Racist attack against Eto'o and Balloteli

[Eat the Rich]

When Inter played Cagliari last weekend, the supporters of Cagliari started throwing about racist slurs against Samuel Eto'o and Mario Balloteli (an Italian whos ancestors came from Ghana). The leader of the football players' union in Italy, correctly stated that the game should have been postponed. According to me, the fans should have beat up these fascist elements. In general there are many racist attacks at football games. One cause of that is that fascists use football fan clubs in order to recruit. They recruit a lot in the football stadiums and they tend to dominate the organized fans in a lot of teams.

I remember when I was watching a football game in Spain with Barcelona playing against Atletico Madrit. There were more swastigas, dumb white power logos and franco pictures, than atletico flags or let's say Forlan (one of their best players) pictures.

Is it worth it cleaning the stadiums of the fascist scum? Is it worth it creating football clubs exclusively for ani-fascists? I think yes, because Europe is a football mad continent. We should not let fascists create fascist gangs composed of football hooligans, but instead try to eliminate the threat by smashing them eveywhere using our sheer numbers (in many places). Thoughts?

[F9]

Moved
I will hopefully get time to respond to that.

[Eat the Rich]

I think it belongs more to anti-fascism.

[Wanted Man]

According to me, the fans should have beat up these fascist elements.
In many cases, "the fans" don't really have a problem with these "elements"...


In general there are many racist attacks at football games. One cause of that is that fascists use football fan clubs in order to recruit. They recruit a lot in the football stadiums and they tend to dominate the organized fans in a lot of teams.
It seems more likely that it's not really a matter of "recruiting" by fascist organisations, but rather that the general climate leans towards fascism, and racist abuse is considered kosher by a significant part of the people in the stadium. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it is likely, given the political climate in general.


smashing them eveywhere using our sheer numbers (in many places). Thoughts?
Where? This sounds completely unrealistic. I don't get how you can make these sweeping statements about "the fans should do X", "the fascists are recruiting", "we should smash them anywhere". If it were that easy, it would have happened already.

[Pogue]

It is the role of fan's organisations to fight this stuff. I think fascism on the terraces should be dealt with like fascism on the streets - no platform.

[Wanted Man]

It is the role of fan's organisations to fight this stuff. I think fascism on the terraces should be dealt with like fascism on the streets - no platform.

I agree, but the reality seems to be that a lot of them don't feel that way at all. And besides organised fascism, there are also casual racist attitudes that easily translate into making monkey sounds at black players on the pitch. Which is not just done by a few jackbooted fascists. This should be seriously challenged by actual organisation, whereas Eat The Rich seems to have some image of "beating up fascist elements", "using our sheer numbers", etc.

[Eat the Rich]

Well I don't know what the situation in the Netherlands is. Maybe the left is small and the class struggle has not reached a level of that in Greece.
The left in Greece though is huge. Unfortunately, the KKE is not using its influence in order to smash Golden Dawn, which is a pretty big neo-nazi organization, that constantly attacks immigrants and other parts of the left. (They are smart enough not to attack KKE because they know they will be smashed in just one day if they provoke them).

Unfortunately the left has not done much to smash the fascists, in organizing the part of the working class it influences to do so. It is mostly Antifa, composed by anarchists and some minor left groups that fight fascism (the SWP in Greece which is pretty small etc). Given the fact that the stadiums are working-class dominated and many fan groups are political (either fascist or leftist), the organized left within the stadiums could mobilize fans, their members etc. to kick out the fascists from the stadiums. The fact is that the fascists in Greece are recruiting and influencing a lot of young people in the stadiums. Taking into account that there is a lot of hooliganism, those fascists easily create fascist gangs that terrorize, torture and sometimes kill. In the process of fighting fascism the working class will get radicalized and draw important lessons.

Therefore, I don't think its utopian to talk about smashing the nazis in the stadiums, at least in Greece and anywhere else where there are similar conditions .

[Wanted Man]

Well I don't know what the situation in the Netherlands is. Maybe the left is small and the class struggle has not reached a level of that in Greece.

That basically sums it up, yes.

[Killfacer]

The idea that Italian football supporters groups will do anything to curb racist behavior is ridiculous and unrealistic.

Fascist ideology is held strongly amongst many italian football fans and i can't see that changing in the near future.

[Black&Red]

Except for the good people of Livorno.:D