Lenin's Body Should Not Be Buried

[Rakhmetov]

Even the IMT refuses to lend its voice to the bourgeois clamor to bury Lenin's corpse.

http://www.marxist.com/should-lenin-be-buried.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUkdZGeIsZU&feature=related

[Q]

Lenin's last wish was to be buried next to his mother. When the revolution hits Russia again, this should be the first thing done. It is long overdue.

[scarletghoul]

The commie tradition of displaying leaders' corpses is stupid, usually against their wishes and always encouraging great man theory which is bad for socialism

[Revy]

What is the point of burying him now? Personally, I think it's an admirable achievement that his body has been kept in that condition for so long.

edit: But I also see the point in respecting his original wishes as Q noted. So I'm on the fence.

[Eat the Rich]

Even the IMT refuses to lend its voice to the bourgeois clamor to bury Lenin's corpse.

What do you mean even the IMT? :rolleyes:

Anyways I agree, Lenin's body should not be burried at this moment. But as Q said, it should be burried once we have socialism again in Russia. In general the tradition of doing stuff like that was started by the Stalinist counter-revolution. They built monuments of Lenin for the sake of ... continuity, while they threw the Bolshevik theories in the trashcan and old Bolsheviks in exile, gulags and the death row.

[scarletghoul]

Lenin's last wish was to be buried next to his mother. When the revolution hits Russia again, this should be the first thing done. It is long overdue.
I dunno about the "first thing done"... surely in a situation like that there would be more pressing matters, lol

[Axle]

Lenin should be buried, but for different reasons than the bourgouise want him to be.

Lenin not only wanted to be buried, but being placed on display in a way still continues his personality cult, which is incompatible with the radical left.

And I've always thought it was morbid having him on display.

[Wakizashi the Bolshevik]

I am against the burial of Lenin, even if this does not comply to his wish.
Lenins mausoleum and corpse is a too important monument for Communists around the world, and especially in Russia. He is just way to important to simply stick in the ground. Like it or not, Lenin is still important for the Communist movement and I will always be against his burial.

[Lumpen Bourgeois]

Who knows? With the strides we're making in technology and science, we might just be able to reanimate him one day.

I'd keep him out of the ground, just for that possibility.

[Vendetta]

It's a body.

Good grief.

[Q]

I am against the burial of Lenin, even if this does not comply to his wish.
Lenins mausoleum and corpse is a too important monument for Communists around the world, and especially in Russia. He is just way to important to simply stick in the ground. Like it or not, Lenin is still important for the Communist movement and I will always be against his burial.
It's a fucking freak show if you ask me. The personality cult is stupid and the Lenin mausoleum is an outright creepy example.

[LOLseph Stalin]

The Lenin mausoleum does attract tourists, but that's exactly what Capitalists would want, right? It's a similar thing with the whole Che Guevara T-shirt trend. It's a Communist's image being exploited for profit.

[Black_Flag]

I am against the burial of Lenin, even if this does not comply to his wish.
Lenins mausoleum and corpse is a too important monument for Communists around the world, and especially in Russia. He is just way to important to simply stick in the ground. Like it or not, Lenin is still important for the Communist movement and I will always be against his burial.

I fail to see how a corpse can be important. Your almsot talking like Communism is a religion, where Lenins body should treated like some sort of sacred relic.

[Q]

I fail to see how a corpse can be important. Your almsot talking like Communism is a religion, where Lenins body should treated like some sort of sacred relic.
Maybe the embalmed corpse is a symbol for him, the last vestige of a dead past? The dead past of degenerated socialism.

[Lyev]

It is rather creepy actually I agree Q. I think he was a fairly sound bloke but I wouldn't fucking preserve him. I don't think I would want to be preserved.

[Eat the Rich]

The genuine Bolshevik-Leninists ("Trotskyists") were opposed to this practice [the mausoleum and building cult icons]. However, today the situation is rather different. Trotsky pointed out that what is important is not just what is said, but who says it and for what purpose.

