Mein Kampf - I just started

[anti machine]

I've been getting alot of shit from my fellow peers for embarking upon Hitler's "Mein Kampf", the Nazi Bible written by Hitler in prison. I explain to them, and to all, that in order to fight the enemy you must understand how his mind works. None can argue that Hitler was not a genius, but I am interested as to his thought processes and gaining insight into his motives.

[Ian]

Hitler was not a genius, he honestly believed that Australians and New Zealanders walked on all fours and lived in the trees, I kid you not!
Anyone that believes in killing someone because of their racial ancestry is not a genius, he is a sonofa******.

Rommel may be called a genius because of how he trained his Afrikacorps and weeded out the Nazis to leave a corps of true gentlemen, Rommel wasn't a nazi you see. Rommel was even a supporter of a embryonic plot to remove Hitler at the end of the war, Hitler put a bullet in his head before anyone else could though.


*not to be gender specific (can you tell I'm a propagandhi fan :P )

[ComradeJunichi]

I don't get why you'd read Meine Kampf. A crazy man who wrote somethign in prison. I don't get anything about that book. Why don't you read about books that state why communism is wrong, and such. You'll get a better basis of anti-commie arguments.

[boadicea88]

Yeah, I'm probably gonna make more waves here, but I'm thinking I'll read Mein Kampf also.

[oconner]

i read it...it is very difficult to read and is basically just ramblings

[Ian]

He is a fucking idiot, his prose style is worse (in my mind) than that of an eight year old

[new democracy]

i have no idea why you read it. hitler was a genius when it came to running a country and being a dictator, but his ideology was full of shit. you want to understand nazis? learn this: they are undebatable. every time that you show pictures from concentration camps they will say something like "this is just a lie by the jewish controlled media" or some shit like this. and the ones that actually acknowledge the nazi crimes are complete idiots. just a bunch of dogs.

[Tuxie]

Isn't Mein Kampf forbidden?Our history teacher said that Hitlers books are iligal.

[kingbee]

not banned- only in some countries, mainly on the european mainland i think. i read it in a history lesson (obv not all of it lol) and 1) it was boring jargon 2) it was bollox. anyway, goebbels actually wrote it... he was writing what hitler was dictating

[truthaddict11]

Quote: from Tuxie on 10:23 pm on Nov. 8, 2002
Isn't Mein Kampf forbidden?Our history teacher said that Hitlers books are iligal.


i found one in a fucking chain bookstore
if you want to get the enemy perspective read J Edgar Hovvers book on communism and why he thinks its evil

[Dan Majerle]

Mein Kampf is also a book i've been wanting to read and told my dad to buy it for me for christmas and he responded that he didn't want that book in his house! I still want to read it though, it sounds interesting.
Also it was Hess who wrote down what Hitler dictated to him in prison, not Goebbels. :)

[Tuxie]

Since I live in Europe,I guess that my teacher was right and it is forbidden,because I have been in alot of bookstores and no one has it.

[Hayduke]

Quote: from anti machine on 5:56 am on Nov. 8, 2002
I've been getting alot of shit from my fellow peers for embarking upon Hitler's "Mein Kampf", the Nazi Bible written by Hitler in prison. I explain to them, and to all, that in order to fight the enemy you must understand how his mind works. None can argue that Hitler was not a genius, but I am interested as to his thought processes and gaining insight into his motives.


Comrade,

We have the orignal version of Hitlers book at home, and I took
a moment to read a few chapters. Its absolute garbage.

The only thing that its based on is hate and anger.
Its not worth reading and it also doesnt gives you a better
view of your enemy.

if you want to do that I suggest you check forums like:

www.***************/forum/

They give you a better idea of your enemy.
Then again maybe better isnt theright word.

Hitler being a genious ?
I guess you have been reading that book for WAY to long.

[canikickit]

Stormfront is the most ridiculous forum on the planet.

[Tuxie]

Yeah,it's the new definition of idiocy.

[Revolution Hero]

This shit is forbidden over my place, and I don't advise anybody to read it.
Hitler was sick. Don't read the works of the sick man.

I haven't read Main Kampf and I would never read it, as I don't read the books, which don't contain any intelligent ideas.
And I can successfully criticize any Nazi without reading Hitler's bullshit.

[Hayduke]

Quote: from Tuxie on 4:46 am on Nov. 10, 2002
Yeah,it's the new definition of idiocy.


I know but's a whole lot better then Hitlers book.

[anti machine]

"Hitler being a genious ?
I guess you have been reading that book for WAY to long."

First of all, Hitler examines Marxism and even calls it one of the great two evils, the other being jewry. There's the "other perspective" for you.

None can argue that he was not a genius. Who else could have found willing, numerous tools to carry out his absurd genocide? He conjured up Blitzkrieg warfare and, were it not for one single tactical mistake, namely turning on Stalin, the swastika would be flying high today. I simply wanted to understand Hitler, the man, and what situations made him who he was. I'm not reading it to develop a better grasp on communism, this is not the sole reason why one should read literature. It is a mere psychological endeavor, the exploration of Hitler's mind. It is intriuging and apparently moving, for this book changed the world as we know it. It should not be cast down as "garbage", just as an athiest should not disregard the Bible as "garbage". Both books have made an enormous impact on society and the lives of those around us. I believe it should be read.

