View Full Version : Where would I go in Britain - follow up to my journey at 16
Bloody Armalite
9th September 2009, 11:22
All of you who read my plans for my journey and said it was too dangerous, where could i go and be submerged in utter poverty in the uk and write about my experiences to highlight the exploited and truly desperate.
I live in salford which is supposed to be pretty rough and crime ridden, but its nothing like harrowing poverty.
Send me a journey of the uk i could go on and find the most affected areas, along with a map pic plz.
thanks for the advice comrades
bellyscratch
9th September 2009, 11:43
All of you who read my plans for my journey and said it was too dangerous, where could i go and be submerged in utter poverty in the uk and write about my experiences to highlight the exploited and truly desperate.
I live in salford which is supposed to be pretty rough and crime ridden, but its nothing like harrowing poverty.
Send me a journey of the uk i could go on and find the most affected areas, along with a map pic plz.
thanks for the advice comrades
Apparently these are the 10 most deprived rural areas in Britain
1. Easington, County Durham
2. Sedgefield , Stockton-on-tees,
3. Wansbeck, Northumberland
4. Kerrier, Cornwall
5. Tendring, Clacton-on-sea, Essex
6. Blyth Valley, Northumberland
7. Bassetlaw, Nottinghamshire
8. North Devon
9. King's Lynn and West Norfolk
10. North Lincolnshire
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3708345/The-top-ten-most-deprived-areas-of-Britain.html
Apparently these are the 10 most deprived parliamentary constituencies areas in Britain
1) Glasgow Shettleston
2) Glasgow Springburn
3) Glasgow Maryhill
4) Birmingham Ladywood
5) Manchester Central
6) Camberwell and Peckham
7) Glasgow Baillieston
8) Liverpool Riverside
9) Hackney South/Shoreditch
10) Bethnal Green and Bow
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1826411.stm
Bloody Armalite
9th September 2009, 11:47
thanks
Sugar Hill Kevis
9th September 2009, 11:52
King's Lynn is kinda rough, but I'm not sure I'd describe it as 'harrowing' there... Salford is probably worse.
There is some pretty heavy rural poverty out in West Norfolk, but again 'submerging' yourself in it is a bit awkward since it's mostly small villages with nowhere for you to stay... the best you could probably do is take a country walk, at which point it just becomes a relaxing afternoon rather than a political journey. I actually recommend that, rather than 'suffering for the sake of it'.
Pogue
9th September 2009, 12:09
This is more ridiculous than the last attempt. I'm sorry but what do you really intend to do? Walk around and see a struggling single mother in a council flat trying to feed her kids? Sit over the road spying on her? Ask her if you can come in and bask in her poverty?
Maybe you'll go to a jobcentre and look at how pissed off we all look going in and how we have the same look of disappointment when we leave? How interesting and inpsiring. I'm sorry but this is just a ridiculous idea, it stinks of pretentiousness, if you wanna see exploitation go hand out some CVs and see the response you get, or just find work.
I really don't see what you intend to do that would be so inspiring. The Latin America idea was ridiculous, badly thought out and immature but understandable, most of us have had the Latin America fantasies since we first read a Che biography, look at Radical, he even talks like he's some sort of guerilla, but this idea is dum, its unworkable. As I said what would you even do. Just go to a local Tescos or factory and you'll see the reality. I just don't see how you intend to go to a deprived area and 'realise poverty'. It's odd and pretenitous.
Bloody Armalite
9th September 2009, 12:21
ive told you why i am doing this journey through the Americas, and i am still doing it, i was just seeing on this thread where all you moaners think i should go.
When orwell did the same was he being stupid, was che to write about the subject of communism, it is good to have experienced the worst of capitalism.
Whats your problem, or are you just a bitter and cynical armchair warrior who dosent want anyone to gain more political knowledge than youself.
Saorsa
9th September 2009, 12:46
You don't gain political experience through this kind of poverty tourism mate. Why not join a revolutionary group in your area and get active at home rather than day dreaming of some wonderful heroic journey.
You've mentioned Che a few times... when confronted by some US radical students going on a solidarity trip to Cuba who asked "what's the most important thing we can do to support the revolution in Latin America", he said "work on making revolution in the US".