Lenin led the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution to found the first workers' state in the world. Stalin destroyed Lenin's regime of workers' democracy and installed a monstrous bureaucratic totalitarian edifice on the bones of the Bolshevik Party. However, the nationalized property relations established by October survived and enabled the USSR to achieve remarkable results.

In the end the Stalinist bureaucracy destroyed the last remnants of the Soviet workers' state, turning themselves into private capitalists. It was Gorbachev himself who presided over the break-up of the USSR. Now Gorbachev, 77, says: "My view is [that] we should not be occupied right now with grave-digging. But we will necessarily come to a time when the mausoleum will have lost its meaning and we will bury [Lenin], give him up to the earth as his family had wanted. I think the time will come."

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, there have been many attempts to have the tomb removed from Red Square.
The first post-Soviet leader, Boris Yeltsin, spoke in favour of removing the mausoleum and the Orthodox Church has called for the former leader to be buried. But the reason for this has nothing to de with religion. The bourgeois counterrevolutionaries are afraid that one day the ideas of Lenin and Trotsky will come back to haunt them. That is why they are always demanding the removal of Lenin's tomb from Red Square.

However, all these attempts met were unpopular and met with resistance. In the end, Yeltsin avoided taking a decision. Vladimir Putin also fudged the issue, saying it was emotive and hard to tackle. His successor, President Dmitry Medvedev, has not yet made his position clear.

Despite everything, the Communists are the second-biggest political party. The working class looks back with nostalgia to the days of the nationalized planned economy when there was full employment, good education and health services. Lenin's tomb is still a reminder of the Russian Revolution, a symbol and a rallying point.
That is why we cannot lend our voice to the chorus of reactionaries demanding its removal. Lenin's tomb should stay where it is. More importantly, Lenin's ideas and programme must be revived and will be revived as the only way forward for the workers of Russia.

[Eat the Rich]

spent most his political career in the Mensheviks First lie. Trotsky spent only one year with the Mensheviks, in 1903-1904 when they did not have a clear ideological divide with the Bolsheviks.


arguing against Leninism2nd lie. Trotsky had more in common with Lenin before 1917, than Stalinism has with Marxism-Leninism. They agreed on all fundamental questions, more so in 1917 and that is why Lenin allowed Trotsky to have such a high position in the Bolshevik Party (2nd only to Lenin).


be considered a genuine Leninist? Because "Trotskyism", is fundamentaly the same as Bolshevim, it is actualy its continuity. Unless you can find one theoretical difference... which you can't.

[Rakhmetov]

What do you mean even the IMT? :rolleyes:

Anyways I agree, Lenin's body should not be burried at this moment. But as Q said, it should be burried once we have socialism again in Russia. In general the tradition of doing stuff like that was started by the Stalinist counter-revolution. They built monuments of Lenin for the sake of ... continuity, while they threw the Bolshevik theories in the trashcan and old Bolsheviks in exile, gulags and the death row.


International Marxist Tendency

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Marxist_Tendency

[RedSonRising]

I think if we respect the man at all, we should abide to his original wishes. He didn't want the personality cult that ensued following his death, and while his body is a great monument and symbol of communism which I would like to visit because I think it's cool as hell despite the slight creepiness, we can't sit here and applaud any of his theories and achievements and then turn around and spit in his face by using his body the way others see fit.

[chegitz guevara]

I think it's a silly thing for socialists to be arguing over. At this point, it's not even a dead body. "He's more machine now than man; twisted and evil." ;)

[Revy]

I'm not trying to be a troll here, but wouldn't a lot of the Leninists just make an even bigger show out of his burial?

[cb9's_unity]

This should be moved to chit chat, a single corpse has very little relevance to our movement today.

People too often worship Lenin the man when all that is significant (whether you like them or not) are his works and his ideas.

[Jazzratt]

Naturally I don't think his body should be buried; his body should be cremated and the ashes scattered, burial is an outdated and wasteful practice.

