NF March November 8th

[MilitantAnarchist]

Just seen this on Stormfront...

This is to remind ALL British Nationalists that YOU are invited to march with the National Front on Sunday 8th November 2009. The march should commence in the Victoria area and proceed to the Cenotaph for the wreath laying ceremony to honour Britain's war dead of all past conflicts and current ones. This will be followed by a short rally and a social get together.
A special Remembrance issue of "Britain First" (the new official monthly paper of the NF) will be available.

The NF have been marching every November for over forty years. Last year, 270 Nationalists marched with the NF through London to the Mall. This year the NF want to see over 500 in the biggest march for many years. Remember it is less than two months off - so start making your plans now! No matter what patriotic group you are in, you are more then welcome to march with the Frontfighters of the NF in this most significant of all days...

[Pogue]

Thanks for posting this, is it confirmed?

[MilitantAnarchist]

It isnt 100% confirmed yet but NF say it is 'most likely' to be on that date. Also getting some good info about up coming NF meetings, but will post when i no more on this

[MilitantAnarchist]

http://britnationalist.blogspot.com/
there is somthing about it on this... if you can put up with reading more it for more then 5seconds

[Pogue]

ok. its a long way off yet but i am sure discussion on this will happen.

[MilitantAnarchist]

It isnt that far away, not even a couple of months. We need to plan well in advance to act effectively.

[Holden Caulfield]

It isnt that far away, not even a couple of months. We need to plan well in advance to act effectively.

what do you propose?
:blink:

[MilitantAnarchist]

I propose a large scale organised rebellion against them.
EDL will surely be there, as will other right wing groups, by the sounds of it, it's not just a NF thing, it is a whole nationalist movement thing.
I have a proposal for all the antifascists in the UK, and i'll make a new thread in a moment for it... The Counter Reaction

[Holden Caulfield]

I propose a large scale organised rebellion against them.
EDL will surely be there, as will other right wing groups, by the sounds of it, it's not just a NF thing, it is a whole nationalist movement thing.
I have a proposal for all the antifascists in the UK, and i'll make a new thread in a moment for it... The Counter Reaction

going along to a city centre crawling with coppers and fascists is a good way to find yourself nicked and getting nowhere near the fash.

getting nicked and bailed is a good way to halt your future activism

[MilitantAnarchist]

Who said anything about violence? We're not going there to cause trouble, we are they to peacefully protest. But if someone should attack us, we are sure to fight back, thats human nature :p
I'm not talking about causing trouble or anything, but we cant go on thinking 'oh no not the coppers' whatever happened to an ACAB mentallity?
If we dont do somthing we are just as bad as the fucking fash for allowing them to do this.

NO PASARAN!

[JohannGE]

going along to a city centre crawling with coppers and fascists is a good way to find yourself nicked and getting nowhere near the fash.

getting nicked and bailed is a good way to halt your future activism

I have been reading with interest (and some aggreement) your recent posts questioning the tactics of opposing the apparent rise of the far right in the UK.

Has this questioning now led you to campaign against counter protests?
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[Holden Caulfield]

I have been reading with interest (and some aggreement) your recent posts questioning the tactics of opposing the apparent rise of the far right in the UK.

Has this questioning now led you to campaign against counter protests?
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what the fuck are you going on about?

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

He wants to know if you support counter demos

[Melbourne Lefty]

I propose a large scale organised rebellion against them.
EDL will surely be there, as will other right wing groups, by the sounds of it, it's not just a NF thing, it is a whole nationalist movement thing.
I have a proposal for all the antifascists in the UK, and i'll make a new thread in a moment for it... The Counter Reaction

:rolleyes:

The EDL wont be there, the EDL consider the BNP to be racists and wont march alongside them, god only knows what they think of the NF.

This happened last year and they got 300 marchers, no opposition at all. This year they should get 300 marchers again.

An anti-fascist counter protest would be a good idea, especially if anyone thinks they could get more than the 300+ mark.

[JohannGE]

what the fuck are you going on about?

Hardly "going on" with a single sentence and a straight question but I see I could have worded it better. Replace "questioning" with re-examining" and "counter protests" with counter demo's if you like.

As Comrade Joe suggests, I was asking, especialy in the light of recent posts such as the "Give it up" article (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1516772&postcount=1 ) if you support counter demos.

You seem to be steering MilitantAnarchist away from the idea.

Excuse me for valuing your opinion.

[Fietsketting]

If you know the location where there demo starts have a demo there 2 hours before theirs and have a bloccade, even the UAF can do that much. A black block would be even better tho ;)

[Pogue]

:rolleyes:

The EDL wont be there, the EDL consider the BNP to be racists and wont march alongside them, god only knows what they think of the NF.

This happened last year and they got 300 marchers, no opposition at all. This year they should get 300 marchers again.

An anti-fascist counter protest would be a good idea, especially if anyone thinks they could get more than the 300+ mark.

The EDL are hardly a homogenous and disciplined group. While you are right that they wont have an official presence on the march, there will certainly be individual members, and seeing as the group is basically a football firm anyway (in how it is structured) they don't really have any rules on what members do. No one has been kicked out for sieg heiling or wearing Zyklon B shirts, or for attacking Asian kids, as an example.

I'll get down to talking in real life about opposition, I am sure if anything is organised it will be advertised somewhere.

[Holden Caulfield]

Hardly "going on" with a single sentence and a straight question but I see I could have worded it better. Replace "questioning" with re-examining" and "counter protests" with counter demo's if you like.

As Comrade Joe suggests, I was asking, especialy in the light of recent posts such as the "Give it up" article (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1516772&postcount=1 ) if you support counter demos.

You seem to be steering MilitantAnarchist away from the idea.

Excuse me for valuing your opinion.

Well thats an article I posted, I agree with in in points (marching in a UAF style often achieves little and has been proven with the reference I gave to Nuneaton elections) but I didnt write it so its hardly my post.

I was steering MA away from getting nicked, turning up to such an event with the 'antifa hooligan!!!' attitude isn't a good idea I don't think. It seemed this was his attitude, I was trying to curb his enthuasiam for smashing fash on this occasion for his own benafit. (nothing wrong with passion, but you need to be careful above everything else)

Of course I don't oppose counter demos though, that is pretty hard to draw that conclusion from my posts, outnumbering and shouting down the fash, or simply blocking the place they want to go to or start from is a brilliant idea. This I have said time and again (especially for the Leeds UAF/BPP demo and to a lesser degree for RWB this year, or further from home my support for european comrades swamping the fash at Koln).

I don't think I've ever been unconstructively negative towards people (UAF maybe haha) when I've been mod of this forum.

[Partizani]

Is there going to be anymore info regarding this event coming soon?

[BurnTheOliveTree]

I'm at a left-wing student union in london. Do you think I should propose some kind of action in response to the NF march?

[MilitantAnarchist]

I believe some are meeting up at Victoria station, but not sure what time or anyting... But I'm sure they wont be difficult to miss outside train stations and bus stations around the capital.

[Pogue]

Don't discuss this on here, any details will be posted, try getting in contact with any local anti-fascists you know in real life.