Think that over.
Patchd
9th September 2009, 13:03
Peckham and Camberwell, Bethnal Green, Greenwich, Swansea, Glasgow, Oldham, former pit villages ... obviously people won't be living in subsistence like some would in South America, but you won't be able to experience poverty here either unless you are part of it instead of just travelling around to experience it.
If you are going to travel to South America still, do it because you want to travel, not because you want to experience poverty, poverty isn't something you should seek, but is something you should destroy.
Bloody Armalite
9th September 2009, 13:09
i would join one but they have banned me and gave me ot=ver to the cops for emails i said about some stuff, the only one left is the revolutionary communist party of britain and they are in london i am in manchester:(
Patchd
9th September 2009, 13:13
i would join one but they have banned me and gave me ot=ver to the cops for emails i said about some stuff, the only one left is the revolutionary communist party of britain and they are in london i am in manchester:(
A 'Communist' Party handed your name over to the cops? What. The. Fuck.
Which organisation was this? Also, don't just look at the names of an organisation and join it, the name is usually very deceptive, especially on the left. Take the Labour party for example, not a working class party.
Bloody Armalite
9th September 2009, 14:21
it was the socialist party who told the cops about emails with plots in them, i had cid at my house and the anti terror unit:(.
ls
9th September 2009, 14:27
Fucking hell, at everything on this thread.
Patchd
9th September 2009, 14:30
it was the socialist party who told the cops about emails with plots in them, i had cid at my house and the anti terror unit:(.
Sorry to hear that, no surprise though given that the SP regard the cops as 'workers in uniform'.
Bloody Armalite
9th September 2009, 14:36
so what party are you in comrade.
Led Zeppelin
9th September 2009, 14:42
When orwell did the same was he being stupid,
Orwell had no choice. If you read Down And Out In Paris and London he'll describe how he ended up in those places, and how often he wished he hadn't.
Actually, I think that's a great book for you to read if you want to understand poverty better because it's beautifully explained in great detail in it.
I think that the reason members here are sort of hostile towards your plans is because you want to experience poverty out of choice, while there are billions of people out there who are forced to experience it and would want nothing more than to not do so.
Also, dropping out can come back to bite you in the ass later in life (I know from experience) so I really suggest you do your best to try to get back in school.
nuisance
9th September 2009, 14:46
This isn't for real, surely?
KC
9th September 2009, 14:46
Sorry to hear that, no surprise though given that the SP regard the cops as 'workers in uniform'.
He said he was going to plant a fertilizer bomb and murder a ton of people...
Pogue
9th September 2009, 14:48
This isn't for real, surely?
You do remember BPSocialist, don't you?
nuisance
9th September 2009, 14:50
You do remember BPSocialist, don't you?
My ex has met him! :cool:
Pogue
9th September 2009, 14:51
My ex has met him! :cool:
oh my god, please pm me the details, i really want to hear what he is like
Bloody Armalite
9th September 2009, 15:41
orwell was from an upper middle class family, he traded all his stuff in for a tramp kit to experience what the masses felt.
his work was the first political thin i ever read, and it saved my life and brought me to socialism, i write, and that is what i want to write about, so to really understand it, and why more to the point we need communism rather than just reading about it.
Pogue
9th September 2009, 15:50
orwell was from an upper middle class family, he traded all his stuff in for a tramp kit to experience what the masses felt.
his work was the first political thin i ever read, and it saved my life and brought me to socialism, i write, and that is what i want to write about, so to really understand it, and why more to the point we need communism rather than just reading about it.
Once more, alot of the members of this community, myself included, come from working class families, we experience wage slavery, alot of us have some stories to tell, not everyone has it easy as I guess you think we do based on your own experiences, my mum was born homeless and has worked her whole life, do you think thats not exploitation or something? Do you think we're not revolutionary enoguh because we risk our low paid jobs organising in them? Or perhaps us anti-fascists don't risk enough when we risk getting our heads kicked in or thrown in the nick as again, alot of this forum's members do. Maybe our life as members of the working class isn't hard enough. Perhaps I am enjoying practically begging somewhere to exploit my labour for 4 quid an hour a bit too much and should go patronise some working class comrades in Bolivia by getting FUNDING to FLY to this poorer country and working there to 'be revolutionary'. Because moving from workplace to workplace for personal experience is very useful and revolutionary isn't it. Fuck organising your own workplace.
