says the guy who spends a large amount of his/her time on an internet forum.

Says the nerd who spends a nerd amount of nerd on an internet nerd.

[Prairie Fire]

I also am wondering who Dada is talking about.

If anything, he has slow reaction time. I haven't had an anime avatar for months, neither has Lenin II... Hugs and Marxism may be the only one, but he is really into anime.

One persyn is hardly a precedent.

Also, this seems to me to have the motive of equating so called "Stalinists" with immaturity and juvenile pursuits.

[Il Medico]

Says the nerd who spends a nerd amount of nerd on an internet nerd.
So says the nerd who is so insecure about being a nerd that he lashes out at people accusing them of being nerds over the internet; under the persona of Holden Caulfield, nerd.

[Il Medico]

I also am wondering who Dada is talking about.

If anything, he has slow reaction time. I haven't had an anime avatar for months, neither has Lenin II... Hugs and Marxism may be the only one, but he is really into anime.

One persyn is hardly a precedent.

Also, this seems to me to have the motive of equating so called "Stalinists" with immaturity and juvenile pursuits.
This guy had one until like yesterday.
Olerud (http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=25777) http://www.revleft.com/vb/revleft/statusicon/user_online.gif
Marxist-Leninist

And where the bloody hell has Hugs been anyways?

[Holden Caulfield]

So says the nerd who is so insecure about being a nerd that he lashes out at people accusing them of being nerds over the internet; under the persona of Holden Caulfield, nerd.


So nerds the nerd who is so nerd about being a nerd that he nerds out at people accusing them of being nerds over the internet; under the persona of nerd, Holden Caulfield.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

None of you have ever touched a member of the gender your attracted to.

[Olerud]

So nerds the nerd who is so nerd about being a nerd that he nerds out at people accusing them of being nerds over the internet; under the persona of nerd, Holden Caulfield.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8607/yodawgc.jpg

More or less. :rolleyes:

[Bright Banana Beard]

hahaha. Anarchists also got some anime avatar, look at Ramna42!

[Il Medico]

So nerds the nerd who is so nerd about being a nerd that he nerds out at people accusing them of being nerds over the internet; under the persona of nerd, Holden Caulfield.
So nerdy nerd nerd, nerdy nerd that nerd the nerd because he was nerd.


The Doctor (is cooler than you, nerd!)

[Dimentio]

Funny that PF takes this thread seriously.

Chit-chat. Serious bizniz.

[spiltteeth]

What r u talking about?

http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/spiltteeth/Rainbow_Stalin_by_JettDX.png

[JazzRemington]

I have a feeling someone somewhere is going to use this thread to equate leftists with anime nerds.


None of you have ever touched a member of the gender your attracted to.

I have!

[9]

What r u talking about?

http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/spiltteeth/Rainbow_Stalin_by_JettDX.png

This warrants a fifth of vodka and a very hard twenty-hour sleep.:sleep:
What more incentive does one need not to be a Stalinist?

[LOLseph Stalin]

What r u talking about?

http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/spiltteeth/Rainbow_Stalin_by_JettDX.png

Haha. I think I have found my new avatar once the Neon trend dies down. :lol:

[9]

Haha. I think I have found my new avatar once the Neon trend dies down. :lol:

Please no.

[Redmau5]

The Doctor (is cooler than you, nerd!)

Doctor Who is possibly the most uncool thing there has ever been in the entire history of everything.

[Искра]

Please no.
agree...

[Il Medico]

Doctor Who is possibly the most uncool thing there has ever been in the entire history of everything.
You sir are the most delusional poster on revleft.

[Holden Caulfield]

You sir are the most delusional poster on revleft.

You nerd are the most nerd poster on nerdleft

[spiltteeth]

None of you have ever touched a member of the gender your attracted to.

I have! She was sleeping....but it still counts! I even still have some of her hair I cut off that I wear around my neck in a locket.

[Il Medico]

You nerd are the most nerd poster on nerdleft
Ah, I see you wish to continue nerd the nerdnet with nerdish nerding. You nerd are a nerdy nerd who nerds other people's post with your nerd.