[Kassad]

You're all wrong. We need to infiltrate Lenin's mausoleum and fuse his spine with a metallic one and replace his primitive body parts with robotic technology. Robo-Lenin will crush the bourgeoisie and liberate the people.

...Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology.

[chegitz guevara]

http://img.funnyanimatedgifs.net/img/2009-simpsons-lenin-must-crush-capitalism.gif

[Искра]

Lenin's like a Snow White.
Someone should go a kiss him, maybe he woke up.
:star3::wub::star3:

[Revy]

I knew I remembered that there was talk about cloning Lenin. thanks Google.


Controversy still rages over Lenin's resting place

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9801/21/russia.lenin/lenin.jpg Lenin's body has been on display in the heart of Red Square in Moscow for three quarters of a century Communists dream of cloning embalmed leader

January 21, 1998
Web posted at: 1:46 p.m. EST (1846 GMT) From Correspondent Steve Harrigan
MOSCOW (http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9801/21/russia.lenin/russia.moscow.lg.jpg) (CNN) -- On the anniversary of his death, Vladimir Lenin still lies where he has for more than 70 years, in Red Square in the heart of Moscow. Outside the mausoleum, however, controversy still rages about where the Communist leader belongs.
"No one is going to come in here and put their dirty hands on this mausoleum, one of the greatest achievements in all civilization," said Communist Party leader Gennady Zyuganov.
But some government reformers view the preserved corpse as the source of all Russia's problems.
"I feel something mystical about it," said First Vice Premier Boris Nemtsov. "Unless we bury Lenin, Russia will remain under an evil spell."
Even Russian President Boris Yeltsin has called for Lenin's burial in a cemetery in St. Petersburg. But so far, the threat of confrontation with outraged Communists has kept anyone from acting.
While politicians battle over what to do with Lenin's body, the Russian czar's legacy of Marxism is being diluted by the reality of modern day Russian society.
With few visitors and little government support, the Lenin Funeral Train Museum has turned to capitalism. Part of the museum is now an auto salon, selling Mercedes-Benzes to wealthy Russians.
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9801/21/russia.lenin/lenin.house.jpg Once a popular tourist attraction, today Lenin's home draws few visitors And Lenin's home outside Moscow, which once drew more than half a million Russians a year, is visited on a recent day by only a few local schoolchildren and their teacher.
"I can still remember coming here as a child, how excited we were, what a great holiday it was. Now, of course, that's all gone. It's a pity," the teacher said.
There may be hope, however.
Officials of what is left of Russia's Young Communist Union, are holding out for the prospect of cloning the revered leader.
As the world's most prominently embalmed man, Lenin's remains provide the necessary gene pool for reproduction.
But even Darya Mitina, a member of the Communist faction of Russia's lower house of parliament, conceded that a cloned Lenin just wouldn't be the same as the original.
"There will be no second Lenin," she said. "It's impossible to recreate everything -- to repeat the history of 1917. We can't recreate the social conditions of the time."

[Jethro Tull]

Naturally I don't think his body should be buried; his body should be cremated and the ashes scattered, burial is an outdated and wasteful practice.

Not to split hairs, but doesn't cremation use more energy? It takes a lot of heat, and thus energy, to reduce the entire body to ash. (Do you realize what temperature is required to burn bones?) By burying a corpse in a plot of land, you are increasing it's fertility in the same way you would if you added leaves, grass clippings, manure, etc. more so than you would by burning a corpse and spreading ash. From a purely utilitarian perspective, burial is better if we discount fancy, industrially produced coffins

Cremation and burial are both legitimately powerful ways of celebrating the deceased - neither should be discounted as meaningful. However, Lenin's corpse should be desecrated because he is an enemy of the revolution. :D

[JohannGE]

I can't believe that supposedly rational people give a dam!

What a farce.