Once more we've suggested what you should do. Join a group where you are, travel for fun, or with friends. I have mates active in revolutionary politics who have been to Palestine, Mexico, China, etc, doing revolutionary solidarity work. Thats a cool thing to do mainly because its actually realistic unlike your ridiculous plan. Stop all of this stuff about us being passive or whatever, about wanting to see exploitation because its really patronising. Alot of us live in these areas where you see people struggling mate, and to those of us who don't, should we feel guilty? I was born in one of those typical Livepudlian style terrace houses, tiny, as I said my mum was born homeless and my Dad in one of the poorest areas of the country, maybe you should come and experience what we have? Also do you think people who aren't living in piss and filth are not exploited or are passive or not working class enough for you? My parents came from their origins and worked hard for 40 years of solid work, 8 hours a day everyday, to buy a house that manages to suit our needs better, am I not working class enough? Is my exploitation enoguh for you? I'm sure some of the Latin Americans you meet will also have perhaps an I-pod or buy Coca Cola or whatever. Will that disappoint you?
My point is you have an naive and unrealistic view of the working class and what creates political conciousness that comes across as offensive and will also lead to your disillusionment if you don't really think about it properly so just think about it.
Patchd
9th September 2009, 15:58
Fucking double post load of bollocks.
Patchd
9th September 2009, 15:58
He said he was going to plant a fertilizer bomb and murder a ton of people...
Did you try and unconvince him first? (<-genuine question) If a member of the AF said they'll do that to innocent working class people, I'd hope me and a few others would go over and twat em beforehand as opposed to simply handing that authority to the state.
so what party are you in comrade.
Also, I'm not in a party, parties suck, I'm in a propaganda, theoretical and agitational group.
KC
9th September 2009, 16:01
Did you try and unconvince him first? (<-genuine question) If a member of the AF said they'll do that to innocent working class people, I'd hope me and a few others would go over and twat em beforehand as opposed to simply handing that authority to the state.
I had nothing to do with it, seeing as we're talking about SPEW and I'm in Milwaukee...
Patchd
9th September 2009, 16:06
I had nothing to do with it, seeing as we're talking about SPEW and I'm in Milwaukee...
Ma bad, either way, I've strayed off topic, sorry.
AlMack
9th September 2009, 16:13
bloody armalite emailed the SP with a conspiracy to blow up nick griffin. they assumed it was a BNP ploy for some 'Reds in murder conspiracy' headlines. The guy who he emailed has been troubled as fuck by this but felt he had no choice but to go to the police to cover his own back. i also agreed it was most likely someone acting under BNP orders. his emails have been erratic claiming he was going to join the army and start revolutionary warfare christ
nuisance
9th September 2009, 16:15
He has also been asking for peoples details over revleft. Sketchy as fuck.
Patchd
9th September 2009, 16:17
bloody armalite emailed the SP with a conspiracy to blow up nick griffin. they assumed it was a BNP ploy for some 'Reds in murder conspiracy' headlines. The guy who he emailed has been troubled as fuck by this but felt he had no choice but to go to the police to cover his own back. i also agreed it was most likely someone acting under BNP orders. his emails have been erratic claiming he was going to join the army and start revolutionary warfare christ
Ah right, thanks for the answers, think I understand the situation a bit better now.
Also what Edelweiss said.
AlMack
9th September 2009, 16:37
for the cypriot comrade on the other thread: you wouldnt risk getting charged with being complicit in conspiracy to murder just to prove your anti-police/state credentials, especially when you think the person sending these emails is a fascist trying to land you in trouble. anti-terror laws over here are fucked
reddevil
9th September 2009, 18:34
Why did u call the police? This guy's just a stupid kid. I doubt very much there is any public threat from him.
reddevil
9th September 2009, 18:45
About a year ago I wrote a post about the iraqi resistance claiming it would be great if instead of the jihadists and nationalists there was a worker's militia and that i'd donate to it if I could. Naturally, this post was stupid to make and i have since deleted it for fear of action but.. come on. It was just an immature fantasy of mine. In the real world I am as quiet and law abiding as everybody else and I'm sure amalite is too. Try not to get so paranoid.
