English Defence League announce dates for their 'national tour'

[h0m0revolutionary]

Not content with the beating they recieved from Asian youth in Birmingham last month, they will be back there (in Brum) tomorrow.

From their website: "We are due to meet in Broad Street in Birmingham City Centre before 12:30 on Saturday 5th September. The Police will direct us to various Public Houses in Broad Street where we will be asked to wait until further instruction. We strongly recommend that nobody arrives in the City before 11:00, and also we advise supporters not to travel alone. Anyone in large groups may be split and asked to wait in different Pubs."

Then 19th September in Luton (although this has been banned officially) and 10th October in Manchester (city centre!!).

Anyone know what sort of reception they can expect in Luton?

And if you can make any of the dates, make it Manchester, i assure you they're gunna be greeted with all the hostility they deserve ;D. Anyone who does't know, Manchester City Centre is about as multi-cultral as you get, and is firmly the ground of the left, with regular stalls, rallies, protests and such for leftist causes, EDL are mad to hold it here, and they'll regret it accordingly.

EDIT: can someone change the wording of the thread title from 'dats' to 'dates' :$

[Pogue]

I'll be in Brum with some chums tommorow. I'll try and get up a report on here about what goes on.

Manchester should be good. I think they will probably abide by the Luton ban but then again if they didn't it'd be interesting.

I'll also be very interested to see what happens tommorow. I'll be sure to post an article I'll write on here.

[h0m0revolutionary]

I'll be in Brum with some chums tommorow. I'll try and get up a report on here about what goes on.

Manchester should be good. I think they will probably abide by the Luton ban but then again if they didn't it'd be interesting.

I'll also be very interested to see what happens tommorow. I'll be sure to post an article I'll write on here.

u gunna come Mancs?

[Pogue]

yeh most likely, depends on the strength of the national callout

[AlMack]

if youre coming manchester give us a shout on pm

[bellyscratch]

The English Defence League demo is kicking off
Just heard that a sizeable large mob of EDL are kicking off in Brum against a much smaller antifascist counter demo. More news soon.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/09/437404.html

If this is true, then I'm going to do what I can to get to the Manchester one. Can't have this happening.

[puke on cops]

I notice that Barnsley trades council and UAF called an anti-BNP demo the same day.

Great move guys...

[bellyscratch]

Just spoken to Pogue and he said that the anti-fascists were outnumbered, 100 to 20, earlier on and there was a bit of fighting. The police have split them up now, but with bits of sporadic fighting.

[*Viva La Revolucion*]

I don't think I can make it to Manchester, but let me know if they're coming to Newcastle.

[h0m0revolutionary]

I imagine 100 - 20 is correct, despite vocal support the left hasn't done much. Hopefully Manchester, with a large left base, will be a completely different story.

If anyone needs to be put up on the 9th/10th/whatever I have a spare room and few couches people can sleep on, PM me.

[bellyscratch]

Oh, I forgot to mention, that more anti-fascists have joined the counter-demo now, so its not as unequal as before. I'm not sure on the numbers now though.

[nuisance]

The locals not giving it a go this time?

[Holden Caulfield]

There were angry clashes in a city centre today as right-wing protesters fought with anti-fascist campaigners in a busy shopping street.

A planned demonstration by The English Defence League in central Birmingham descended into violence as the group charged along New Street, close to the city's main train station.

One onlooker said: "There were about 250 people in total, fighting and throwing bottles at each other."

The disorder spilled onto the adjoining Bennetts Hill, a street lined with a number of pubs, popular with shoppers.

Dozens of riot police worked to contain the disturbance and a police helicopter hovered overhead.

A police spokeswoman said there had been "pockets" of trouble but could not confirm whether any arrests had been made.

West Midlands Police said it would deal with anti-social behaviour or criminal activity connected to the protests "robustly" after a demonstration last month turned violent.

Earlier this week the force, along with Birmingham City Council, obtained an order from the Home Secretary banning protesters from the Bullring area of the city, under section 14a of the Public Order Act.

Under the same legislation, Chief Constable Chris Sims passed an order restricting the protests to two locations - Lancaster Circus and Old Square.

But after meeting on Broad Street in the city's entertainment district, demonstrators proceeded to New Street, around half a mile away, and trouble ensued.