:laugh:

[Dr Mindbender]

it might be morbid, but hell i want to see him for myself. :D

[amandevsingh]

Not to split hairs, but doesn't cremation use more energy? It takes a lot of heat, and thus energy, to reduce the entire body to ash. (Do you realize what temperature is required to burn bones?) By burying a corpse in a plot of land, you are increasing it's fertility in the same way you would if you added leaves, grass clippings, manure, etc. more so than you would by burning a corpse and spreading ash. From a purely utilitarian perspective, burial is better if we discount fancy, industrially produced coffins

No it isn't because the deluded Christians, Muslims, etc. will be pissed if we farm on dead their people. Plus god will be pissed too and not let those people into heaven.

Cremation and burial are both legitimately powerful ways of celebrating the deceased - neither should be discounted as meaningful. However, Lenin's corpse should be desecrated because he is an enemy of the revolution.

Neither of them are, because the dead shouldn't be celebrated, they are dead that is that; anything more is foolish superstition. and about the Lenin thing: STFU.

[Revy]

I say we bury him......on Mars. The Red Leader should get glorious burial on Red Planet.

[Dr Mindbender]

I say we bury him......on Mars. The Red Leader should get glorious burial on Red Planet.

move his moloseum to mars, the lack of microbes will ensure he is preserved permanently.

[Calmwinds]

I don't know, maybe some people think this is weird, but I always thought that he was pretty interesting and I would go like to see it for myself.

What is this so called "personality cult" people are talking about?

[Revy]

I don't know, maybe some people think this is weird, but I always thought that he was pretty interesting and I would go like to see it for myself.

What is this so called "personality cult" people are talking about?

The real personality cults aren't around Lenin, although they operate in his name. Bob Avakian, David North, Jack Barnes. These people are exalted far more than Lenin.

[scarletghoul]

There is definately a Lenin cult of personality that seems to have arisen after his death. Just look at all the statues and images of his bald ginger face around the Soviet Union, its stupid. He's up there with Kim Mao and Stalin for personality cult, even if it isn't his fault.

[Revy]

There's a statue of him in Seattle:D

[Искра]

There's a statue of him in Seattle:D
Kick over the statutes... lalalalalallaaaaalalalaa
:reda:

[RedAnarchist]

Just follow what he wanted and bury him next to his mother. If people still want to visit his masoleum, make it into some sort of museum about him or something.

[Jethro Tull]

No it isn't because the deluded Christians, Muslims, etc. will be pissed if we farm on dead their people.

i can't speak for "deluded christians, muslims, etc." but i could see cemetaries doubling asa source of food (nut trees, fruit trees, various edible plants, possible potential for hunting, etc.) while still providing space for stone monuments. the graveyard in the town that i live in is filled with trees and is more natural than most of the rest of the city - but i'm sure you marxist-leninists would put a stop to the "foolish superstitiousness" once you form your "proletarian dictatorship" by paving the graveyard over to make room for a yugo car lot.


Neither of them are, because the dead shouldn't be celebrated

proof that marxist-leninists are emotionally illiterate and despotic.


and about the Lenin thing: STFU.

no u.

[NecroCommie]

I fail to see how a corpse can be important.


You're all wrong. We need to infiltrate Lenin's mausoleum and fuse his spine with a metallic one and replace his primitive body parts with robotic technology. Robo-Lenin will crush the bourgeoisie and liberate the people.

Nuf said...

[NecroCommie]

I knew I remembered that there was talk about cloning Lenin.
Hell yeah!
Imagine an amry of ten thousand Lenins! That would make every single capitalist in the world shit their pants! :thumbup1:

[scarletghoul]

Hahaha.
But really, Lenins not mass army material. Best to clone just one or 2 as intelect is his main thing
The one to create 10,000 clones of is Fyodor Okhlopkov, motherfuckin coolest sniper ever

[NecroCommie]

But Lenin army does not need guns. They just walk to the enemy and start saying things like: "all power to the soviets!", and "Jews are people too!" And the entire cappie army starts revolting against their former masters.

