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heiss93
14th September 2009, 22:49
I think Lenin and Stalin were right to put an end to the utopian nihilist movements of the 1920s. Still I think there is something to be said of their liberating spirit of the world turned upside down, where everything was popular, similar to the Levelers or the Jacobins, but all the more profound in a proletarian as opposed to democratic revolution. The experiments in orchestras without conductors, or the skin movement which reject clothing.

In the 1920s after the October Revolution, there was a whole series of Utopian experimentation and everyday radicalism and egalitarianism.

The type of people who would create "proletarian railways"

This book goes into a lot of depth:
http://books.google.com/books?id=IY3DfLf8owoC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_v2_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=&f=false

The Prolekult movement of the 1920s, were the type would would advocate a whole new proletarian language. I think theres something to be said of the truly transformative nature of the various currents of the 1920s, the futurists, the modernists, nihilists, Godbuilders.

All of the features that Maoists admire in the GPCR were present, including the destructive elements. But I would say in general the Russian Cultural Revolution, emphasized creative side over the destructive far more than the Red Guards did. It was about creating the new rather than destroying the old.

While their worldview was grounded in idealism, perhaps one of the failures of both Lenin and Stalin was to truly transform the consciousness of the people. IF you have met people from Russia, Eastern Europe or China, and I'm not talking about anti-Communist emigres just ordinary citizens, it is quite clear that Communist education has to a great extent failed in its task. Look how fast religion and out reactionary trends returned, or the status of women. You would never believe that there had been 80 years of socialism.

The West accuses the CPSU of too much indoctrination, it seems that they did too little.

Even if you want to blame it all on Khrushchev, you still have to ask how Lenin and Stalin allowed the CPSU to develop to a point in which shallow ideology could triumph in the first place. Most of the elite of today's Russia were former CPSU leaders, and they seem to have learned nothing of Marxism. Mao tried to combat this trend by politicizing the population with the GPCR, but one has to admit that the end result was to produce one of the most apathetic apolitical populations on the planet.

The book Revolutionary Dreams, while strongly anti-Stalinist and to a lesser extent anti-Leninist, is rather sympathetic to the aspirations of the Russian Revolution. But it really gives you a sense of the sheer creative bizarreness of that period.

History of the Greatest Conductorless Orchestra
About the famous Pervyi Sinfonicheskii Ansambl, history of the world's greatest conductorless orchestra.

SIDESHOW OF POPULAR AND OFFBEAT PERFORMING AND CREATIVE ARTISTS

Pervyi Simfonicheskii Ansambl

(1922-1932)

Conductor Otto Klemperer was once invited to lead the Pervyi Simfonicheskii Ansambl in a concert in Moscow. Midway through the program, however, Klemperer laid down his baton and took a seat in the audience, and the ensemble finished without him.

A remarkable feat on the face of it, and yet no one present was surprised in the least, for the group, known more familiarly by the abbreviation Persimfans, had been making its mark since its premiere performance in February, 1922, as the world's first and greatest conductorless orchestra. (Pervyi Simfonicheskii Ansambl means "First Symphonic Ensemble.")

"It isn't that we're opposed to conductors," the group's founder, violinist Lev Zeitlin, once remarked, "just bad conductors." But Zeitlin and company, in keeping with the egalitarian philosophy of Karl Marx, eschewed all men with batons, with the occasional exception of invited guests like Klemperer. As musicologist Nicolas Slonimsky puts it, the Persimfans "was intent on demonstrating that in a proletarian state orchestra, men do not need a musical dictator."

Indeed, the Persimfans fared admirably without a leader, although its successes came only after endless racking rehearsals and conferences during which every performer had to become familiar with the entire score. Works by Haydn, Mozart, and their contemporaries were simple enough to present few problems. But the group was challenged severely by the orchestral excesses of the Romantics and the complexities of 20th-century compositions.

Within the ensemble, a smaller committee of musicians was elected to meet regularly to decide on such intangibles as the volume, dynamics, tempo, and style of specific concert pieces. Then, at rehearsals, one of the committee members would sit in the balcony to monitor and report back on the effect.

Onstage, the group played in a circle so that each musician was plainly visible to all of his colleagues. "The utmost concentration and attention is demanded of each player, all of whom are fully conscious of their responsibility in that magic circle," the French pianist Henri Gil-Marchex, who performed with the Persimfans, once wrote. "Each member of the orchestra has his own important part to play, and glances, raising of the brow, and slight motions of the shoulders... are done by each instrumentalist, but so discreetly that the listener...seldom notices it." In January, 1927, Sergei Prokofiev appeared with the Persimfans in a program that included his Piano Concerto No. 3, as well as his orchestral suites from Chout and The Love for Three Oranges. "The conductorless orchestra coped splendidly with difficult programs and accompanied soloists as competently as any conducted orchestra," Prokofiev, who was rarely quick to praise, later said. "Their main difficulty lay in changing tempo, for here the whole ensemble had to feel the music in exactly the same way. On the other hand, the difficult passages were easily overcome, for each individual musician felt himself a soloist and played with perfect precision."

The Persimfans won worldwide acclaim throughout the 1920s and inspired imitators in Paris, Berlin, and New York. In 1927 they were named an Honored Collective by the Soviet government. Ultimately, however, dissension within the ensemble--coupled with a relaxation of the state-held view that guidance and leadership by a trained individual are always ideologically offensive--proved the group's undoing. In 1932 the Persimfans was disbanded.