The street, which houses a large number of banks, cafes and chain stores, is a major pedestrian route from Birmingham New Street train station to the Bullring shopping mall.

The exact location of the first outbreak of violence is close to the city's Town Hall and central library.



Birmingham Post (http://www.birminghampost.net/news/newsaggregator/2009/09/05/anti-fascists-clash-with-right-wing-protesters-in-birmingham-97319-24615373/)

[h0m0revolutionary]

20 arrests. Hmmm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8239818.stm

[h0m0revolutionary]

Protest tomorrow by UAF *sigh*

http://www.uaf.org.uk/news.asp?choice=90903

in Harrow *sigh*

shame they didn't have the sense to go... today! You know, when fascists were actually marching :/

Still, might be worth going to, tell UAF to get their arse in gear.

[OneNamedNameLess]

Just spoken to Pogue and he said that the anti-fascists were outnumbered, 100 to 20, earlier on and there was a bit of fighting. The police have split them up now, but with bits of sporadic fighting.

Is Pogue ok?

Homorev, did you go? I'm disappointed at the turnout from the Anti-Fash. I would love to get down but there is no way I can make Manchester.

Btw everyone, if you go onto the UK Yahoo there is a link to a video on ITN of some of the scenes. I can't post it here I don't think as it's not a youtube video.

Actually:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090905/tuk-anti-fascists-clash-with-right-wing-dba1618.html

Here is a link instead.

[bellyscratch]

Is Pogue ok?


Yeh he was fine when I spoke to him earlier on at about 3/4ish

Not heard anything from him since though.

[wasteman]

Worst Nazis ever :laugh:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/09/05/article-1211414-064DD132000005DC-417_636x525.jpg

[h0m0revolutionary]

Token Israel flag to dismiss claims to fascism/anti-semitism.

Clever bastards.

[Holden Caulfield]

Token Israel flag to dismiss claims to fascism/anti-semitism.

Clever bastards.

The stance of British fascists on Israel/Palestine is fucked up, comes down to the old question of: who do you hate more jews or muslims?

A question that fascist groups have problems with answering honestly (ignore the BNP, they hate muslims more)

[Pogue]

Yeh they do this tokenistic shit but then they sieg heil.

After we broke out of the cordon alot of people moved around in big groups because the EDL were going around onto public buses and attacking random Asians who were on their own. We kept an eye out on the town for a while.

[wasteman]

Heres another odd photo

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6154/foreignflags.jpg

[Holden Caulfield]

Heres another odd photo


means nothing. I know of Brazillian communists who sung the national anthem just so the coppers would look even worse when they kicked the shit thru them, of the bullshit anti-fascist fascists in Holland, or the National Bolsheviks, of the national anarchists, and of mental anti-deutsche vs fascist vs communist clashes in Germany.

Pictures or videos from these things would appear to say alot but in context and with some thought into what it happening, what the message is and what people's motives are then the individual pictures mean shit all.

Nice to have you back Wasteman btw, :sleep:

[ls]

means nothing. I know of Brazillian communists who sung the national anthem just so the coppers would look even worse when they kicked the shit thru them, of the bullshit anti-fascist fascists in Holland, or the National Bolsheviks, of the national anarchists, and of mental anti-deutsche vs fascist vs communist clashes in Germany.:

Yeah and Dutch Fascists saying "Free Tibet". A lot of it is public image bullshit and you're right.

However, we must remember that as the far-right's beliefs are completely weird and contradictory anyway, there are a lot of them who have conflicting and corrupt beliefs that their comrades don't even share. There is some brand of Fascism in every country and they often end up interlinked, whether as scary internet warriors or in (as in the case of the Fascist garda being helped by that Bolivian Fascist's security firm) real workers' struggles.

I just think it's an important distinction we must make. We don't have contradictory and weird beliefs, superstitions and irrational thoughts quite like them, we believe in internationalism if nothing else (ok, maybe all of us except the third-worldists).

[OneNamedNameLess]

Thanks for posting that photo. An obvious front. I don't see flags from any predominantly Muslim nations either. Just why would the EDF sport Jamaican and Indian flags on a march designed to apparently highlight Islamic Extremism?

http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m472/reformislam/MuslimsAgainstWahhabiProtestDCOctob.jpg

Do you think the EDF would team up with anti-Islamic Extremists like this lot?