[hugsandmarxism]

http://www.hongfire.com/cg/data/14/1242350476751.gif

[Glenn Beck]

ANIME?!?!?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP5lz2CYNR4

I LOVE JAPAN, PERIOD

[FreeFocus]

Anime is just entertainment, I like the depth some of them provide (Death Note, Code Geass S1, Neon Genesis Evangelion, etc). I really dislike the weird animes though, like the fetish-types and the teenage girl animes (please don't hop on me for "sexism" or "playing into gender roles," get a grip, some animes cater primarily to teenage girls, it's a fact). There's just no depth to them at all. Plus they're boring. And repetitive. :closedeyes:

I also think dada is exaggerating too much, I don't see that many anime avatars while I'm browsing, I see mostly political avatars.

[black magick hustla]

its not necessarily anime, but theres a strong INTERNETZ attitude from a lot ofstalinists lol. scarletghoul is another good example. scarletghoul is so 4chan man

[spiltteeth]

its not necessarily anime, but theres a strong INTERNETZ attitude from a lot ofstalinists lol. scarletghoul is another good example. scarletghoul is so 4chan man

What is 4chan? This is the 3rd time I've heard someone mention it.

[NecroCommie]

http://www.hongfire.com/cg/data/14/1242350476751.gif
Upon such complete madness I find myself defensless. That is sooooo anime.

[Искра]

HENTAI :blushing:
LOLICON :wub:

[Tjis]

People it's obvious. It's a simple tankie mindset.
I mean, what's more awesome. Invading Hungary with this:
http://anindita.blog.ugm.ac.id/files/2009/09/hucks-army-t34-soviet-tank-798371.jpg

or THIS
http://www.chucksanimeshrine.com/animeblog/uploaded_images/gundam-710179.jpg

Notice how there's no question mark in the previous sentence cause the answer should be obvious.

[Raúl Duke]

What is 4chan? This is the 3rd time I've heard someone mention it.

4chan is like a sort of imageboard/forum...
It has some relevance to the whole "internet pop culture" many memes and such originate from that place.

[Raúl Duke]

ANIME?!?!?!

XP5lz2CYNR4

I LOVE JAPAN, PERIOD

I'm of the opinion that the Japanese thinks all the anime-loving wannabe japanese westerners are lame, ridiculous, and perhaps even offensive.

Millions of years of Japanese culture...and all these people really care about is anime. Plus they tend to have many illusions of how Japan/Japanese is/are like.

[NecroCommie]

Clearly you have not met any true Japaniacs... But yes, I have thought of that too. Then again I just watch a series or two, so I don't really qualify as an anime "freak".

[Raúl Duke]

Clearly you have not met any true Japaniacs... But yes, I have thought of that too. Then again I just watch a series or two, so I don't really qualify as an anime "freak".

If my Japaniacs you mean anime freaks yes I've meet many even my sisters were anime freaks for a while.

If you mean Japanophiles...then no not exactly except perhaps myself :ninja:

[Nwoye]

What is 4chan? This is the 3rd time I've heard someone mention it.
just go to 4chan dot org. and then go to the random board. and then gouge your eyes out.

[Dimentio]

http://www.haus53.com/images/hitler2.jpg

Seems that Stalin-kiddies are not the only ones who like anime ^^

[hugsandmarxism]

http://www.hongfire.com/cg/data/14/6b60e0458c519d90cc470c0adb0cce7f7365a71b.gif

[Andrei Kuznetsov]

Are you counting us Maoists in this? I mean, considering we uphold Stalin and the more sectarian people here like to label us as a form of Stalinism...

I'm a shameless anime fan and always will be. Suck it. I've seen around 150 series and movies (and those are just the ones I've seen in their entirety), read about 100 different manga titles, and lost my virginity at an anime convention. It's fucking awesome and you know it.

...however, this thread does bring something to mind: I've noticed a lot of "Stalinists" seem to be young guys who are social outcasts- much like a great percentage of the fandom- and seem to gravitate toward a macho "tough-guy" image of Marxism-Leninism. Internet tough guys. Thoughts about that?

