acting 'anarchistic'?

[mannetje]

I do a lot of actions,like streaking and other things to mess with conservative or rightwing people. I sabotaged a few things in my life under the influence of "fightclub". when I still was easy influenced when I was younger. People call me an anarchist cause of that.

Are my 'anarchist'actions like a gateway for me to becoming a anarchist.
I don't much about many tendecies.
I read about anarchism (the basics) But there was nothing said about 'anarchist' actions in the present society's.:confused:

This can be awarded as the dumbest question of 2009.:p

[Lymos]

Anarchy has very little limit for what you can't do so that's why you got accused.

There's no gateway for anarchy though unless you equate anarchy with vandalism and terrorism.

[mannetje]

Anarchy has very little limit for what you can't do so that's why you got accused.

There's no gateway for anarchy though unless you equate anarchy with vandalism and terrorism. my actions are a way to resist the opressors. I'm not vandalizing the 'normal'people who just live their common lives.
But I have no problems with spraypainting 'pigs' on copcars.
But I'm not walking around with bombs or something. I'm not a killer.

[Spawn of Stalin]

When people say you are an anarchist, it's likely that they just mean you are not afraid to push the boat out and raise Hell once in a while. None of the anarchists I know have done any streaking that I am aware of, and if they did, I don't think it would in any way add to their reputations as anarchists. I would hesitate to take comments like that at face value, it is likely that they don't mean anything politically. Anarchism is a workers' movement, not an experiment in exhibitionism.

[Lymos]

my actions are a way to resist the opressors. I'm not vandalizing the 'normal'people who just live their common lives.
But I have no problems with spraypainting 'pigs' on copcars.
But I'm not walking around with bombs or something. I'm not a killer.

Red Son explained it better than I did. When I said those words, they weren't meant to accuse you of being a terrorist or a vandal.

[mannetje]

When people say you are an anarchist, it's likely that they just mean you are not afraid to push the boat out and raise Hell once in a while. None of the anarchists I know have done any streaking that I am aware of, and if they did, I don't think it would in any way add to their reputations as anarchists. I would hesitate to take comments like that at face value, it is likely that they don't mean anything politically. Anarchism is a workers' movement, not an experiment in exhibitionism.

So I'm totally incorrect? I'm just pushing the boat?
I should have done more research on it.
Than I wouldn't had to post this unusefull thread!
my appologies for that.:crying:

[Spawn of Stalin]

You may well be an anarchist but streaking and vandalising police cars will not affect that in any way, they are completely separate issues.

[The Ungovernable Farce]

Top tip: whether you're an anarchist or not, it's not a good idea to boast about illegal activity on a publicly-accessible internet forum.

[ls]

This thread should probably be deleted (not trashed).

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Anarchism isnt do whatever you like for the hell of it. Look into the CNT union in spain and the Back army in the Ukrain for exampes.

[mannetje]

Top tip: whether you're an anarchist or not, it's not a good idea to boast about illegal activity on a publicly-accessible internet forum. I know it isn't a good idea to boast out illegal activity, But in my case it doesn't matter anymore. I'm already caught for streaking. And my 'illegal' activities as in spraying 'pigs' on copcars are not making me a 'threat' to society. And even if they can prove that I said that I did it. it's impossible to find out were and when.
And I've already been questioned about graffiti before. as long if they don't know my tag-name they can't do shit.
And I don't use my realname on anything in my computer.

As long if I don't talk about blowing up the shit or announcing to use violence against people, I don't have to worry about the authorities.
The Netherlands is not like the US with all their 'secret agency's'.
And the authorities do are very paranoid here since 9/11. every country is I assume. But is not herassing a simple dude like me.
During 9/11 a lot of Moroccan young people went in to the streets and started openly to celebrate the attacks. And I can't remember that our government started to put them on a 'dangerlist'.
And if they do prove my 'illegal'activities. I can expect only getting a fine.
And what I do is worth enough for me to risk any fines.
I'll gladly pay to do my activities. Just like people who pay for prostitutes.

:)

[Black Sheep]

Your actions and views strengthen the stereotype of the 'anarchist', who is a violent rebellious teen punk that gets into trouble and breaks stuff, at the expense of class-struggle serious anarchism and at the expense of the revolutionary left in general.

Grow up, read and think before you act.
I recommend Bookchin's "Lifestyle or Social Anarchism"


For fuck's sake...:mad:

[mannetje]

[QUOTE=bulk sheep;1553147]Your actions and views strengthen the stereotype of the 'anarchist', who is a violent rebellious teen punk that gets into trouble and breaks stuff, at the expense of class-struggle serious anarchism and at the expense of the revolutionary left in general.