[Pogue]

Once more perhaps the testament to their attitudes to Asian people is that they hung around the city targetting lone Asians in groups and attacking them. There is no debate - the flags and rhtetoric is a cover up, as is the 'We're not here for trouble' shit.

One of them actually came storming into our crowd but didn't hit me, going for the Asians instead, because I am white.

[Holden Caulfield]

For anybody going to the Manchester demo be careful, with 90 people being nicked last time the same could happen this time. Remember your in the city centre and there will be shit loads of CCTV cameras, as well as the coppers and FIT squads.

[Melbourne Lefty]

Peacefull [and fucking big numbers] protest would be the best here, the coppers will be out to grab anyone they can.

[Pogue]

Peacefull [and fucking big numbers] protest would be the best here, the coppers will be out to grab anyone they can.

I don't mean to seem confrontational but I don't think you really understand the dynamic of the previous protests and why violence happened. You seem to be working on the assumption that when things got violent is was because we collectively decided we would get violent. I assure you it doesn't work like that.

[h0m0revolutionary]

New date announced!

Location: Leeds City Centre
Date: Saturday 31st October 2009
Time: 12:00pm

Hope today goes well comrades!

[h0m0revolutionary]

According to Stromfront 200+ anti-fascists turned up and 100 or so broke through police lines to chase the "less than 15" fascists away.

Fucking brilliant, they're bitter as fuck! :laugh:

Well done everyone, let's replicate today in Manchester and Leeds!

Win.

[Holden Caulfield]

Apparently the ones chased weren't protestors, just people who happend to be white walking in the area. The protest itself has being cancelled by the Police over "safety fears" the SIOE protestors penned in by the Old Bill.


what utter shit from Stormfront, considering plenty of white people were down with UAF and individually on the counter demo, including one of our own comrades.

they talk total unsubstantiated shite, look at how many posts on SF start with "Apparently" or "as far as I know" or "so i heard" . Fucking lying fascistd

[h0m0revolutionary]

what utter shit from Stormfront, considering plenty of white people were down with UAF and individually on the counter demo, including one of our own comrades.

they talk total unsubstantiated shite, look at how many posts on SF start with "Apparently" or "as far as I know" or "so i heard" . Fucking lying fascistd

I imagine if the revolutionary left deleted their SF accounts, the fash would be a very lonely bunch ;D

[Holden Caulfield]

BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8251598.stm)
Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212831/Tensions-threaten-boil-right-wing-extremists-anti-fascist-protestors-clash-outside-London-mosque.html?ITO=1490) (lulz)
Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/11/rightwing-anti-fascist-protesters-riot)
The Independant (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/rightwing-protestors-target-harrow-mosque-1785797.html)

[brigadista]

I don't mean to seem confrontational but I don't think you really understand the dynamic of the previous protests and why violence happened. You seem to be working on the assumption that when things got violent is was because we collectively decided we would get violent. I assure you it doesn't work like that.


so what did happen? who are the EDL? would be good to know from someone who was there

[Stranger Than Paradise]

so what did happen? who are the EDL? would be good to know from someone who was there

Went today, there was only maybe 15 from English Defence League initially and they pissed off after the first scuffle. Later on six guys came back and did Nazi salutes to the whole crowd of us, there was maybe 400 or so, they got chased all the way up the hill. Fascist idiots.

[brigadista]

Went today, there was only maybe 15 from English Defence League initially and they pissed off after the first scuffle. Later on six guys came back and did Nazi salutes to the whole crowd of us, there was maybe 400 or so, they got chased all the way up the hill. Fascist idiots.


from looking at the photos here i must say the EDL dont look the full shilling tbh

[Stranger Than Paradise]

from looking at the photos here i must say the EDL dont look the full shilling tbh

Well me and my friend were tryna get to the rally and on the way we did come across a group of fascists who could've been 15 to 20, so they had that many to begin with but they all went back after they saw the numbers we had.