[Искра]

Are you counting us Maoists in this? I mean, considering we uphold Stalin and the more sectarian people here like to label us as a form of Stalinism...

I'm a shameless anime fan and always will be. Suck it. I've seen around 150 series and movies (and those are just the ones I've seen in their entirety), read about 100 different manga titles, and lost my virginity at an anime convention. It's fucking awesome and you know it.

...however, this thread does bring something to mind: I've noticed a lot of "Stalinists" seem to be young guys who are social outcasts- much like a great percentage of the fandom- and seem to gravitate toward a macho "tough-guy" image of Marxism-Leninism. Internet tough guys. Thoughts about that?

Brats?

[Nwoye]

I'm a shameless anime fan and always will be. Suck it. I've seen around 150 series and movies (and those are just the ones I've seen in their entirety), read about 100 different manga titles, and lost my virginity at an anime convention. It's fucking awesome and you know it.
yo what.

[Andrei Kuznetsov]

Yeah, you read that right. It was LOVE. NERD. LOVE.

[Plagueround]

I have! She was sleeping....but it still counts! I even still have some of her hair I cut off that I wear around my neck in a locket.

Comrades, if you are ever in need of an example of things that are not ok to say on this forum, look on this post here. This is a verbal warning to you, spiltteeth.

[spiltteeth]

Comrades, if you are ever in need of an example of things that are not ok to say on this forum, look on this post here. This is a verbal warning to you, spiltteeth.

Sorry, just to make clear though, I was in no way joking about or intending to say that I had any sexual relations with someone who was sleeping, I myself am a sexual abuse victim, I ment it as a joke that that I literally just 'touched' a sleeping girl to steel a locket of her hair, but upon reflection the fact that it could be misconstrued -if that's what you thought- I will certainly be more mindful.

I really hope no one took that the wrong way. If anyone was offended I truly apologize.

[Raúl Duke]

If Lenin and Stalin (Maybe Mao...no..Mao most definitely. Anime being Japanese cultural imperialism) saw that their legacy was upheld by a bunch of animaniacs they would be ashamed!

[Olerud]

I didn't loose my virginity at a manga convention (nor would I go to one I doubt I would be interested enough) so I guess I'm not a MASSIVE nerd... well anyway at least I'm not a weebo. :(

[Olerud]

I really hope no one took that the wrong way. If anyone was offended I truly apologize.
Only a tard would think you were being honest...

[black magick hustla]

weebos fcking suck

[Glenn Beck]

I think a more pertinent question is why trotskyists are all furries. Just look at Sam_b's avatar

[hugsandmarxism]

http://www.hongfire.com/cg/data/14/viploader2d574465.gif

[Andrei Kuznetsov]

http://www.hongfire.com/cg/data/14/viploader2d574465.gif


yui-chaaaan~ ^___^

[Il Medico]

I think the presence of Both Andrei and Hugs in this thread is going to rip a hole in the fabric of space-time, or something.

[black magick hustla]

if uncle joe was reading this thread he would pop xanax with some vodka

[black magick hustla]

jesus hugs your profile is so fuckin surreal. a bunch of stalinist agitprop superimposed on lame as hell anime. you have the biggest murderer of communist superimposed in cute girl gifs. who would have thought

[ZeroNowhere]

Anime is just entertainment, I like the depth some of them provide [...] Neon Genesis Evangelion
:laugh:


Comrades, if you are ever in need of an example of things that are not ok to say on this forum, look on this post here. This is a verbal warning to you, spiltteeth.Was this also a joke?

[The Red Next Door]

speaking as a former school yard loud mouth / dickhead I can resolutely state that anime is in no way cool.

Only nerds think it is cool, so therefore anybody who tell me I am wrong, or who state anime is cool is, in fact, themselves a nerd.
Well guess what. I am a BIG ANIME MY FAN. the correct term would be geek because i am not a nerd. i don't do my school work

[The Red Next Door]

sometimes

[The Red Next Door]

I am a fan of Anime and i love it. some anime is good and some is bad. Not all anime look the same because they all have different styles.