Grow up, read and think before you act.
I recommend Bookchin's "Lifestyle or Social Anarchism"


I didn't called my actions anarchistic myself. that was some other peoples opinion. Call it what you want.
I don't care.
But anyway thanks for recommending the book.

[bcbm]

I know it isn't a good idea to boast out illegal activity, But in my case it doesn't matter anymore. I'm already caught for streaking. And my 'illegal' activities as in spraying 'pigs' on copcars are not making me a 'threat' to society. And even if they can prove that I said that I did it. it's impossible to find out were and when.


Boasting is never a good idea. You might not care but it sends a bad message to others in the forms of creating a lax security culture. Given that we're revolutionaries seeking to remove the current ruling class from power, having tight security culture is pretty important. But this goes beyond you anyway. Boasting about illegal activities here draws negative attention to the site in the form of police harassment, etc. Already we've lost a member because the police connected them to this site.

This thread should be deleted and you should read up on some security culture. This (http://security.resist.ca/) might be a good place to start.

[mannetje]

Boasting is never a good idea. You might not care but it sends a bad message to others in the forms of creating a lax security culture. Given that we're revolutionaries seeking to remove the current ruling class from power, having tight security culture is pretty important. But this goes beyond you anyway. Boasting about illegal activities here draws negative attention to the site in the form of police harassment, etc. Already we've lost a member because the police connected them to this site.

This thread should be deleted and you should read up on some security culture. This (http://security.resist.ca/) might be a good place to start. I didn't even considered that. I'm sorry about it. PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD.

[Искра]

I didn't called my actions anarchistic myself. that was some other peoples opinion. Call it what you want.
I don't care.
But anyway thanks for recommending the book.
Well I don't care how doid you call it, but you should think more about what other people think... Anarchists are trying to brake that picture of "violente teen punk" for ages... Because, our movement has nothing to do with that. Look at Serbia for example. Some one trow molotov on ambasy and who's in jail? ASI (anarchist union from Serbia) members... why? because they are only anarhcists government knows. People should be more responsible... that's why insurectionists must die.

[mannetje]

Well I don't care how doid you call it, but you should think more about what other people think... Anarchists are trying to brake that picture of "violente teen punk" for ages... Because, our movement has nothing to do with that. Look at Serbia for example. Some one trow molotov on ambasy and who's in jail? ASI (anarchist union from Serbia) members... why? because they are only anarhcists government knows. People should be more responsible... that's why insurectionists must die. I understand that. My apoligies.

[Outinleftfield]

Challenging traditional bourgeois norms and values is important to breaking down the ideological state apparatus.

But it's not "Anarchy". Anarchy means "no rulers". No hierarchy. No masters and slaves. No state. No capitalist bosses. People run things themselves. To be an anarchist you have to support that.

[rebelmouse]

jurko, I am not agreed with you.
mannetje: just do what you feel you should do. don't care for opinions of others. but yes, you should read books and understand better things, although you are not obligated to adapt yourself in peaceful propaganda of part of movement. there are different people, with different characters, so, noone can make monopol on "what is true anarchist action". there is spectum of actions which can be anarchist ones. the only things is common for all of us: we are against killing of civilians. I am personally NOT against killing of authorities and I don't care for security culture because I am already followed by spies everywhere and I don't care. for you is important to understand also that pacifying of whole leftist movement is also job of secret agency and they do it already 30 years (from the time of RAF, 2.Juni, Angry brigades, Red Brigades, etc). only diversity is normal, all the rest is hegemony, control, etc. therefore, I recommend to you: read books, make actions and listen your needs. with other people you can cooperate in harmony with your common/together needs which can be different than your individual needs. that is individual and collective freedom.

[The Idler]

I do a lot of actions,like streaking and other things to mess with conservative or rightwing people. I sabotaged a few things in my life under the influence of "fightclub". when I still was easy influenced when I was younger. People call me an anarchist cause of that.

Are my 'anarchist'actions like a gateway for me to becoming a anarchist.
I don't much about many tendecies.
I read about anarchism (the basics) But there was nothing said about 'anarchist' actions in the present society's.:confused:

This can be awarded as the dumbest question of 2009.:p
Anarchic: Yes
Anarchist: No
Potential Anarchist: Perhaps

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Anarchism has long been associated with this sort of 'don't give a fuck' attitude. It tarnishes our movement. Anarchism stands for order, freedom and equality.