[Holden Caulfield]

Blog report (from a SWPer) with a video from BBC news: Here (http://luna17activist.blogspot.com/2009/09/edl-thugs-stopped-in-harrow.html)

[James Kevin]

Anyone from Manchester. UAF have said that they plan to hold a counter demo in St Peter's fucking square if the EDL hold it in Piccadilly Gardens. To any comrades who plan on kettling the Gardens themselves or more, I live in Manchester, if we get forced to move and they march, or if they successfully finish, then the majority are likely to go for a quick pint or march down to the Ace Of Diamonds pub (known fascist pub frequented by Griffin whenever he's in Manchester) on Oldham Road. If we want to get the nazis then this'd be our best shot. Anyone comrades coming down got any ideas or objections?

[h0m0revolutionary]

Anyone from Manchester. UAF have said that they plan to hold a counter demo in St Peter's fucking square if the EDL hold it in Piccadilly Gardens. To any comrades who plan on kettling the Gardens themselves or more, I live in Manchester, if we get forced to move and they march, or if they successfully finish, then the majority are likely to go for a quick pint or march down to the Ace Of Diamonds pub (known fascist pub frequented by Griffin whenever he's in Manchester) on Oldham Road. If we want to get the nazis then this'd be our best shot. Anyone comrades coming down got any ideas or objections?

Ace of Diamonds is owned by BNP local candidate Derek Adams, so they will indeed be there, but it's out of the city centre in an area where the BNP poll well. It's not advisable for comrades to go there unless that's the consensus of the demo.

Also forget what UAF are doing, they don't control Manchester anti-fascist acitvity like they do elsewhere. UAF will tail what the rest of us do, not the other way around.

[Dr Mindbender]

Heres another odd photo

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6154/foreignflags.jpg

wtf is with the jamaican and indian flags?

i can partly understand india with the Pakistan conflict but the jamaican one doesnt even make any sense.

[brigadista]

wtf is with the jamaican and indian flags?

i can partly understand india with the Pakistan conflict but the jamaican one doesnt even make any sense.


gives a new meaning to "jafakean"......:D

[Melbourne Lefty]

If you read the comments on the BNP website a very large chunk, probably a majority, of the BNPs "average" members now support Israel.

the rules of the game have changed, the BNP for the most part is no longer anti-semitic and the EDL is not either, one of the original founders, Paul Ray, is a well known Christian zionist.

[bricolage]

From their website;

13th September 2009: London

The Home Office bent over backwards to ban us from Luton, yet Hezbollah (http://www.cfr.org/publication/9155/), a Muslim Terrorist Organisation's supporters are due to march through London this coming Sunday. I wonder if we have missed the Al-Qaida March? We urge everybody who can to come to London to oppose this. We will be meeting around Trafalgar square. More to follow.

I don't know the details about whether some sort of Hezbollah affiliated group are actually planning to march through London but I think this is perhaps a different case to the previous EDL adventures in that it is not simply against vague ideas of 'Islamification'. However I won't like to open the can of worms that is "We are all Hezbollah" versus "No to EDL. No to Hezbollah"...

Or do I ;)

[Steve_j]

I believe they are referring to this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Quds_Day

http://gazasolidarity.blogspot.com/2009/09/al-quds-day-protest-for-palestine.html

I am struggling with their hezbollah link, pehaps they drew conclusions because the day of solidarity was initiated by Iran after the revolution.

Or maybe they just made it up.

[Holden Caulfield]

If you read the comments on the BNP website a very large chunk, probably a majority, of the BNPs "average" members now support Israel.

the rules of the game have changed, the BNP for the most part is no longer anti-semitic and the EDL is not either, one of the original founders, Paul Ray, is a well known Christian zionist.

As many have said time and again the anti-semitism of the BNP is dying, and only hung onto (and rarely aired openly) by nutzi's and the clinically derranged. Anti-semitism holds no political weight anymore, the BNP banging on about the Jews wouldn't win them support at all.

Anti-Islamism is the new anti-semitism.

Muslims and Terrorism is the new Jews and 'Jewish Boleviks'.

Different targets, same shit

[MilitantAnarchist]

I may of been away for a few months... but since when was the EDL ever a fucking problem? Have they some how sprung up with hundreds of new members overnight or somthing?
I'd always thought of them as a bunch of middle aged balding bastards that still live with their mam's, blaiming random races on some angry myspace blog...

