View Full Version : Zizek on Ayn Rand
GracchusBabeuf
16th September 2009, 20:51
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Havet
16th September 2009, 21:09
doublepost, sorry
Havet
16th September 2009, 21:10
http://www.lacan.com/SINGLEP.GIFThe elementary ideological axis of her work consists in the opposition between the prime movers, "men of mind," and second handers, "mass men."
Actually, it's the opposition between the "men of mind" (which include scientists, engineers, industrialists and even workers), and the "looters and moochers" (which are the government bureaucrats, the statist capitalists who seek monopolization, politicians, etc)
and the desperate society calls the prime movers back — they accept it, but under their own terms...
SPOILER
They call the prime movers back, but they do not accept it - they wait until the lights of new york disappear.
IcarusAngel
16th September 2009, 21:13
I don't get the concept of a class of supermen and then there is this whole class of weaklings, and the supermen must own the property.
This isn't true in the sciences at all. Scientists borrow ideas from each other all the time and generally don't try and patent ideas. Ask Noam Chomsky or any other intellectual who's done famous work if he did it all himself. Even Newton said that he accomplished what he did by 'standing on the shoulders of others.'
People should check out Russell's "Principles of Social Reconstruction" where he notes the distinction between good things and bad things (my terminology, not his) is that good things are more along the lines of things that are shared by all.
Havet
16th September 2009, 22:00
Hayenmill, What do you think about the rest of the article?
I agree with it, which is why I didn't comment on the rest ^^
I just thought on enlightening some parts I thought were misleading.
Kronos
16th September 2009, 22:16
Another psychoanalytical narrative by Zizek that was a joy to read.
Good find.
Rosa Lichtenstein
16th September 2009, 22:22
The idea that a 'Lacanian' can point fingers at any other theorist is amusing enough in itself, especially since Lacan wrote several books of outright fiction masquerading as 'theory' himself.
IcarusAngel
16th September 2009, 22:26
Ayn Rand's books were the two absolute best sellers in the twentieth century?
JK Rowling's books have sold about 7 million for each of the Harry Potter series. I know the author from Twlight has sold a lot as well. Stephen King's books have sold over 300 million. i'm current reading Cujo.
Kronos
16th September 2009, 22:27
Rosa, when psychology (pseudo or not) is on the side of the left, don't throw it out for god's sake!
Sometimes I'm afraid you are too honest to be a revolutionary.
Rosa Lichtenstein
16th September 2009, 22:30
Kronos:
Rosa, when psychology (pseudo or not) is on the side of the left, don't throw it out for god's sake!
Sometimes I'm afraid you are too honest to be a revolutionary.
If we have to rely on this charlatan, then we really are screwed!
IcarusAngel
16th September 2009, 22:31
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F I C T I O N
1. The Plains of Passage, Jean M. Auel
2. Four Past Midnight, Stephen King
3. The Burden of Proof, Scott Turow
4. Memories of Midnight, Sidney Sheldon
5. Message from Nam, Danielle Steel
6. The Bourne Ultimatum, Robert Ludlum
7. The Stand: The Complete and Uncut Edition, Stephen King
8. Lady Boss, Jackie Collins
9. The Witching Hour, Anne Rice
10. September, Rosamunde Pilcher
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F I C T I O N
1. The Covenant, James A. Michener
2. The Bourne Identity, Robert Ludlum
3. Rage of Angels, Sidney Sheldon
4. Princess Daisy, Judith Krantz
5. Firestarter, Stephen King
6. The Key to Rebecca, Ken Follett
7. Random Winds, Belva Plain
8. The Devil's Alternative, Frederick Forsyth
9. The Fifth Horseman, Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre 10. The Spike, Arnaud de Borchgrave and Robert Moss
1. Love Story, Erich Segal
2. The French Lieutenant's Woman, John Fowles
3. Islands in the Stream, Ernest Hemingway
4. The Crystal Cave, Mary Stewart
5. Great Lion of God, Taylor Caldwell
6. QB VII, Leon Uris
7. The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight, Jimmy Breslin
8. The Secret Woman, Victoria Holt
9. Travels with My Aunt, Graham Greene 10. Rich Man, Poor Man, Irwin Shaw
I can't find ayn rand for the 50s, 60s, or 70s fiction list either.
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