Questioning

[KarlMarx1989]

When one has no religion, what kind of morals and facts could they have? If someone is without religion and is at this quandary, why not consider the following:

Fact--All humans are made of the same material, therefore are equal.

Questions for basing morals--
-What kind of people are your friends?
-Do your 'friends' see you as a friend?
-What makes you happy and does it make others happy?
-What is the right thing? Does it make others happy?
-Why hide behind a facade?
-Who are you realy, under the 'mask?'

That is all I have time to put down. More to come...
Does anyone have anything inciteful to add?

[ToxicSoil]

I believe as humans we all are naturally instilled with a certain understanding of what is generally right and wrong from a very young age whether it be because of society's influence or it be because we are all, to some degree, predisposed to know and understand what is right and wrong. Then you will also have variables that will dictate your opinions on certain matters as you grow, and life takes it's toll. I think there's definitely room to hold both nature and nurture accountable for the morals and ethics we have today.

[ZeroNowhere]

Fact--All humans are made of the same material, therefore are equal.The same material? What material are you referring to? And what exactly do you mean by 'equal'? Equivalent? Because I'm fairly sure that we're not. Is it a moral judgment from the fact that we are made of the 'same material'? In that case, justify it, and it's not a 'fact'.

[VientoLibre]

I don’t differentiate between a state of possessing religion and a state of having none. It’s all matter of how you choose to accept existence. The possibilities, with a certain amount of creativity, are endless. Not to digress, but can I consider myself a Christian if I don’t believe in God? After all, I can choose to accept Jesus as a teacher, while still rejecting the omniscient God. I can also choose to accept salvation as the goal of my life, even if I don’t believe in Heaven. After all, isn’t the pursuit of Anarchy itself the pursuit of salvation? A renunciation of consumerist ideals rooted in a self destructive way of life, in order to pursuit something more humane?

I encourage you to borrow from religion, even if you aren’t religious. It’s a matter of interpretation, understanding, and the ability to embrace liberty as a means of creating purpose in a world where this is none. In this sense, I view anarchy as living art.

You pose the question: “who are you really, under the mask?”

What “mask”? If you were asking me, I would ask: is there any difference between me who’s typing and me who ‘s thinking verbal thoughts? Is me typing here about philosophy me wearing an ideological mask? Is a mask something that people are born with? Can a mask be made? Must one destroy their mask in order to build a new one?

In the sense of masks, are you, choosing to be a Marxist (as evidenced by your username), picking a theoretical mask to express an idea? Or are you an elaborate series of masks? What is a person without a mask? Are you that person?

VientoLibre

[revolution inaction]

After all, isn’t the pursuit of Anarchy itself the pursuit of salvation? A renunciation of consumerist ideals rooted in a self destructive way of life, in order to pursuit something more humane?


No, salvation is not something you do it is something done to you. And anarchism is not about rejecting consumerism.

[KarlMarx1989]

The same material? What material are you referring to?
You know; skin, blood, bones, flesh etc. I think that if we can accept the fact that we are all composed of the same thing, we can look past the differences we have regarding appearance, mental / emotional, and class.

can I consider myself a Christian if I don’t believe in God?
Yes, you can. To be christian is to follow Jesus Christ. What most people don't know, because Jesus is mostly presented as god, is that you can follow his teachings without the belief in a god.

isn’t the pursuit of Anarchy itself the pursuit of salvation?
Umm...I don't know about that. If you were to ask me about anarchy, I think that anarchy is a very unrealistic ideal and would end in disaster if achieved.

Is me typing here about philosophy me wearing an ideological mask?
No. The question is not aimed at anyone on a computer. It is more intended to ask whether or not you are being yourself.

[hefty_lefty]

Zero, everything everywhere came from the same source of materials, whether you believe in the big-bang and evolution or divine creation.
The singularity is not only our creater, but the very building blocks of our existence.

We may not be created equal in strength, intelligence or moral intergrity, but we are all equal in the right to existence? Even that could be argued.
What are we equal in?

Our genetic history? There must be more...