Someone fill me in on what the crack is plz

[Steve_j]

Check the threads........ At most they pull a couple of hundred.

And a couple of hundred on the streets is a couple of hundred too many.

[Pogue]

I do believe the most they've ever got is 100, in Luton.

[AlMack]

Anyone from Manchester. UAF have said that they plan to hold a counter demo in St Peter's fucking square if the EDL hold it in Piccadilly Gardens. To any comrades who plan on kettling the Gardens themselves or more, I live in Manchester, if we get forced to move and they march, or if they successfully finish, then the majority are likely to go for a quick pint or march down to the Ace Of Diamonds pub (known fascist pub frequented by Griffin whenever he's in Manchester) on Oldham Road. If we want to get the nazis then this'd be our best shot. Anyone comrades coming down got any ideas or objections?



plenty of non-uaf gettin organised, trust. no way will edl go in piccadilly gardens, outside town hall maybe

[Atrus]

I live near Liverpool, and am quite interested in going to the Manchester protest, but to be perfectly honest, I am [shamefully] pretty scared. I've never attended a protest where the fascists actually showed up, or there was a large chance of confrontation, and I'm [currently] not on Redwatch, and don't particularly want to be.
I know I should rise above the fear and go, so hopefully I'll see some of you there [albeit not knowingly]

[MilitantAnarchist]

Use a ski mask or black scarf to cover your face. Dont worry about redwatch

[Sam_b]

I've heard a rumour from a semi-reliable source about the EDL planning on coming up to Glasgow. Ho ho, the irony.

EDIT - And apparently on the 7th November as well, coinciding with the G20 Shenanigans up at St Andrews. Sneaky sneaky.

[Holden Caulfield]

Redwatch is a total joke, don't worry about it.
Have you herd of anybody being done of because they popped up on redwatch?
Also keep in mind for a person to know you from seeing your face online they would probably have to know you anyways otherwise you just another face.

[Pogue]

I live near Liverpool, and am quite interested in going to the Manchester protest, but to be perfectly honest, I am [shamefully] pretty scared. I've never attended a protest where the fascists actually showed up, or there was a large chance of confrontation, and I'm [currently] not on Redwatch, and don't particularly want to be.
I know I should rise above the fear and go, so hopefully I'll see some of you there [albeit not knowingly]

Nothing to be scared of mate. They are not particularly brave, and despite what the media and hystericals will have you believe they are not particularly tough. Just be careful and you'll be fine, if you plan on going, go in a group, don't walk around on your own if its obvious your an anti-fascist (this means anything from badges/shirts/flags to even wearing one of those Arab scarfs (kefyah i think?). Redwatch means fuck all.

Without meaning to play down the threat from the fash don't be worried as I said, be alert, its more useful too. The main problem is the police, I'd rather face 100 fash in a field than 10 fash surrounded by CCTV cameras and cops everywhere.

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

Is the Manchester demo going ahead?

[Pogue]

Is the Manchester demo going ahead?

As far as we know.

[h0m0revolutionary]

Is the Manchester demo going ahead?

The home office has officially rejected the bid to ban them (a bid by CND and hope Not Hate - idiots!) so they will deffo be there.

The build up for the counter-demo is well underway and looking good. Sadly there will be two counter-demos :/. UAF will be marching a mile away from the EDL, two hours later than the proposed time the fascists will be congregating. (Couldn't make it up!) but the main thrust of activity will be mobilising in Piccadilly between 10am-12pm (EDL havn't said a time as of yet... of course). There are alot of people building this.

This might be a big showing for the EDL too, there are several local rascist footie firms they can dip into and a sizeable BNP branch in Salford. So any comrades who can come down, do so :thumbup:

If you are coming down, and don't know Manchester too well, Piccadilly train station is two minutes away from Piccadilly Gardens (as the name would suggest :cool:) where the EDL, and of course our anti-fascist counter-demo will be.