[Andrei Kuznetsov]

if uncle joe was reading this thread he would pop xanax with some vodka

Well maybe Uncle Joe would need to just chill the fuck ouuuut. :D

OH BY THE WAY DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?!!!

Def Leppard Time!!!

gRZumd8uFZI

[Jazzratt]

Andrei: While your taste in not watching fucking anime leaves something to be desired let no one knock your taste in fucking awesome cheese-metal.

[gorillafuck]

and lost my virginity at an anime convention.
Were you both dressed up as anime characters?

[hugsandmarxism]

jesus hugs your profile is so fuckin surreal. a bunch of stalinist agitprop superimposed on lame as hell anime. you have the biggest murderer of communist superimposed in cute girl gifs. who would have thought

http://www.hongfire.com/cg/data/14/1248533974626.gif

[Andrei Kuznetsov]

Andrei: While your taste in not watching fucking anime leaves something to be desired let no one knock your taste in fucking awesome cheese-metal.


Dude, Def Leppard fucking rules. No one can deny that it's the best cheese metal ever.


Were you both dressed up as anime characters?

No, not that time, but I once got a blowjob from a catgirl while dressed as Kaji from Neon Genesis Evangelion at AWA 13. Shit was sooooo cash.

[Jazzratt]

Dude, Def Leppard fucking rules. No one can deny that it's the best cheese metal ever.



No, not that time, but I once got a blowjob from a catgirl while dressed as Kaji from Neon Genesis Evangelion at AWA 13. Shit was sooooo cash.

It's like your posts are a yin and yang of awesome and suck (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IncrediblyLamePun).

[Andrei Kuznetsov]

Perhaps this will atone for my lame dorkishness (please turn this all the way up, cuz shit is soooo cash):

8fU3izKFnyo

http://sp6.fotolog.com/photo/38/6/77/sir_sefirot/1215654304270_f.jpg

[dez]

speaking as a former school yard loud mouth / dickhead I can resolutely state that anime is in no way cool.

Only nerds think it is cool, so therefore anybody who tell me I am wrong, or who state anime is cool is, in fact, themselves a nerd.

Nerds do things like browser boards on websites, you know...

I can't really decide if you have a need to pose / prove something to people or if you are really that ignorant.
/rant


I believe that one reason why so many anti-revisionists/stalinists/stalin-kiddies seem to appreciate anime so much, is probably because most people of that category here on revleft are very young people.

Would you believe if I said the anti-revisionists/stalinists I talked with about this website were more concerned with being in touch with the rest of the working class than debating things like "is anime cool"?

[Olerud]

can't believe this topics still going.

[Искра]

I don't care much about anime thing, but I'll like to know are there any "Stalinist" over 20 years here, or is this just a phase for 14 years olds?

[NecroCommie]

Hmph! When the age and maturity is questioned, it is a waterproof sign that every other argument against that group has failed. As to the question above, I guess I classify as a stalinist in certain circles as I do not condemn him or all of his actions. And I am 20 years old.

[Искра]

Nice, and you have Sandro on avatar :)

[Andrei Kuznetsov]

I don't care much about anime thing, but I'll like to know are there any "Stalinist" over 20 years here, or is this just a phase for 14 years olds?

Outside of actually-committed Maoists (and Hoxhaists), I think most "Stalinism" online is a bunch of 14 year-old boys trying to be internet tough-guys who revere a cartoonish, militaristic vision of the USSR. Who cares about the emancipation of the working class when you have "glory", goosestepping, and gulags?!

Case in point: recently a young guy online sought me out after meeting me on... well... an anime forum that I go to. He saw that I was involved in the Kasama Project and started speaking about how much of a committed Marxist-Leninist he was, how he believed in workers' rule, etc. However, upon actually getting him interacting with actual Marxists, researching the Maoist revolutions in Nepal, India, the Philippines, and Peru, and discussing how to connect to mass struggles and the real world at large, he immediately began to have second-thoughts about being a Communist, since he found out that actual Communism is nothing like his Red Army fetish fantasy.