[scarletghoul]

hahahahahahaha:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[RedScare]

I agree with Q, although I hope I get to see it before he is buried, it would be pretty interesting.

[LOLseph Stalin]

I agree with Q, although I hope I get to see it before he is buried, it would be pretty interesting.

I know people who have seen it and they're not even communist. Just comes to show it is being exploited for profit. I doubt I'll ever get to see it if it's really as hard for Canadians to get into Russia as I've been told.

[RedAnarchist]

I don't think this is apt for Politics, so I'm going to move it to Chit Chat.

[Pavlov's House Party]

You're all wrong. We need to infiltrate Lenin's mausoleum and fuse his spine with a metallic one and replace his primitive body parts with robotic technology. Robo-Lenin will crush the bourgeoisie and liberate the people.

...Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology.

This.

[Dr Mindbender]

I don't think this is apt for Politics, so I'm going to move it to Chit Chat.

id like you to move it back to politics so i can score some more rep points. :D

[spiltteeth]

Personally I've always thought we should grow psychedelic mushrooms on Lenin's corpse, thousands of them, then as an entire society we consume them, sit around a fire, and hallucinate the next great advance in Communist theory.

[Comrade Anarchist]

I think we ought to burn it with the rest of the fascists and capitalists.

[amandevsingh]

Jethro your an idiot. Not celebrating the dead makes you despotic? They are dead, that is end, cry if you wish, but don't have a fucking party. In short, it doesn't, hth hth.

[Weezer]

Although I would like to comply with Lenin's request, I will stand for his body to stay preserved, but only under the condition that the mausoleum would be redesigned, preferably to look like this:

http://englishrussia.com/images/project_mausoleum/1.jpg



More "Project Mausoleum" pictures can be found here. (http://englishrussia.com/?p=2237)

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I know people who have seen it and they're not even communist. Just comes to show it is being exploited for profit. I doubt I'll ever get to see it if it's really as hard for Canadians to get into Russia as I've been told.

Lenin mausoleum should do a world tour
in the true spirit of internationalism

[Revy]

oh what a fun thread

MOAR LENIN JOKES PLZ

[Il Medico]

I think we ought to burn it with the rest of the fascists and capitalists.
What? :confused:

[NecroCommie]

The commie tradition of displaying leaders' corpses is stupid, usually against their wishes and always encouraging great man theory which is bad for socialism
I have no objection to displaying the mausoleum as a monument to communism, but I share your concern with the possible promotion of great man theory. It serves an ill purpose to a widespread class conciousness. Lenin should be buried.

[NecroCommie]

Although I would like to comply with Lenin's request, I will stand for his body to stay preserved, but only under the condition that the mausoleum would be redesigned, preferably to look like this:

http://englishrussia.com/images/project_mausoleum/1.jpg



More "Project Mausoleum" pictures can be found here. (http://englishrussia.com/?p=2237)

Pure awesomeness. I admit, I have a weak spot for epic monuments. When the revolution comes, we need to build a Lenin-monument that spans two continents, and that would be the only monument we need. That would be one heck of a statement! Oh, and the monument would have 24/7 band playing "I lenin takoi molodoi" ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO-5JEhRas4

[Honggweilo]

Although I would like to comply with Lenin's request, I will stand for his body to stay preserved, but only under the condition that the mausoleum would be redesigned, preferably to look like this:

http://englishrussia.com/images/project_mausoleum/1.jpg



More "Project Mausoleum" pictures can be found here. (http://englishrussia.com/?p=2237)

put his balmed in carbonite and place him ontop of Melinkovs building

[Red Isa]

He should be buried, he is currently on display miles away from where he wished to be buried. That's my opinion. This song is sort of about that. It's called lenin and it's by benign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOoXdFBsWr8#movie_player

[Comrade Anarchist]

When you worship the man instead of looking at his is fascist ideas you become blinded. This is just worship of a man. That giant building or monument orignally had a worker on top but stalin changed it because having faith in the worker takes control away from the state.

