Communist guerillas in Mexico hijacked a plane

[Kukulofori]

and are demanding the release of comrades captured 37 years ago.

cnn's got a live stream right now.

[Muzk]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/09/09/mexico.hijacking/index.html


It has ended... peacefully. Too bad, I might say

[Oneironaut]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/09/09/mexico.hijacking/index.html


It has ended... peacefully. Too bad, I might say

What, you would rather they had crashed the plane? What makes you think that killing 104 people would somehow help our cause?

[Martin Blank]

and are demanding the release of comrades captured 37 years ago.

Where did you hear this? Link please!

[Muzk]

What, you would rather they had crashed the plane? What makes you think that killing 104 people would somehow help our cause?

Mh nah, but it would be better if they actually got what they wanted? Those US imperalists would never listen to them if they asked nicely

[black magick hustla]

i am sure highjacking civilians is communist as fuck

[Oneironaut]

Mh nah, but it would be better if they actually got what they wanted? Those US imperalists would never listen to them if they asked nicely

US imperialists would never listen to them even if they acted violently. I don't know if you know about how the US government has a policy of no negotiation with terrorists. They would have simply let the civilians die then blamed it on the 'communists'.

[Rjevan]

i am sure highjacking civilians is communist as fuck
Yes, just what I thought, this is what gets communism in the heart of the working class man and definitely helps us to overcome mainstream prejudices about our movement...

[FreeFocus]

This is an indefensible action.

[Mindtoaster]

MEXICO CITY (CNN) -- A 44-year-old Bolivian drug addict and alcoholic who describes himself as a church minister was the sole person responsible for the brief hijacking Wednesday of a commercial jetliner, a Mexican official said.

The suspect -- Jose Mar Flores -- told authorities he hijacked the Boeing 737 jet because the date -- September 9, 2009, or 9/9/9, and 666 reversed -- held some significance for him, said Genaro Garcia Luna, the secretary for public safety.

"He said that because of that divine reference he wanted to alert Mexico City of an earthquake," Garcia told reporters.

Flanked by two police officers, the suspect -- wearing a white shirt and blue jeans -- was then paraded in front of the news media. Chewing gum, he smiled.

The hijacker took control of Aeromexico Flight 576 as the jet it flew from the resort town of Cancun, telling a flight attendant he was one of three hijackers, Garcia said.

um.... I don't think he's a communist

[Jimmie Higgins]

um.... I don't think he's a communist
Yeah, on CNN they are saying he's a "religious fanatic". Although if he'd been Muslim, they would call him a top-ranking terrorist sleeper-agent.

[FreeFocus]

Yeah, on CNN they are saying he's a "religious fanatic". Although if he'd been Muslim, they would call him a top-ranking terrorist sleeper-agent.

:glare:

Good job, OP. Where'd you get the idea they were guerrillas?

[GPDP]

Kij, where did you get the idea they were communists?

[Radical]

Would you rather they did nothing about the illegal arrest of our comrades?

This idea of Pacifism running through the left is starting to make Revolution just look like a dream.

[FreeFocus]

Would you rather they did nothing about the illegal arrest of our comrades?

This idea of Pacifism running through the left is starting to make Revolution just look like a dream.

Did you read the thread genius?

No one that posted in here is a pacifist to my knowledge. I simply don't support terrorism. If, hypothetically, communist guerrillas did hijack a plane of civilians, unrelated to the incarceration of communists, what gets done? You feel good about threatening the lives of innocent people who are probably working class as well? Get a grip. If the state incarcerated comrades and you wanted them freed, target the state and its apparatuses, not civilians.

It's not rocket science. By your logic, if someone punched you in the face, you'd run up behind another person who has no relation to the person who punched you and threaten their life until the person who punched you agreed to let you get a shot on them. Ridiculous.

[Jimmie Higgins]

Would you rather they did nothing about the illegal arrest of our comrades?

This idea of Pacifism running through the left is starting to make Revolution just look like a dream.

How is saying...
"Christ is coming soon," he told reporters before being escorted off. He said that he had attached colored lights to a can and that there had been no bomb. ...doing anything for arrested guerillas?

I'm not a pacifist in any way, but if you think some lone crazy acts are good tactics for building a mass revolutionary movement, then... well Christ is coming soon to help you.

[Radical]

Did you read the thread genius?

No one that posted in here is a pacifist to my knowledge. I simply don't support terrorism. If, hypothetically, communist guerrillas did hijack a plane of civilians, unrelated to the incarceration of communists, what gets done? You feel good about threatening the lives of innocent people who are probably working class as well? Get a grip. If the state incarcerated comrades and you wanted them freed, target the state and its apparatuses, not civilians.