Bloody Armalite
9th September 2009, 19:34
there are alot of cops on this site how else u know bout the army.
Also i only sent it because they advocate revolution on the phone, yet cover their ass online.
I am not a mad bomber for fucks sake.
Pirate turtle the 11th
9th September 2009, 19:38
Ok your sixteen and want to wreck your life probably so you can go back onto revleft and tell everyone how they are wrong in a montypython style prole off.
My advice to you is to get a kid , cut your limbs off somehow become a black gay women and to ask people to hit you with a brick just incase your revolutionary purity hasnt been maximised.
:rolleyes:
Leftism is not puritanism.
The Ungovernable Farce
9th September 2009, 20:12
Jarvis Cocker wins this thread (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMg8V3nGNuY).
Bloody Armalite
9th September 2009, 20:25
Almack who the fuck are you, are you one of the cops from last week
Jazzratt
9th September 2009, 20:30
:laugh: Oh wow.
Sam_b
9th September 2009, 21:06
What the fuck is going on here, then?
Some moron call up the SPEW and say he was going to bomb things? My, what a revolutionary. By that I mean 'eejit'.
Dr Mindbender
9th September 2009, 21:11
By that I mean 'eejit'.
was that an anti-irish punt?
Pirate Utopian
9th September 2009, 21:13
My ex has met him! :cool:
Was it at a big lefty get together?
Magdalen
9th September 2009, 21:24
What the fuck is going on here, then?
Some moron call up the SPEW and say he was going to bomb things? My, what a revolutionary. By that I mean 'eejit'.
You've hit the nail on the head there. :thumbup1:
I'm not denying that the Socialist Party's decision to call the police on Bloody Armalite was wrong and anti-leftist, and is certainly symptomatic of their view of policemen and prison officers as 'workers in uniform'. But that doesn't make him any less of an eejit for making such a mad call in the first place.
was that an anti-irish punt?
I'm confused, what does the word 'eejit' have to do with being anti-Irish? It means 'idiot', and I've heard it used by plenty Irishmen.
Sam_b
9th September 2009, 21:29
was that an anti-irish punt?
:rolleyes:
Dr Mindbender
9th September 2009, 21:29
I'm confused, what does the word 'eejit' have to do with being anti-Irish? It means 'idiot', and I've heard it used by plenty Irishmen.
you answered your own question with the last part of the sentence.
Dr Mindbender
9th September 2009, 21:31
:rolleyes:
no chance of a multi-syllabic answer then?
Until i get one i'll take it as a yes.
Magdalen
9th September 2009, 21:33
you answered your own question with the last part of the sentence.
I'm still confused about what you mean. I said it's word commonly used in Ireland, which is also commonly used in Scotland, and probably in other places to. :lol:
Pogue
9th September 2009, 21:34
Yet another example of Sam b's clear unfettered discrimination against the Irish, why does he not just stop with his blatant predjudice already. :rolleyes:
Dr Mindbender
9th September 2009, 21:36
I'm still confused about what you mean. I said it's word commonly used in Ireland, which is also commonly used in Scotland, and probably in other places to. :lol:
I honestly dont know if it's used in Scotland tbh. I dont really care either. It concerns me in the same way that it would if someone greeted a mexican poster with something equivalent like ''eh, gringo!'' in that sort of snidey chavinist matter. It also bothers me when GB mainlanders use such tactless euphanisms when responding to threads made by members with INLA avatars.
ls
9th September 2009, 21:42
I honestly dont know if it's used in Scotland tbh. I dont really care either. It concerns me in the same way that it would if someone greeted a mexican poster with something equivalent like ''eh, gringo!'' in that sort of snidey chavinist matter. It also bothers me when GB mainlanders use such tactless euphanisms when responding to threads made by members with INLA avatars.
You ought to come calm down, I doubt Sam_b of all people would make an 'anti-irish punt' when he is usually telling people off for saying ****.
