Cultures, respect? deny? Integrate? Dominate? eliminate?

[AntifaAustralia]

Culture, OK there are almost a Million definitions of culture. I think it is best summed up as a collection of learnt things.

Different types of cultures: Food, music, language, religion, death/burial, birth, birthday, ideology (even communsit culture), national, marriage, Sex (verb and noun);)

Ethnicity is known to be a colletion of cultures to a certain specific nation or regional group. eg, Han (china), dutch, uigher, slav, jewish (religious-ethnic)

My question i want to disscuss is Dominate cultures with another?
deny some cultures?
respect?
Integrate?

Tell me some of your opinions.

One ethical dilemma i have been experiencing is the Aboriginal australian Cultural respect of Uluru ( a sacred traditional BIG rock) and people climbing other the rock (saftey and cultural disrespect comes in).
Anti-culture: So if the town people own the rock and not the people of the world, isn't that selfish?
Pro-respect, pro-saftey, and anti-glorification of a rock:it's just a fucking stupid rock, just give it to them!:lol:. and also the safety, apparently 40 or 30 people have died falling off it :(.

This shit is very complex shit, and i predict some feisty arguements perhaps. Rules: Be NICE, donot offend, respect one another ( exception are fascists, because they are not nice, they offend, and dont respect other nations/races/ethnicites/cultures...)

[RGacky3]

Cultures are like a shadow, your ignore it, and focus on the real issues.

Cultures are nothing more than the way people live, social norms in different areas, they are natural, and they devolop naturally.

[Ele'ill]

I find many aspects of all different cultures to be interesting.

Why not encourage the sharing of culture?

[Richard Nixon]

Depends on which culture. I tolerate most cultures unless they practice things like cannibalism and human sacrifice.

[Ele'ill]

Depends on which culture. I tolerate most cultures unless they practice things like cannibalism and human sacrifice.

What's wrong with cannibalism?

[Richard Nixon]

What's wrong with cannibalism?

Of dead bodies or the living?

[Ele'ill]

Of dead bodies or the living?

Uh, of the living. (duh)

[Richard Nixon]

Uh, of the living. (duh)

In what cases: for ritual or survival?

[Ele'ill]

In what cases: for ritual or survival?

Just for fun.

[Richard Nixon]

Just for fun.

The people who do it should be hanged.

[Ele'ill]

The people who do it should be hanged.

Why? Assuming there's no murder involved.

[Richard Nixon]

Why? Assuming there's no murder involved.

If you eat a living person it is murder.

[mykittyhasaboner]

Cultures are like a shadow, your ignore it, and focus on the real issues.
Culture isn't a "real issue"?


Cultures are nothing more than the way people live, social norms in different areas, they are natural, and they devolop naturally.Yeah, and some of these "natural" social norms can be inherently reactionary or totally counter productive to the health of a human being; like racism or, maybe foot binding for example. You can't simply ignore such things. By saying "ignore culture", you are ignoring "the way people live and their social norms". So you think we should just ignore social aspects of society?


If you eat a living person it is murder.
By our non-cannibalistic standards it is. :D Maybe a cannabilist would see it different. I know I wouldn't dig eating a human/getting eaten by another human. That would suck.

[danyboy27]

mariel stop messing with nixon, its not funny anymore.

on a side note i really laughed.

[Ele'ill]

If you eat a living person it is murder.


Not if they're still alive while you're eating them.

[Richard Nixon]

Not if they're still alive while you're eating them.

LOL. If you shoot someone while he's living it isn't murder I assume?

[mykittyhasaboner]

Not if they don't die.

[Ele'ill]

Not if they don't die.



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[danyboy27]

come on stop this shit dudes!

[mykittyhasaboner]

What shit? Relax. It's not the first time a thread in OI has been mostly dumb 1 liners.

[RGacky3]

Culture isn't a "real issue"?


I dont' believe so.


Yeah, and some of these "natural" social norms can be inherently reactionary or totally counter productive to the health of a human being; like racism or, maybe foot binding for example. You can't simply ignore such things. By saying "ignore culture", you are ignoring "the way people live and their social norms". So you think we should just ignore social aspects of society?


Racism and foot binding don't just start because thast their culture, its a reflection of society, racism comes around for many reasons, poverty which leads to job market competition, historical divisions of the races ignorance. To fight the reacism (which is a cultural manifestation of these conditions), you fight the cause, poverty, ignorance, division, and the such.

The same with foot binding, it has to do with ignorance and repression of women, which is many times based on economic reasons (women can't get jobs), so you change the conditions.

Thats what I mean when I say culture is a shadow of societal conditions.

[AntifaAustralia]

Racism and foot binding don't just start because thast their culture, its a reflection of society, racism comes around for many reasons, poverty which leads to job market competition, historical divisions of the races ignorance. To fight the reacism (which is a cultural manifestation of these conditions), you fight the cause, poverty, ignorance, division, and the such.

The same with foot binding, it has to do with ignorance and repression of women, which is many times based on economic reasons (women can't get jobs), so you change the conditions.

Thats what I mean when I say culture is a shadow of societal conditions.

I totally agree with you Rgacky on poverty/education/discrimination and their relation to strange cultures. Still even bizzare tiny aspects of culture are at times hard to explain, death rituals (cremate or bury moist) can be hard to justify, and conflict arises between what is right and wrong.
What's wrong with cannibalism, i'm not a cannibal but i can somewhat understand Food scarcity and letting perfectly good meat to waste,:drool: LMAO!
Foot binding was a very strange sexist method, It was actually used to prevent female growth because apparently a short woman is more attractive, and The MAN HAD TO BE EXTREMELY RICH TO PROVIDE FOR A DISABLED WIFE, mega what the fuck, Direct link with image issues and sexism with CAPITALISM.

Most of all i think our own cultures are coming into play here, we are mocking other cultures because we ourselves have different cultures.

The United Nations Human rights bill states that everyone has the right to culture, the right to freedom of political and ideological expression, the right to not be discriminated against on grounds of religion...... What about fascist politics? cannibals? white supremacists? cultural supremacists? Religious extremist imbeciles? I know they are deniers of human rights, hence they dont deserve Human rights, but then that very thought is against human rights! And i dislike christianity and almost every other religion because it is somewhat archaic and sexist. if there is culture a person will brag about it saying how superior it is compared to other cultures (like fascism) and try to dominate it with a stronger one.

Overall we are the same Human species, Culture is a barrier to human integration like nationalism and other discriminations, to achieve communism it is going to take time, also People hate communism because they don't want to give up their Nation or religion. In a communist society how is culture maintained? Do we need a slow communist transition to avoid revolution? but then during that time many people would have died and have even been imprisoned in a living HELL!!!! to the Injustices in society!!! I WANT HEAVEN ON EARTH NOW!!!! I"M AN ATHEIST!:(