[Il Medico]

When you worship the man instead of looking at his is fascist ideas you become blinded. This is just worship of a man. That giant building or monument orignally had a worker on top but stalin changed it because having faith in the worker takes control away from the state.
Learn the definition of Fascist.

[Comrade Anarchist]

Learn the definition of Fascist.

Main Entry: fas·cism
Pronunciation: \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date: 1921
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascist#) above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

merriam-webster

That sounds exactly like the soviet union. I thought i had the definition correct when i said the above statement so im going to stick with it and if you don't know the definition just look a few lines up.

[Jazzratt]

Main Entry: fas·cism
Pronunciation: \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date: 1921
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascist#) above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

merriam-webster

That sounds exactly like the soviet union. I thought i had the definition correct when i said the above statement so im going to stick with it and if you don't know the definition just look a few lines up.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj51/crys77/polar-bear-face-palm_thumbnail1.jpg

[NecroCommie]

1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime... That exalts nation and oftenrace (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascist#)...
That sounds exactly like the soviet union.
...not!

[Comrade Anarchist]

...not!

Maybe you should have read a little further. It says nation or race over "the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"

Once again maybe you should stop nitpicking the defintion and maybe you should read it. I see correlations between this small definition and the Ussr. If you do not then just keep reading till you get it.

[NecroCommie]

Partial match does not make fascist. Besides, even those "matches" can be contested. Perhaps you should stop thinking in absolutes. We all know that fascism has never existed outside some quite obvious countries that all fell in WW2. If we go broadening the definition we will soon have a fascist government in every second country, which obviously is not the case.

[Sentinel]

Get rid of it, it brings bad luck. Not only to the USSR, either -- my father was in Moscow in the 70's. He went to visit the Mausoleum and got seriously ill.

Perhaps it should be mentioned here that he did incidentally also drink some Moscow tap water at the hotel after the tour, but I personally like believing in the Curse of Lenin's Mummy more.

Seriously speaking, communists shouldn't practice worshipping idols. Bury it already.

[Tyrlop]

FACEPALM BEAR PICTURE, right?
yew are so conservative individualist humourous right now. xenophobe.

[Vanguard1917]

Would Lenin have supported being on permanent display in a mausoleum like a modern day religious icon? For me, the answer to that is obvious: Lenin would have been horrified and repulsed by the idea. It is, and always has been, an insult to everything that Lenin believed in and stood for.

"All our lives we fought against exalting the individual, against the elevation of the single person, and long ago we were over and done with the business of a hero, and here it comes up again: the glorification of one personality. This is not good at all. I am just like everybody else."
- Lenin

[BobKKKindle$]

We'll bury him shortly after the revolution, in Simbirsk, and get on with the job of building a new world. Also, that monument someone posted above is ghastly.

[Red Isa]

The fact that Mao is embalmed is a travesty! He said himself that when a person dies their body needs not take up space in the world and should be cremated. I'm not sure if I believe that but it sucks that his image is representing something he didn't believe in.

Now, as for Lenin, his last wish was indeed to be buried next to his mother. This wish was ignored when Stalin had the best scientists in the Soviet Union preserve Lenin's corpse.
I am purely anti-stalin and I do believe that Lenin should be buried.

Long live Comrade Lenin! (In ideology, not in body lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOoXdFBsWr8&feature=channel

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Main Entry: fas·cism
Pronunciation: \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date: 1921
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascist#) above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

merriam-webster

That sounds exactly like the soviet union. I thought i had the definition correct when i said the above statement so im going to stick with it and if you don't know the definition just look a few lines up.

has anyone told you recently that you're a tedious fucking cretin?