Dr Mindbender
9th September 2009, 21:43
You ought to come calm down, I doubt Sam_b of all people would make an 'anti-irish punt' when he is usually telling people off for saying ****.
yes but i have Sam marked as a habitual hypocrite anyway.
Sam_b
9th September 2009, 21:47
no chance of a multi-syllabic answer then?
Until i get one i'll take it as a yes.
It hadn't even crossed my mind that the OP in this thread was Irish, and nor it shouldn't. Apparently by accentiating a word in a Scottish accent I have made this into an 'anti-Irish punt'. Of course, this is flowery language, so I'll re-word it with what US actually means:
Using the word 'eejit' infers that I am being racist towards Irish people.
This is pure nonsense. However, I await with baited breath the thread in the CC calling for a warning point or whatever. If you're actually serious about what you say here, then have the gumption to follow it up and push for administrative action against me. Go on.
Dr Mindbender
9th September 2009, 21:58
It hadn't even crossed my mind that the OP in this thread was Irish, and nor it shouldn't. Apparently by accentiating a word in a Scottish accent I have made this into an 'anti-Irish punt'. Of course, this is flowery language, so I'll re-word it with what US actually means:
Being versed in the scots tounge myself I don't accept that at all .Its common knowledge on both sides of the water that the word 'eejit' is synomonous with the characatured irish stereotype in the same vein as 'by jaysus' or 'top o' the mornin'.
Using the word 'eejit' infers that I am being racist towards Irish people.
This is pure nonsense. However, I await with baited breath the thread in the CC calling for a warning point or whatever. If you're actually serious about what you say here, then have the gumption to follow it up and push for administrative action against me. Go on.
Well there isnt much point anyway, since this particular chauvinism along with transphobia et all seems to be one of the more accepted flavours of reactionary baggage in the CC these days.
Instead i'll add this incidence to my imaginary list of reasons of why i think you're a pompous dick, and i sincerely hope others do the same.
Good night.
Sam_b
9th September 2009, 22:00
What an absolute cop-out, you coward.
Its common knowledge on both sides of the water that the word 'eejit' is synomonous with the characatured irish stereotype in the same vein as 'by jaysus' or 'top o' the mornin'.
This is absolute bollocks. For a former moderator I would have thought if such an upstanding member like yourself saw prejudice and discriminatory language you would rightly involve other forces to make sur eit is stamped out. Quite hypocritical of a leftist if you see wrong and then don't take action on it, surely? The reason you won't do it is because you'll get laughed out of the CC, and rightly so. This is as bad as the time you tried to get Bobkindles labelled as a sexist because he couldn't believe you were married. Hilarious.
Dr Mindbender
9th September 2009, 22:02
Oh, and proof that youre talking shit (http://www.dsl.ac.uk/).
What an absolute cop-out, you coward.
at least im not a latent xenophobe.
Sam_b
9th September 2009, 22:10
http://www.squidoo.com/scottishwords
Eejit - idiot
http://wikitravel.org/en/Glasgow
"Eejit" - an impolite term for a person who has done an incredibly stupid thing
http://www.britannia.org/scotland/scotsdictionary/e.shtml
eejit:
In Scotland (and Ireland) an eejit is an idiot.
Beat it, ya big eejit ya!
...There ought to be stronger measures taken to ban such eejits from being anywhere near guns.
Sam_b
9th September 2009, 22:11
So, in short, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
When do I get my apology about your lies? Or will you run off and pretend this never happened?
Magdalen
9th September 2009, 22:40
Being versed in the scots tounge myself I don't accept that at all .Its common knowledge on both sides of the water that the word 'eejit' is synomonous with the characatured irish stereotype in the same vein as 'by jaysus' or 'top o' the mornin'.
Sam's right, that's false - pure and simple. I have used the word 'eejit' all of my life, and have never associated it with any sort of anti-Irish sentiment. To call Sam a 'xenophobe' is ludicrous. In Scotland, and indeed, to the majority of Irish people I have met, the word 'eejit' has nothing to do with being anti-Irish.
Sam_b
9th September 2009, 22:45
To ram the point home a bit more, Magdalen's organisation has been one of the most vocal and agitational groups with regards to anti-Irish prejudice and British imperialism in Ireland, and I doubt he would stand for any genuine prejudiced language in his presence on this subject. I would also add that if I was apparently so xenophobic against Irish people I would be going completely against my party's principles and writings on the issue of Irish republicanism.
