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AK
22nd September 2009, 02:57
Alot of people my age when someone choose say, white, over black for something's color, idk, anything, the other person immediately assumes they are racist for choosing white over black. I was thinking, wouldn't someone who can attribute certain colors to races and then call the other person a racist, be a racist themselves?

Manifesto
22nd September 2009, 03:44
Could you be a little more specific on what you are talking about?

AK
22nd September 2009, 06:22
If someone picked white over black for a color for something, and a bystander calls them a racist. Wouldn't that mean the accuser is more racist because if they think choosing white over black has some sort of racial meaning, even if the accused didn't mean to make it seem like that. What I'm saying is the REAL racist person can turn an everyday occurence into some big question of racism and identify problems with choosing colors.

EDIT: Ok, I'm gonna simplify this: Would pointing out problems in choosing one color over another based on race, accusing the other person of being racist, make you the real racist, seeing as though you can identify a "problem" with it?

eyedrop
22nd September 2009, 10:05
So if someone likes white bedsheets instead of black they are a racist?

That's just silly and is only said by someone who doesn't know real racism.

Isn't it more of a strawman put up by racists against political correctness?

AK
22nd September 2009, 10:11
No im saying someone who says that person is racist, is the real racist, because they can find fault and "racism" in the person who chose the bedsheet's color preference when there was no intentional racist element involved.

Pogue
22nd September 2009, 13:17
No im saying someone who says that person is racist, is the real racist, because they can find fault and "racism" in the person who chose the bedsheet's color preference when there was no intentional racist element involved.

This is so trivial is it really worth discussion?

AK
22nd September 2009, 13:39
It shows how the general population today takes racism and discrimination as such an everyday thing. It has a bit of theory in it, too. But fine, go ahead and give up on me :crying:

eyedrop
22nd September 2009, 13:54
No im saying someone who says that person is racist, is the real racist, because they can find fault and "racism" in the person who chose the bedsheet's color preference when there was no intentional racist element involved. That hypothetical person who seriously claims one are a racist based on bedsheet colour doesn't exist. (Or a highly confused idiot) A strawman, in other words, used by bigots to discredit political correctness.

I hope your social circle doesn't contain lots of folks claiming that people choosing white bedsheets are racists.

AK
22nd September 2009, 14:06
No, what I'm saying is people claiming that people choosing white bedsheets are racists are the racists because they can distinguish racial difference with color and somehow compare the two and claim racism.

eyedrop
22nd September 2009, 14:26
No, what I'm saying is people claiming that people choosing white bedsheets are racists are the racists because they can distinguish racial difference with color and somehow compare the two and claim racism.

"...People claiming that people choosing white bedsheets are racists.." don't exists.

And no "they" aren't racists just moronic, but they don't exists outside of bigots imagination.

Why are you buying so much into a strawman arguement meant to attack political correctness?

I guess minority groups are shaking in their pants from the treath of racism of "...people claiming that people choosing white bedsheets are racists.."

mannetje
22nd September 2009, 14:37
Alot of people my age when someone choose say, white, over black for something's color, idk, anything, the other person immediately assumes they are racist for choosing white over black. I was thinking, wouldn't someone who can attribute certain colors to races and then call the other person a racist, be a racist themselves?

I don't because it is of being an insomniac, or it is because I took some shrooms, or that Í'm dumb, or my English is so bad, but also if I'm translating this. I don't underderstand what you're saying.

Do you mean that for an example: If I have too choose a black or a white person and I choose the white-one I would be a racist. and after that I can't follow this thread anymore:confused:

Pogue
22nd September 2009, 14:52
No, what I'm saying is people claiming that people choosing white bedsheets are racists are the racists because they can distinguish racial difference with color and somehow compare the two and claim racism.

Who are these bedsheet critics? This just seems like a ridiculously hypoethetical and specific situation and your conclusion doesn't seem to follow the premise...:confused:

ZeroNowhere
22nd September 2009, 15:56
I won as white in chess yesterday. This does not make me racist. If somebody came along and accused me of being racist because of it, I don't see how that would make them racist rather than just moronic.

Also, they aren't used as strawmen, at least not as far as I've seen, they're used as a humorous (and to some extent valid) attack through exaggeration against liberals and such.

mannetje
22nd September 2009, 16:42
I won as white in chess yesterday. This does not make me racist. If somebody came along and accused me of being racist because of it, I don't see how that would make them racist rather than just moronic.

Also, they aren't used as strawmen, at least not as far as I've seen, they're used as a humorous (and to some extent valid) attack through exaggeration against liberals and such. this post makes me understand this thread. thanks.

Killfacer
22nd September 2009, 17:01
I like green bedsheets tbh

Luís Henrique
22nd September 2009, 18:57
"...People claiming that people choosing white bedsheets are racists.." don't exists.
Having read people arguing that the word "person" is sexist and that we should use "perchildren" instead, I am far from being that sure.

Luís Henrique

AK
23rd September 2009, 02:48
ZeroNowhere, you win :crying:

revolt4thewin
29th September 2009, 01:31
Hmmm I don't know racism can be very colorful any varies depending on the culture at hand and region.

Jimmie Higgins
29th September 2009, 02:01
No im saying someone who says that person is racist, is the real racist, because they can find fault and "racism" in the person who chose the bedsheet's color preference when there was no intentional racist element involved.

They're only racist if they choose a white bedsheet to wear with their white hood to a cross burning. Then again, if someone liked black shirts to wear to their Italian fascist march - they too are a racist.

Sorry, I don't think that wearing white or black or any other color means anything unless it's part of some kind of uniform or nazi gang identification or something. I mean goth's don't like black because they are all about ending black oppression or anything.

If someone said someone else was a racist for picking on color shirt or sheet over another - they are probably joking or an idiot.

Jimmie Higgins
29th September 2009, 02:03
Fucking racist beds!

Oolong
29th September 2009, 08:01
I'd assume the person making the claim of racisim is just joking.

For example, my friend says she prefers white bread over wholemeal bread and I reply "Yeah, you do prefer things to be white bred".

I'm calling her racist due to her preference for one type of bread over another. Obviously I'm joking, and I don't thinking making that joke makes me racist either.