How many Revlefters does it take to change a lightbulb?

[NecroCommie]

-One newbie to start yet another thread about the broken lightbulb, and ask how communists would do it.

-A dozen replies on how communists would take hold of the means of lightbulb changing, and how it definately would not include massacring millions of lightbulb changers

- Several anarchists to point out how lighbulbs were brutally hacked to place in the soviet union, and how marxism-leninism has never succesfully changed the lightbulb

- A bunch of trotskyites to blaim the lack of light on material conditions, and to point out how Leninism is still a swell thing.

- An angry mob of marxist-leninists saying that only the lack of light saved the USSR from the german nazi bombings

- A flaming tendency war in which no ugly words are spared that lasts for pages

- A random post from the original newbie stating simply: "thanks"

- A huge line of "agreed" posts

- ... Which are all deleted with an angry message from a moderator.

- It still takes one Sam B to say how pointless it is to change a lightbulb

- ... And three chit-chatters to call Sam b a spoilsport

- It is part of the process for those chit-chatters to start bombing that thread with memes.

- And it takes only few cliks to moderate the thread into chit-chat

- ... where it suffers a painful and horrible death through off-topication

- One resurrection years after by an "agreed"-post

- After which it takes little time for STJ to be banned once again

All this while no-one realizes that the bulb is not going to get changed by discussing about it in the internet. :lol:

[scarletghoul]

lol :lol:

[Il Medico]

-One newbie to start yet another thread about the broken lightbulb, and ask how communists would do it.

-A dozen replies on how communists would take hold of the means of lightbulb changing, and how it definately would not include massacring millions of lightbulb changers

- Several anarchists to point out how lighbulbs were brutally hacked to place in the soviet union, and how marxism-leninism has never succesfully changed the lightbulb

- A bunch of trotskyites to blaim the lack of light on material conditions, and to point out how Leninism is still a swell thing.

- An angry mob of marxist-leninists saying that only the lack of light saved the USSR from the german nazi bombings

- A flaming tendency war in which no ugly words are spared that lasts for pages

- A random post from the original newbie stating simply: "thanks"

- A huge line of "agreed" posts

- ... Which are all deleted with an angry message from a moderator.

- It still takes one Sam B to say how pointless it is to change a lightbulb

- ... And three chit-chatters to call Sam b a spoilsport

- It is part of the process for those chit-chatters to start bombing that thread with memes.

- And it takes only few cliks to moderate the thread into chit-chat

- ... where it suffers a painful and horrible death through off-topication

- One resurrection years after by an "agreed"-post

- After which it takes little time for STJ to be banned once again

All this while no-one realizes that the bulb is not going to get changed by discussing about it in the internet. :lol:
agreed.:D

[Dóchas]

in soviet russia lightbulbs change you!!!

[Pogue]

-One newbie to start yet another thread about the broken lightbulb, and ask how communists would do it.

-A dozen replies on how communists would take hold of the means of lightbulb changing, and how it definately would not include massacring millions of lightbulb changers

- Several anarchists to point out how lighbulbs were brutally hacked to place in the soviet union, and how marxism-leninism has never succesfully changed the lightbulb

- A bunch of trotskyites to blaim the lack of light on material conditions, and to point out how Leninism is still a swell thing.

- An angry mob of marxist-leninists saying that only the lack of light saved the USSR from the german nazi bombings

- A flaming tendency war in which no ugly words are spared that lasts for pages

- A random post from the original newbie stating simply: "thanks"

- A huge line of "agreed" posts

- ... Which are all deleted with an angry message from a moderator.

- It still takes one Sam B to say how pointless it is to change a lightbulb

- ... And three chit-chatters to call Sam b a spoilsport

- It is part of the process for those chit-chatters to start bombing that thread with memes.

- And it takes only few cliks to moderate the thread into chit-chat

- ... where it suffers a painful and horrible death through off-topication

- One resurrection years after by an "agreed"-post

- After which it takes little time for STJ to be banned once again

All this while no-one realizes that the bulb is not going to get changed by discussing about it in the internet. :lol:

cool story bro

[Durruti's Ghost]

Agreed.

Perhaps. However, I'd like to point out that Marxism-Leninism has never successfully implemented agreement, ever.

[RedAnarchist]

What's a lightbulb? /primitivist

[ComradeOm]

You forgot to mention the dogmatists who insist that the lightbulb will naturally revolve due to its own internal contradictions. And I'm shocked that Jacob did not merit a mention

[NecroCommie]

Jacob? :confused:

[ckaihatsu]

Um, don't we first need a vanguard party to *provide leadership* for the changing of the lightbulb?


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[Joke only. No political conclusions implied.]

[RedAnarchist]

Jacob? :confused:

Richter.

[spiltteeth]

Stalin would just hold the lightbulb while world history revolved around him.

[NecroCommie]

Also, a group of maoists would demand the bulb to be changed by third world workers. Apparently we first world workers have no interest on changing the light bulb.

[ckaihatsu]

Most importantly, though, we should extrapolate through to some reasonable conclusions about what society would be like in a post-changed-lightbulb world...!