This may be perceived as some as attempting to cover my own back, but I don't see why this is a bad thing when I'm being accused of such a serious claim.
KC
9th September 2009, 23:21
Why haven't these two stupid threads been trashed or moved to Chit Chat yet, anyways? :confused:
Sam_b
9th September 2009, 23:31
This is in chit-chat.
Mindtoaster
10th September 2009, 00:22
This thread is epic
AlMack
10th September 2009, 00:30
why did u call the police? This guy's just a stupid kid. I doubt very much there is any public threat from him.
for the last time his emails had all the hallmarks of a bnp/state agent provocateur.
Do you understand this? We are in shock that this kid is for real.
OneNamedNameLess
10th September 2009, 00:49
Being versed in the scots tounge myself I don't accept that at all .Its common knowledge on both sides of the water that the word 'eejit' is synomonous with the characatured irish stereotype in the same vein as 'by jaysus' or 'top o' the mornin'.
What in fuck's name are you talking about? We use it in Scotland all the time. I believe it was initially used in Ireland but as Sam said we use it in the same sense as idiot.
Btw, for the record, if US's statement above is correct, then the word eejit should not be permitted if it has anti Irish connotations. It's just the same as the n word then is it not? The Irish were/are an exploited group.
See where we are now? This ridiculous Revleft political correctness thing.
So Sam, if you use the word eejit in a certain context it is not a 'characatured irish stereotype'? Ring any bells? :rolleyes:
Sam_b
10th September 2009, 00:56
So Sam, if you use the word eejit in a certain context it is not a 'characatured irish stereotype'? Ring any bells?
What a bullshit rationale. The word 'eejit' is not a word of prejudice and is not inherently prejudiced. The word 'c*nt' is. But I'm hardly surprised you take this line after your defence of racism and 'p*ki shops'.
Il Medico
10th September 2009, 01:00
Really? US is claiming that eejit is racist? What a load of crap. Eejit means idiot. Don't see how calling some Guevara kiddie an idiot is racist.
mykittyhasaboner
10th September 2009, 01:10
i decided to post in this wonderfully enlightening thread.
Il Medico
10th September 2009, 01:26
i decided to post in this wonderfully enlightening thread.
Congratulations. Would you like a medal or a chest to pin it on?
EDIT: Sorry couldn't resist Mykitty.
scarletghoul
10th September 2009, 01:42
:lol:
OneNamedNameLess
10th September 2009, 02:04
What a bullshit rationale. The word 'eejit' is not a word of prejudice and is not inherently prejudiced. The word 'c*nt' is. But I'm hardly surprised you take this line after your defence of racism and 'p*ki shops'.
I am not defending racism. I am defending people's right to say whatever the fuck they want so long as they don't mean it in a certain way.
Anyways, yeah, great thread.
Uncle Hank
10th September 2009, 02:20
Oh, wow, by far the most entertaining thread on RevLeft I've seen in a while. Maybe I need to look harder but this is just priceless. :laugh:
Sam_b
10th September 2009, 02:23
am not defending racism. I am defending people's right to say whatever the fuck they want so long as they don't mean it in a certain way.
"I live in a neighbourhood full of n*ggers, but they're nice people"
:rolleyes:
spiltteeth
10th September 2009, 03:11
Well, I don't want to pour gasoline on the fire BUT 'eejit' is a horrible term I've often heard toothless racists with a lisp make when referring to 'egypt.'
Many 'eejitions,' as I'm sure you racistly refer to them Sam b, are in fact oppressed people.
bcbm
10th September 2009, 03:13
here we go again
to the op: get a job
Wanted Man
10th September 2009, 07:09
Well, I don't want to pour gasoline on the fire BUT 'eejit' is a horrible term I've often heard toothless racists with a lisp make when referring to 'egypt.'
Many 'eejitions,' as I'm sure you racistly refer to them Sam b, are in fact oppressed people.
What are you talking about, n00b-bot? What does Egypt have to do with anything? Please google something before trying to talk about it.