[Bright Banana Beard]

Case in point: recently a young guy online sought me out after meeting me on... well... an anime forum that I go to. He saw that I was involved in the Kasama Project and started speaking about how much of a committed Marxist-Leninist he was, how he believed in workers' rule, etc. However, upon actually getting him interacting with actual Marxists, researching the Maoist revolutions in Nepal, India, the Philippines, and Peru, and discussing how to connect to mass struggles and the real world at large, he immediately began to have second-thoughts about being a Communist, since he found out that actual Communism is nothing like his Red Army fetish fantasy.

Just wow, haha this dude need to be purged. *handclap*

[Andrei Kuznetsov]

Yeah, I have a feeling he won't be speaking to me for a while... he also was horrified of the fact that I was bisexual and that most Communist and revolutionary movements fight for the emancipation and freedom of GLBT-Q folks. He also didn't understand why revolutionary movements today were using such "loud, angry things" like punk rock, hip-hop, and oi! to communicate our message to youth today. According to him, only Soviet marching music is the proper method of distilling revolutionary politics into the youth of today :rolleyes:

The problem is this: the anime subculture takes in young people that are marginalized by society, and often they are socially awkward. While entrenching themselves in this fantasy world (which I admittedly enjoy, but keep as a hobby), they seek other forms of alternative thought, and thus come across Communism via military fiction (anime like Black Lagoon, Full Metal Panic, First Squad, Hetalia, etc.), and thus are introduced to the old-style militarism of Soviet revisionism.

Funny story: when I was a supporter of the RCP USA, I sold the Revolutionary Worker at an anime convention, just to see what would happen. Oddly enough, the people cosplaying as Soviet/Russian characters or in Che/CCCP t-shirts were the least likely to want to take one... In the end, I sold about 1/2 of the bundle I brought with me, but only to those you would least suspect. And I was dressed as Hikaru from Magic Knights Rayearth.

Life is funny like that.

[Saorsa]

Tesla coils

[khad]

He also didn't understand why revolutionary movements today were using such "loud, angry things" like punk rock, hip-hop, and oi! to communicate our message to youth today. According to him, only Soviet marching music is the proper method of distilling revolutionary politics into the youth of today
I think that's largely a condition of youth. As I have grown older I find myself moving back towards preferring classical and jazz, and I view most forms of popular music as the commodified byproducts of capitalist alienation. I don't even find political punk or hip hop all that enlightening, so I hardly see a point in spending more time on them.

In my experience, anime is almost always reactionary and otaku are invariably commodity worshipping consumerists.

[dez]

Yeah, I have a feeling he won't be speaking to me for a while... he also was horrified of the fact that I was bisexual and that most Communist and revolutionary movements fight for the emancipation and freedom of GLBT-Q folks. He also didn't understand why revolutionary movements today were using such "loud, angry things" like punk rock, hip-hop, and oi! to communicate our message to youth today. According to him, only Soviet marching music is the proper method of distilling revolutionary politics into the youth of today :rolleyes:

The problem is this: the anime subculture takes in young people that are marginalized by society, and often they are socially awkward. While entrenching themselves in this fantasy world (which I admittedly enjoy, but keep as a hobby), they seek other forms of alternative thought, and thus come across Communism via military fiction (anime like Black Lagoon, Full Metal Panic, First Squad, Hetalia, etc.), and thus are introduced to the old-style militarism of Soviet revisionism.

Funny story: when I was a supporter of the RCP USA, I sold the Revolutionary Worker at an anime convention, just to see what would happen. Oddly enough, the people cosplaying as Soviet/Russian characters or in Che/CCCP t-shirts were the least likely to want to take one... In the end, I sold about 1/2 of the bundle I brought with me, but only to those you would least suspect. And I was dressed as Hikaru from Magic Knights Rayearth.

Life is funny like that.

Im pretty sure the "revolution" in peru (if you are talking about sendero) is based on entrenched militarism.
They may not use soviet uniforms, but the process is the same.

[Andrei Kuznetsov]

I think that's largely a condition of youth. As I have grown older I find myself moving back towards preferring classical and jazz, and I view most forms of popular music as the commodified byproducts of capitalist alienation. I don't even find political punk or hip hop all that enlightening, so I hardly see a point in spending more time on them.