[ckaihatsu]

vanguard party


First political slogan: 'Making the turn'


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[ckaihatsu]

(I'm doing this just to save others the embarrassment...!)


Another political slogan: 'The need for revolution'


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[ckaihatsu]

Reformists would say that we *don't* have to change the lightbulb at all -- we could just apply yellow paint to the outside of the burnt-out lightbulb and that would be just as good. They would cut social services spending to raise funds for the yellow paint but, in the end, the money would go to the military to conquer new territory for the making of lightbulbs to sell on the "free market".

[ckaihatsu]

RevLefters *shouldn't* change the lightbulb -- that would be substitutionism.

[ckaihatsu]

Sectarians would say that only *they* can lay claim to the legacy of know-how about lightbulb-changing....


(Had enough yet?)

[Bright Banana Beard]

Keep going, please.

[Pogue]

No electrical know-how, no opinion.

[ckaihatsu]

Stalinists would *change* the lightbulb but the new one would *fade* in brightness *very* quickly and become dim so that its light would only reach as far as its national borders. This would be hailed for decades by the national bureaucracy as *the* *definitive* changing of the lightbulb, as Marx and Lenin had intended, with millions killed in defending the new lightbulb, especially for those higher up in the state apparatus who stayed closest to it.

[ckaihatsu]

Liberals would build a cottage industry on the news and politics around changing the lightbulb -- a few select million would make their careers by issuing all kinds of studies and analyses about how the lightbulb needed changing, while decades would slip by in the process of politicking around changing the lightbulb. An entire "Green" movement and economic bubble would rise around making sure that the new lightbulb would be energy efficient and made out of organic materials, but taxpayers would have to fork over *extra* to buy this *specialty* lightbulb....

[ckaihatsu]

Workerists would *marvel* at how strong, industrious, and comradely the working class is, especially those who led strikes in the factories and fought off national militias in the '30s and '40s. A micro cottage industry would spring up detailing how well the lightbulb was changed last time around, and about how the workers brought the bosses to their knees, winning control over the changing of the lightbulb.

Unfortunately the bosses and their nations made a comeback, unscrewed the new lightbulb, threw it away, and put the old one (that doesn't work) back into place, slaughtering millions in the process with their armies.

*These days* workerists will recall the good ol' days when the new lightbulb *was* in place, and will say that today we could perhaps just get by with the workers building *flashlights* for themselves, wherever they may be.

[ckaihatsu]

Trotskyists would note that *once* the lightbulb is changed its light could reach every last little corner of the room -- workers in the First World would just have to move objects out of the way so that this could happen.

[ckaihatsu]

Radicals would *rage* in the streets and block traffic and hold press conferences over how crucial it is to change the lightbulb. They would name-drop the people of Third World countries as *also* needing to have the lightbulb changed. Radicals would make giant street puppets and hold marches and demonstrations to bring public attention to the fact that the lightbulb needs changing *now*. Social minorities like Latinos and women would be encouraged to educate themselves on *how* to change a lightbulb so that they can overcome cultural hegemony.

After undergoing waves of arrests and beatings at the hands of police the radicals would cut deals with the legal system and would enter into positions of privileged social influence around the process of Radical Lightbulb Changing -- see 'liberal'.

[ckaihatsu]

Syndicalists would usurp the bosses and overtake the factories of the lightbulb-making industry *in an instant*, but, once done, would not be able to make one *single type* of lightbulb -- instead there would be a voluminous production of *several* types of lightbulbs, and the syndicalists might get it together enough to screw in *several types* of smaller lightbulbs into the socket, each one lighting up a different, worker-occupied factory and leaving everyone else in the darkness.

[ckaihatsu]

Progressives would hang on the news of each *degree* of rotation that the lightbulb underwent, hailing it as *real progress* while ignoring the days in which conservatives turned the lightbulb *back* into place.

[ckaihatsu]

Conservatives would say that, even though the lightbulb is broken and is not providing any light, what's *really* important here is the corporate logo on the lightbulb, for the sake of brand recognition -- *that*'s why the lightbulb *doesn't need* changing. In the event that light consumption picks up the private sector will be there to supply electricity and billing services.

[ckaihatsu]

( A "study guide" to go with this thread -- it's a political spectrum of sorts.... )


Ideologies & Operations -- Fundamentals

http://tinyurl.com/d2564h

[Il Medico]

No electrical know-how, no opinion.
Lol Rosa.

[Rusty Shackleford]

The question really is:
What quantitative value of leftists when brought into relation with a light bulb would result in it being changed?
X leftists = Changed light bulb.
the anser is variable due to the quantity of lightbulbs being changed.
A leftists = Z changed light bulbs
B leftists = Y changed light bulbs
How is the quantity (X A B leftists) determined? by a determined need of labor power to accomplish changing Z Y light bulbs.
What results is that the lighbulb does not change its material form, but it only changed its position relative to a socket.
But another question arises.
how many yards linen can you exchange said light bulb for?

[BOZG]

No electrical know-how, no opinion.

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