Anyway, perhaps revolutionaries should go into Glasgow and tell the people that they can't say "eejit" anymore because it is racist. :rolleyes:
spiltteeth
10th September 2009, 07:15
n00b-bot? I don't know what that is.
Try googling a dry sense of humor though.
Bloody Armalite
10th September 2009, 09:48
almack, is your name peternorth
why did you do that to me
AlMack
10th September 2009, 10:47
no, peter north is a porn stars name.
Understand this, people saw your emails & thought you were BNP or someone from the state. if you ring someone up & immediately start asking what they are doing anti-BNP wise, they will become suspiscious. They have to be, as they get bnp trying it on all the time. salford BNP arent exactly geniuses.
talking about conspiracy to blow up people will get a man held on some 28 days anti-terror business. it is the sort of thing BNP would say to get someone in shit, complicit on conspiracy to murder.
the lad you sent them to initially was shitting himself, didnt know what to do. so he forwarded them on.
your earlier emails that were forwarded to ppl were suspect. they were erratic. you cant say youre gonna join the army & instigate revolutionary guerilla warfare one minute, change your mind & cancel the fitness test the next day for a complete change of direction, then say you want to make a martyr of griffin, then that you 'were only messing'. can you not see how that seems odd to people at least?
Do you understand this? This is your own fault. Accept that & move on, it is done with now. Noone thinks youre a dickhead, just naive or you need to talk to someone.
Bloody Armalite
10th September 2009, 11:17
Yeah, that guy gave me the adress of where he works.
Might go see him and thank him for phoning the cops on me.
Bloody Armalite
10th September 2009, 11:18
he sounds like a real socialist:(
Sam_b
10th September 2009, 11:24
Honestly, in what mind did you think it was a good idea at all? Calling up people and inciting conspiracy to murder? Stop trying to blame other people.
AlMack
10th September 2009, 11:27
Understand this, people saw your emails & thought you were BNP or someone from the state.
Understand this, people saw your emails & thought you were BNP or someone from the state.
Understand this, people saw your emails & thought you were BNP or someone from the state.
Understand this, people saw your emails & thought you were BNP or someone from the state.
and im still not convinced otherwise.
the more you carry on the more i think you are just out to cause trouble. it wasnt him who phoned police. dont imply threats joe. this is salford not the suburbs , you know the deal.
Steve_j
10th September 2009, 11:36
Yeah, that guy gave me the adress of where he works.
Might go see him and thank him for phoning the cops on me.
Yeah that would be real smart.
Bloody Armalite
10th September 2009, 11:59
it was a joke lol.
Sam_b
10th September 2009, 12:02
Not really a joke when people think that you'll actually do it.
Bloody Armalite
10th September 2009, 12:12
why do you care anyway you seemed ok with radical, and apparently hes using violence:rolleyes:
Sam_b
10th September 2009, 12:49
?
Bloody Armalite
10th September 2009, 12:51
by the way, your humor/darkness is very much like brians in family guy, it uncanny:D
Pirate turtle the 11th
10th September 2009, 13:26
This thread.
Is .
Shit.
Wanted Man
10th September 2009, 14:06
n00b-bot? I don't know what that is.
Try googling a dry sense of humor though.
Haha, shit. :blushing: Sorry about that, it's just that nothing seems absurd enough for some people on Revleft, judging by US's posts. Looking back, I must admit that your post was pretty funny.
RHIZOMES
10th September 2009, 14:07
This is the funniest thread I've read on Revleft in ages.
Oh my god hahaha
Jazzratt
10th September 2009, 14:10
This thread.
Is .
The.
Shit.
Fix'd
ÑóẊîöʼn
10th September 2009, 15:08
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j99/NoXion604/766769.jpg
The Ungovernable Farce
10th September 2009, 15:59
I reckon Sam B should have to travel round Ireland talking to the poorest Irish people he can find until he isn't racist anymore.
Sam_b
10th September 2009, 16:36
Not likely. I'm spending all my money buying Union flags and going down to support the EDL.
Bloody Armalite
10th September 2009, 16:41
please tell me your joking:scared:
Pogue
10th September 2009, 16:42
Not likely. I'm spending all my money buying Union flags and going down to support the EDL.