Actually, I agree with you. Political punk bores me to tears, and deeply dread going to do mass work at political punk concerts. Maybe it's because I'm a pretentious gawth-kid, but we daaaaark aristocrats of zee niiiiiight have no use for such puerile antics *swishes wine glass, sighs melodramatically*

But still... military marching music? C'mon.


Im pretty sure the "revolution" in peru (if you are talking about sendero) is based on entrenched militarism.
They may not use soviet uniforms, but the process is the same. I agree partially, and I think this was one of the main shortcomings of the PCP at their height, and it lead to serious excesses and errors. However, I would put them on a much higher level than the Brezhnevite, goosestepping, nuke-flaunting military brass that this kid seems to worship so fervently... >_>;;

[NecroCommie]

But still... military marching music? C'mon.
I kinda know where he comes from, although I would not suggest anything that absolute. In our annual mayday march we have left-wingers of all colours and creeds marching, and what do the left youth choose to play? Reggae! Motherfucking reggae! :confused:

Not that I would have anything against reggae or people who listen to reggae, but that was the march of the unified left, and these douchebacks immediately make over 50% of the participants feel like they were outsiders. Hell! It's not like I would suggest that we only play black metal during demos! Truth is, traditional songs of the workers movement are most neutral in the sence of modern subcultures, whether they are musically artistic or not. It's not even me that much, but the older comrades right behind me were really looking into the traditional common songs.

Well, in the end the best choice would be not to make any strong musical statements at all, and keep politics strictly political. And outside left-gatherings I really could not care less what you listen or play publicly.

[khad]

Actually, I agree with you. Political punk bores me to tears, and deeply dread going to do mass work at political punk concerts. Maybe it's because I'm a pretentious gawth-kid, but we daaaaark aristocrats of zee niiiiiight have no use for such puerile antics *swishes wine glass, sighs melodramatically*

But still... military marching music? C'mon.
There are plenty of good military songs that aren't marches. This one had its roots in an old miner's tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da1e9Sz8I8k


Truth is, traditional songs of the workers movement are most neutral in the sence of modern subcultures, whether they are musically artistic or not.
I agree.

[NecroCommie]

Yeah, and there are alot of workers songs that have nothing to do with military, or even marxist theories for that matter.

[Durruti's Ghost]

There is only one song that is appropriate for a May Day march.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_ZRygNpKwo&feature=player_embedded

[dez]

I agree partially, and I think this was one of the main shortcomings of the PCP at their height, and it lead to serious excesses and errors. However, I would put them on a much higher level than the Brezhnevite, goosestepping, nuke-flaunting military brass that this kid seems to worship so fervently... >_>;;


One looks cool in games like red alert and the other doesn't.
I mean, that's what revolutions are about, blasting the other guy's base with your elite squad, right?

:lol:




I kinda know where he comes from, although I would not suggest anything that absolute. In our annual mayday march we have left-wingers of all colours and creeds marching, and what do the left youth choose to play? Reggae! Motherfucking reggae! :confused:

Not that I would have anything against reggae or people who listen to reggae, but that was the march of the unified left, and these douchebacks immediately make over 50% of the participants feel like they were outsiders. Hell! It's not like I would suggest that we only play black metal during demos! Truth is, traditional songs of the workers movement are most neutral in the sence of modern subcultures, whether they are musically artistic or not. It's not even me that much, but the older comrades right behind me were really looking into the traditional common songs.

Well, in the end the best choice would be not to make any strong musical statements at all, and keep politics strictly political. And outside left-gatherings I really could not care less what you listen or play publicly.

As long as its a type of music that is collectively agreed (say, more than 75% of the people would tag along), I see no problem with it. I actually think its a good way of making a demo lively.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uCC-venMtU

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[Guerrilla22]

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[gorillafuck]

I agree about political punk being often really boring and bad.

I love non-political punk though.

[Panda Tse Tung]

Commandantes anyone?

[MaoTseHelen]

There's some good political punk/rap still being made, but it's mostly unintentional. The best stuff I've found is stuff from artists who just have politics on mind, and aren't trying to force it. Stuff like Pennywise is pretty terrible.