[truthaddict11]

he was a man of hate pure and simple that book was writen with hate. read anti-communist books instead.

[anti machine]

"he was a man of hate pure and simple that book was writen with hate. read anti-communist books instead."

Is this your response to everyting, truthaddict?

The manifesto, Mao's little red book, Lenin's essays, Guerrilla Warfare: all written from hate.

I will not spend my life reading anti-communist books, thank you. I wish to strenghten my understanding of a powerful mind that inspired so many to commit acts of atrocity. As a firm believer in sociology, I think this book is perhaps the most relevant, to analyze Hitler's influences and environment and how these aspects of society created this man. It is key in embracing communism, as it is the goalof communism to create a near-perfect society, and thus an honest human nature and will. Learn from the German society's mistakes, don't let it happen again.

"If we forget the past (or, say I, refuse to understand it), it will repeat itself".

[anti machine]

furthermore, I find it appalling that any of you would discourage a well-founded individual from reading a book, no matter what the subject material. This is literature, this is one of the best-selling books of all time, and you tell me not to read it because it is "garbage" and doesn't help me in my quest for communism. I think you should re-analyze your beliefs.

[canikickit]

I agree with you. Have you got the book yet? It's available on line, but I don't know where.

[anti machine]

Yes I am currently reading it, as of last Sunday. It turns out Hitler's prose isn't too bad, Ian, but it is interesting to see him rank marxism right up there next to Jewry as a world evil. He praises youth and even the worker.

From a very early age he decided that Austrians and Germans alike should unite under the same flag, and that those who were not of German descent should not live. From this notion in his childhood he embraced Deutsch Nationalism and condemned the available scapegoats. All because of a simple childhood thought.

Thank you canikickit.

[Revolution Hero]

Don't waste your time, anti machine. You better read Engels's "Anti - During" or Lenin's "State and revolution".

[anti machine]

Those are on my reading list, revolution hero. Thank you. I'm not wasting my time. I will have a better understanding of Hitler by the time I am finished, which is my goal.

[El Brujo]

You could find Mein Kamph anywhere down here. I saw multiple copies in Barns & Noble in my last visit there. I have been tempted to pick it up and read it but as much as I find a morbid interest in looking into sick people's minds (hence, serial killer books), I was discouraged after having read "The Fall Of Berlin" and seen what a complete and utter maniac Hitler was. This isn't the "smart" kind of insane, believe me, and Im not surprised that somebody mentioned it being mostly ramblings.

[MegatroN]

Hitler was a genius when it came to public speaking, but the Germans were vulnerable at the time. Necessity breeds unity.

[anti machine]

The rise of Hitler is an excellent example in the argument against "pure democracy". Don't forget that the German people voted him into power.

[suffianr]

Sorry, but I really think it's a huge fucking waste of time reading Nazi books because they are all wankers. Mein Kampf has no literary value beyond getting acquainted with the inner workings of a certified loonybin.

Yes, yes, know your enemy, blah, blah, blah, but I wouldn't even wipe my arse with any page from that book, let alone read it...

I don't want to understand Nazism, I don't want to understand Hitler and I don't want to know what crap he came up with. I'll let my ignorance sheperd my anger.

[I Will Deny You]

Quote: from suffianr on 1:03 am on Nov. 17, 2002
Mein Kampf has no literary value beyond getting acquainted with the inner workings of a certified loonybin.I read Mein Kampf and was very interested by it. We read a passage of it in a high school history class and it got me interested in reading the rest. Maybe it was a waste of time . . . but I'm still glad that I read it. This probably won't make any sense, but it gave me an odd sense of closure.

Lindsay

[Menshevik]

It's an interesting book, but my the second volume, it turns into a whole lot of psycho-babble nonsense--a truly fucked up masterpiece.

[thursday]

It's not banned in most countries, however the bookstore chain Chapters did ban it.

[Wenty]

rommel didn't plot against hitler he just didn't agree with the racial issue. He was such a fav of hitler that he said he could swallow poison and spare his families humiliation and subsequent death too. Mein Kampf is very dense, 721 pgs of babble basically, he uses words out of context and his prose is hard to understand i think. Its even available in my local library...

[Lefty]

i have read meine kampf, and all i can say about it was that hitler was a sick man. The fact that he persuaded millions to follow him (and still does, oddly) speaks volumes about the power of using propaganda, peer pressure, and threats to control people.

[apathy maybe]

I have not seen a copy in all my wanderings, I hadn't even thought of reading it, however, after reading this thread I think I shall try and find a copy on the Internet (where I found my copy of The Communist Manifesto and Machiavelli's The Prince).
Just found two copies http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/
http://www.***************/books/mein_kampf/