I began to have doubts when you were standing on the other side of that hedge from me at RWB.
Sam_b
10th September 2009, 18:03
US sent me a visitor message saying that I am still a xenophobe and will not be apologising, despite the fact that his accusations are laughable and countered with evidence.
Redmau5
10th September 2009, 18:06
US sent me a visitor message saying that I am still a xenophobe and will not be apologising, despite the fact that his accusations are laughable and countered with evidence.
Indeed. I'm from Belfast and everyone uses the word eejit.
The Ungovernable Farce
10th September 2009, 18:56
Everyone in Belfast is racist against Irish people. :(
Wanted Man
10th September 2009, 19:03
Everyone in Belfast is racist against Irish people. :(
Not to mention those fucking Scots.
Dr Mindbender
10th September 2009, 19:14
US sent me a visitor message saying that I am still a xenophobe and will not be apologising, despite the fact that his accusations are laughable and countered with evidence.
If you think i think you're still a xenophobe then thats your prerogitive. If you're still ignoring me then you shouldnt lose any sleep over it should you. I think you posted tactlessly and had i said nothing it would have been a bigger stain on my conscience than not confronting you on the matter.
Anyway, fuck off, i'm not going to be drawn into another 20 page argument with you.
Indeed. I'm from Belfast and everyone uses the word eejit.
That doesnt give mainlanders the right to parrot the term in that kind of imitated ''hurr hurr silly paddies'' way that they often do.
ÑóẊîöʼn
10th September 2009, 19:16
That doesnt give mainlanders the right to parrot the term in that kind of imitated ''hurr hurr silly paddies'' way that they often do.
So when I say merde I'm taking the piss out of the French, instead of making use of an expanded vocabulary?
It's nice to know there are people out there willing to tell me what I'm thinking. :rolleyes:
Wanted Man
10th September 2009, 19:28
That doesnt give mainlanders the right to parrot the term in that kind of imitated ''hurr hurr silly paddies'' way that they often do.
I agree. All forms of slang should remain restricted to the area where they originate from. If someone from Glasgow says "eejit", it's not because it's something that they happen to say in Glasgow too. No sir, it must be an anti-Irish slur made up by the English to make fun of silly paddies. It totally makes sense! Yes, I think we should trust your important linguistic contributions. You would know, being as "well-versed in Scots" as you are. :rolleyes:
Sam_b
10th September 2009, 19:30
That doesnt give mainlanders the right to parrot the term in that kind of imitated ''hurr hurr silly paddies'' way that they often do
Again, the word 'eejit' is a mainstay of the Scots vernacular and my own regional dialect, Doric, and has been for centuries. Tact has nothing to do with it, I in fact did nothing wrong and you have failed to prove it and back up your claims.
I would like either an apology for this or for you to go back and edit your posts. Forebye ah think yer takin an affy fiel line oan this matter, loon - and ah dinna like it.
Dr Mindbender
10th September 2009, 19:42
So when I say merde I'm taking the piss out of the French, instead of making use of an expanded vocabulary?
It's nice to know there are people out there willing to tell me what I'm thinking. :rolleyes:
its hardly analogous because french is often a language adopted by trendies attempting to be suave and sophisticated. Whenever British mainlanders attempt to immitate the Irish, its almost always in a pejoritive context. Anyone with a knowledge of history or plain common sense would know this.
Anyway, i dont really want to contribute to this thread anymore.
I dont think i've done anything wrong, and if Sam doesnt want to dry his eyes or just ignore me like he promised he would do, well thats his problem.
Sam_b
10th September 2009, 20:03
If you run away without justifying your claims, then well that really shows your strength of argument. Just like you ran away after accusing Bobkindles of sexism and were challenged to back it up.
You haven't proven anything about 'imitating the Irish'.
Angry Young Man
13th September 2009, 02:16
Shit me the debate about whether it is offensive for anyone other than the Irish to say eejit ran for four sodding pages!?
And if it weren't for taking the piss out of accents, I wouldn't be able to respond to Southern folk who go 'you nawv'nahs don' ahf tawk fannay' with a heavily affected mockernee that'd make Dick van Dyck blush.
Nwoye
13th September 2009, 02:49
i dont even know what this thread is about anymore
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