Obama scraps 'Son of star wars'

[Dr Mindbender]

Whatever your opinion of Obama, this is a move in the right direction.

At least now the resident neighbours of RAF Fylingdales can breathe a sigh of relief.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/09/18/barack-obama-scraps-bush-s-star-wars-european-missile-defence-shield-115875-21682353/


Barack Obama yesterday scrapped predecessor George W Bush's Star Wars missile defence shield for Europe.
His move drew fierce criticism and raised fears that the Continent would be left vulnerable to Iranian long-range missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads.
But it eased tensions with Russia, which had seen the system - to be based in Poland and the Czech Republic - as a threat to its nuclear power balance with the US. It also opens the way to a major US-Russia deal to cut their nuclear arsenals, possibly as early as next week.
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said he and Mr Obama had in earlier meetings expressed the need to work together to assess the risks of missile proliferation.
He said: "The statement made in Washington shows that quite good conditions are evolving for such work."
The White House said the decision came after intelligence reports suggested the threat from long-range Iranian missiles was not as great as previously feared.
President Obama said they would use smaller, more mobile systems. He said: "Our new missile defence architecture in Europe will provide stronger, smarter and swifter defences of US forces and America's allies.
"It is more comprehensive than the previous programme, deploys capabilities that are proven and cost effective and builds on our commitment to protect the US homeland."

[Dimentio]

It was blatantly obvious that the system envisioned by the Bush government was targeted against Russia. That Russia has decided to cancel its placement of missiles in Kaliningrad inclines that the land doesn't really have any offensive plans against Europe, but believed that NATO had offensive plans against Russia.

[Dr Mindbender]

It was blatantly obvious that the system envisioned by the Bush government was targeted against Russia.

i think thats made even more obvious by the way Republican hacks are lambasting the descision as a ''concession to Moscow''.

[jake williams]

Whatever your opinion of Obama, this is a move in the right direction.

At least now the resident neighbours of RAF Fylingdales can breathe a sigh of relief.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/09/18/barack-obama-scraps-bush-s-star-wars-european-missile-defence-shield-115875-21682353/
I'm not saying it's not positive, but like three hours after the announcement I saw an analysis from Reuters saying that investors were some shade of ecstatic about the decision - US firms were getting trouble from the Russian government, etc.

[Rusty Shackleford]

I think its great that the US is canceling the poland project. but i heard that the US was planning on doing ocean based missile defence instead. i dont know how that would work. Oilrig Missile Silos? using Boomer subs?

[Dr Mindbender]

I think its great that the US is canceling the poland project. but i heard that the US was planning on doing ocean based missile defence instead. i dont know how that would work. Oilrig Missile Silos? using Boomer subs?

submarines would be most likely. That would be a worrying development actually, because it means the UK would be able to take part in a direct capacity using it's trident subs.

[Rusty Shackleford]

submarines would be most likely. That would be a worrying development actually, because it means the UK would be able to take part in a direct capacity using it's trident subs.

well, i just hope they(any nation) never develop anti ICBM technology. the only thing it will do is make nuclear war seem more feasible.

first priority of the revolution after workers control, is to get a hand on all the nuclear weapons and destroying them. :thumbup:

[Dimentio]

I think its great that the US is canceling the poland project. but i heard that the US was planning on doing ocean based missile defence instead. i dont know how that would work. Oilrig Missile Silos? using Boomer subs?

Well, the USA would focus on Iran now.

[Dr Mindbender]

well, i just hope they(any nation) never develop anti ICBM technology. the only thing it will do is make nuclear war seem more feasible.


With submarines you dont need ICBM's though. A submarine is basically a mobile alternative to ICBM's but you can still hit any target on Earth (or in orbit for that matter). The only reason britain cancelled its own ICBM project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Streak_missile) was because the USA promised them protection under its own defense umbrella.

[Rusty Shackleford]

With submarines you dont need ICBM's though. A submarine is basically a mobile alternative to ICBM's but you can still hit any target on Earth (or in orbit for that matter). The only reason britain cancelled its own ICBM project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Streak_missile) was because the USA promised them protection under its own defense umbrella.


well, these missiles the US plans on countering are land based. Iran, Russia, North Korea. all for the most part use land based missiles. I know russia has missile submarines too but i dont know how extensively they use them.

[chaotic]

It looks like United States are having some money problems. Otherwise, they would probably continue with building.