[Raúl Duke]

Comrade Anarchist,

What happened in the USSR is not fascism in any accurate ideological sense. (the conditions that brought about and maintained fascism in its different countries are different to the conditions that brought about and maintained state-capitalism/state-"socialism" in its respective countries)

The word(s) you should of used are totalitarian, totalitarianism, and/or despotic. This is the only characteristic that "Stalinism" and fascism have in common.

Personally I say he should be buried/cremated, specifically after a successful real socialist/communist revolution takes place but they can bury/cremate him now if they like.

I see no reason why he shouldn't be and feel that, in terms of ideology and propaganda, having Lenin enshrined only does more harm then good to the seriousness of his ideas and the goals he was fighting for.

[GracchusBabeuf]

The word(s) you should of used are totalitarian, totalitarianismHowever even those words were invented by imperialist writers to conflate socialism and fascism and uphold liberal capitalist democracies as the best of all the systems. This word 'totalitarian' cannot be found before 1917. Its basically a complicated way of saying whichever country dares to go out of the global imperialist capitalist system to try to be independent and establish a Marxist-Leninist dictatorship of the proletariat, they are equal to fascists. However this conveniently ignores that the liberal capitalist imperialists of the west often set up fascist regimes in places where they have control (example, Chile) along with employing overt or covert terror tactics against such left-wing regimes. So, these concepts must be analyzed from a class perspective. Using such words as totalitarian to describe working class regimes only serves the imperialist cause.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

+1

[MockDoctor]

About burying Lenin: speaking as a Russian, a Christian Russian, the day some fool decides to empty out Lenin's mausoleum and drop him six feet in the mud, I'll fly over to Russia and knock the fellow over the head with a fence post. What you non-Russians think about Lenin being buried or not couldn't matter less. Lenin was Russian and, most importantly, we Russians, along with many other folks across the world, believe that Lenin was like the second resurrection of Christ. And we treated him like Christ and we still do. Jesus Christ wasn't buried. He was tortured, crucified and then his body was put on a stone bed in a cold cave. Does that sound like a burial to you? No. People attempted to keep Jesus' body above earth, but unfortunately failed to do so. When Lenin died, people didn't want to make the same mistake again. As for Lenin writing in his testament that he wanted to be buried next to his mother, he was simply too modest and conscientious to write in his will: "Don't bury me, but preserve my body forever and ever because you know I'm a genius".

I don't know what those of you who've visited the mausoleum have felt seeing Lenin's corpse, but when I saw it, I didn't just see a dead person. I saw hope. I saw a genius, whose brilliance inspired me to try to achieve great things in life for the sake of humanity. Seeing Lenin face-to-face, so to speak, was like thanking Jesus Christ in a prayer. Thanking him for what he has done for us; the feeling of following his word is great and becomes only greater.
Keeping Lenin in a mausoleum isn't capitalist, it isn't fascist, it isn't bad, it isn't against Lenin's way of thinking or his opinion. Visiting the mausoleum is free, though some people try to cash on it by selling tickets to allow you to go inside, illegally actually, when there's no crowd. The only reason why the capitalists in Russia don't bury Lenin, is because they're scared of the mere power he has. Quite a few cases, where people who've slandered Lenin horribly die mysterious deaths or are hurt, financially or physically, have come to the capitalists' minds.
My mother ( my mother's family consists of 100% Russians, who've supported Lenin through the revolution and sacrificed their health and even lives for their country during WWII ) told me that she remembers one singer in Russia , Sergey Kurehin, who all the time made jokes about Lenin; he insulted him, mocked him and made a show about Lenin being a mushroom. One day in Finland, however, during a live open-air concert, the singer, right in the middle of his song, collapsed on stage and mysteriously died. People didn't move a finger to help him - not only did they think that it was part of his act, they also couldn't care less if he died a painful death on stage, in front of hundreds, if not thousands, of people.

Repeating my opinion: Lenin should not be buried and, quite frankly, never will be.
Whatever your opinions are, whether they are with good intentions or bad ones, we Russians will never put one foot of Lenin's in a grave.