I do not support the hijack of "Civilian" planes. However your theory of whats "innocent" is incorrect.

"Innocent" just comes down to an opinion. It is the opinion of the majority that rich Capitalist Business men are innocent. However in my mind(And hopefully yours) they are an oppressor and are not innocent.

[OneNamedNameLess]

Would you rather they did nothing about the illegal arrest of our comrades?

This idea of Pacifism running through the left is starting to make Revolution just look like a dream.

Revolution does look like a dream at the minute until we gain mass support. This support will not be gained by blowing up the very people we are attempting to win over.

[FreeFocus]

I do not support the hijack of "Civilian" planes. However your theory of whats "innocent" is incorrect.

"Innocent" just comes down to an opinion. It is the opinion of the majority that rich Capitalist Business men are innocent. However in my mind(And hopefully yours) they are an oppressor and are not innocent.

Yeah, thing is the people probably wouldn't be "rich capitalist business men" when you're hijacking a commercial flight. It might be people going to see relatives, or going on vacation perhaps to escape the monotony of capitalism for a few days.

[Oneironaut]

I do not support the hijack of "Civilian" planes. However your theory of whats "innocent" is incorrect.

"Innocent" just comes down to an opinion. It is the opinion of the majority that rich Capitalist Business men are innocent. However in my mind(And hopefully yours) they are an oppressor and are not innocent.

Your fetish of violence which I have noticed in many of your posts is something I think you should really contemplate. Quite contrary to your belief that a revolutionary must be a cold-hearted killing machine (I can't be bothered to search your posts for the exact thread, but I assume you remember typing it), your avatar once said the the true feelings of any revolutionary are born out of love, love for one's people, not hatred for another. Do you want to know our true enemy? It isn't the bourgeoisie. It is capitalism, whom the bourgeoisie and proletariat alike are both products. We can't go running in the streets screaming for blood, we won't make any friends along the way.

[Patchd]

BBC news on tele just now said it was because someone received a divine intervention about an earthquake which was to happen at the same time as the hijacking????:confused::confused:

WTF.
EDIT: No worries, saw Mindtoaster's post :)

[Radical]

Your fetish of violence which I have noticed in many of your posts is something I think you should really contemplate. Quite contrary to your belief that a revolutionary must be a cold-hearted killing machine (I can't be bothered to search your posts for the exact thread, but I assume you remember typing it), your avatar once said the the true feelings of any revolutionary are born out of love, love for one's people, not hatred for another. Do you want to know our true enemy? It isn't the bourgeoisie. It is capitalism, whom the bourgeoisie and proletariat alike are both products. We can't go running in the streets screaming for blood, we won't make any friends along the way.


This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. - Che Guevara

If you do not understand the context in which we say it, do not ever judge the meaning.

[Bloody Armalite]

can there be revolution without firing squads, no there cannot

[Revy]

That's some nice story you concocted Kijuna, considering this was a religious nut who hijacked the plane because it was 9/9/09, not communist guerrillas. So I have to assume you made that up, or CNN made it up (and then corrected it?)

[Muzk]

Durr, I heard about this in the radio this morning. They said it was hijacked by a mentally ill person who simply wanted to kill some people. If it was like this, why would he want to talk to a president?

[Pogue]

If you do not understand the context in which we say it, do not ever judge the meaning.

Wow, you sound well up for it, shame you pulled such a bottle job at RWB.

Seriously, no one takes you seriously, your an anti-Trotskyist in the SWP for fucks sake, and you threaten to beat people up over the internet, grow up.

[Oneironaut]

If you do not understand the context in which we say it, do not ever judge the meaning.

I think it is you who have misunderstood the context. You must tell me where this revolution is that requires us to become cold blooded killing machines? It sure isn't around me. However, this thread is done with.

[#FF0000]

I just want to throw it out there that you can't have a revolution without, you know, a militant and organized working class.

I mean if you want to run around playing Che Guevara in the woods you can. Just don't think you're really doing anything.

[Aurora]

This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. - Che Guevara
Where did you get this quote? I googled it and it comes up with stormfront, cuban exile websites and a whole bunch of other crap, wikipedia says its quoted in a book by one of "America’s largest providers of strategic services related to Cuba"

[cb9's_unity]

can there be revolution without firing squads, no there cannot

Why?

[Comrade B]

So... the guy turned out to be a religious nut... why is this thread still here?

[KurtFF8]

So essentially the OP of this thread just randomly made up the fact that it was a "Communist" who hijacked the plane? Interesting.

The title of this thread needs revising.

[The Red Next Door]

That was a coo coo for coca puffs satanist that hijack that plane from Bolivia by the way.