Random Precision
14th September 2009, 23:26
I think it would be amiss on this topic to not mention Trotsky's thoughts on building a "proletarian culture":


...in its essence, the dictatorship of the proletariat is not an organization for the production of the culture of a new society, but a revolutionary and military system struggling for it. One must not forget this...

The bourgeoisie came into power fully armed with the culture of its time. The proletariat, on the other hand, comes into power fully armed only with the acute need of mastering culture. The problem of a proletariat which has conquered power consists, first of all, in taking into its own hands the apparatus of culture – the industries, schools, publications, press, theaters, etc. – which did not serve it before, and thus to open up the path of culture for itself...

At present, in these years of respite, some illusions may arise in our Soviet Republic as regards this. We have put the cultural questions on the order of the day. By projecting our present-day problems into the distant future, one can think himself through a long series of years into proletarian culture. But no matter how important and vitally necessary our culture building may be, it is entirely dominated by the approach of European and world revolution. We are, as before, merely soldiers in a campaign. We are bivouacking for a day. Our shirt has to be washed, our hair has to be cut and combed and, most important of all the rifle has to be cleaned and oiled. Our entire present-day economic and cultural work is nothing more than a bringing of ourselves into order between two battles and two campaigns. The principal battles are ahead and may be not so far off. Our epoch is not yet an epoch of new culture, but only the entrance to it. We must, first of all, take possession, politically, of the most important elements of the old culture, to such an extent, at least, as to be able to pave the way for a new culture...

http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1924/lit_revo/ch06.htm

I think his warnings about the futility, and indeed the danger, of trying to build a uniquely "proletarian culture" in opposition to bourgeois culture have, like so many of his other warnings, been unfortunately vindicated by history.

The proletkultists may have produced some interesting work during the twenties, but their campaign only functioned as the backdrop against which the Stalinist state was able to make itself the arbiter of "proletarian culture" and thus repress all the creativity that emerged out of the revolution. This included the silencing, repression, or even execution of the premier revolutionary writers (Isaac Babel, Yevgeny Zamyatin, Maxim Gorky), composers (Dmitri Shostakovich, Alexander Mosolov), etc. and their replacement with a shallow nationalist petty-bourgeois kitsch that they called "socialist realism".

Devrim
15th September 2009, 01:01
The proletkultists may have produced some interesting work during the twenties, but their campaign only functioned as the backdrop against which the Stalinist state was able to make itself the arbiter of "proletarian culture" and thus repress all the creativity that emerged out of the revolution.

I think that it is a bit unfair to suggest as you sort of do that they were the backdrop to the development of Stalinist ideology. Prolekult only existed until 1925, but was also being heavily critisied by the party before 1920 even. Many of it's supporters were involved in other 'political' opposition particulary the 'Workers Truth' group.

I would say that the creativity of the revolution was being repressed long before Stalin came to power though.

Devrim

Random Precision
15th September 2009, 04:28
I think that it is a bit unfair to suggest as you sort of do that they were the backdrop to the development of Stalinist ideology. Prolekult only existed until 1925, but was also being heavily critisied by the party before 1920 even. Many of it's supporters were involved in other 'political' opposition particulary the 'Workers Truth' group.

Could you refer me to some sources about this?


I would say that the creativity of the revolution was being repressed long before Stalin came to power though.

I agree.

Die Neue Zeit
15th September 2009, 06:11
I think his warnings about the futility, and indeed the danger, of trying to build a uniquely "proletarian culture" in opposition to bourgeois culture have, like so many of his other warnings, been unfortunately vindicated by history.

I don't know about this.

Like Lars Lih, I see this "state monopoly campaignism" as a belated attempt to implement the SPD's "alternative culture" model. However, what does that say about the need for an "alternative culture" in the present?

http://www.revleft.com/vb/importance-revolutionary-culture-t117374/index.html

"The pre-1914 SPD is an interesting example in this case. It strived not to be just a party, but a whole movement where working people could enjoy as well as participate in political activities. Striving to establish a proletarian culture should be a central aim in any broad working class party striving to organise the masses." (Q)

Devrim
15th September 2009, 06:14
Could you refer me to some sources about this!

Er...no. I am pretty sure that it is right, but I am just talking from memory now, and I am not sure where the information originally came from. I know there is something about it in our book, 'the Russian Communist Left'. I don't know if there are any copies in Ankara to check with though. I will ask and come back on it.

Devrim

turquino
15th September 2009, 08:40
I think his warnings about the futility, and indeed the danger, of trying to build a uniquely "proletarian culture" in opposition to bourgeois culture have, like so many of his other warnings, been unfortunately vindicated by history.Valuing artistic ‘creativity’ over a work’s political line is indicative of a bourgeois liberal worldview, in particular the idea that art’s only purpose is beauty. Trotsky seemed to hold a similar view while in exile, claiming that the total liberty of art was itself revolutionary. In contrast, communists are materialist monists and take the position that culture cannot be divorced from human class struggle. The value of a work of art is its function to the oppressed class, and that is all that matters. To forbid the dictatorship of the proletariat to take a position on culture, as Trotsky upheld, is to carve out a comfortable niche for reaction. It seems he trusted intellectuals with revolution more than he did the masses.

Dimentio
15th September 2009, 08:44
Why would culture automatically turn reactionary if left alone?

Wakizashi the Bolshevik
17th September 2009, 16:03
The creation of one "propagandist" Soviet style of art was a necessary part of the consolidation of Socialism within the USSR. Of course it wasn't very "nice" to the artists and "creativity" was not encouraged very much, but that is not very important in a time where you're trying to keep the first nation in the world in which the Proletariat has all power alive.