I know it's common sense but worth saying, don't come with political banners/flags or the like, don't dress provocatively and don't talk to coppers ;)

[AlMack]

think UAF are saying 12pm piccadilly gardens now so wont be a split hopefully

[Atrus]

Thanks for the reassurance, Pogue and Holden, now I will try my very best to make it. i'm in Hull that day, but I think the train from Liverpool-Hull goes through Manchester, so I could stop by for an hour or two. If not, I'll see you all in leeds!
I've spoken to a few people who are going, so will pass the meeting details on to them.

[h0m0revolutionary]

think UAF are saying 12pm piccadilly gardens now so wont be a split hopefully

Ah you'd be the facebook group creator? Hello =)

Where di you get that, last email I recieved form them, on wednesday, they said meet at Albert Square. I hope they have changed, but even if they havn't, they don't hold much weight anyways ;)

[Holden Caulfield]

Ah you'd be the facebook group creator


Im gona sue him for using my intellectual property without my express permission
:laugh:

[MilitantAnarchist]

I heard a rumour they are planning to come to Leicester one day... English First Party (or whatever they were called) did something similar earlier on in the year... its the whole 'first white minority' thing... im not saying its a reliable source, but it wouldnt surprise me one bit if they did show up here. But i'll keep my ear to the ground and see what i hear, as soon as i know, you'll know

[brigadista]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme..._4/8266676.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme..._4/8266676.stm)

file on four on bbc 4 radio tommorow put a thread but in discrimnation -think this prog has info about the EDL//

[AlMack]

Ah you'd be the facebook group creator? Hello =)

Where di you get that, last email I recieved form them, on wednesday, they said meet at Albert Square. I hope they have changed, but even if they havn't, they don't hold much weight anyways ;)


someone copy n pasted a later one saying piccadilly on the 1000000 against the BNP group, they didnt wanna touch it at first but theyve been outflanked. a lot will rest on where EDL say theyre gonna hold this static demo

[AlMack]

EDL now saying demo not til 5pm after the match. Their brum contingent arriving about 1pm

[h0m0revolutionary]

EDL now saying demo not til 5pm after the match. Their brum contingent arriving about 1pm

The whole of manchester as of this week will be covered with door knockings, leaflet distros, poster runs and such for this march and the time will be 10am.
Hopefully this will stay active until EDL decide to march

clearly this has been re-scheduled on their part to ensure drunken england fans join them and cause some trouble, one the one hand our orginisation skills will be tested to the max now, as we've only a week and we have to tell people maybe to arrive later and such. On the other hand, them consisting of drunken thugs will expose them for exactly what they are, also bolstered numbers form idiot footie fans or not, we'll still outnumber them.

[AlMack]

yessirindeed

[AlMack]

10am it is then, heres the details from EDL:


'....been in talks with the Manchester Police Force today, and our protest to oppose Radical Islam, and Sharia Law has been approved.

We need to be in Manchester as early as possible, and make our way towards Piccadilly Gardens where, at around 13:00, our friends from the UAF will be holding a counter demonstration against our demonstration which would not have even taken place by then? Oh well!

The Conduct on the day.

Everybody now knows (apart from the UAF and their affiliates) that we are a NON racist Organisation, who oppose Radical Islam, and Sharia Law. Not Muslims, but Radical Muslims.

Like i said in the last email, anyone with any other agenda they wish to voice, do so under the umbrella of an organisation that suits your agenda, as Racism will NOT be tolerated in the EDL.
We are a Multi ethnic, multi faith organisation.

Meeting Point

We will be meeting at the Wetherspoons pub next to Piccadilly Gardens, and need to be there as early as possible to aid the Police in facilitating our protest after the Unite against Freedom, and their wonderfully mis-informed friends disperse.
The closest train station is Manchester Piccadilly Station, and is only a short walk from Piccadilly Gardens. There are also many other forms of public transport available in the City.
As in Birmingham, the whole area will be heavily Policed.
We need to be at the pub at around 12:00. Now a lot of you will be thinking, god, that's a bit early? but this is under Police instruction. You may come later if you choose, but may be refused entry, so as close to 12:00 as possible if you can, and try to avoid excessive alcohol consumption.
The Police have asked that all EDL members avoid the shopping areas around the city, and we ask that you please respect these orders.

The Protest

Our Protest will be held in Piccadilly Gardens at 17:00, during which we will have an expert speaker present to address everybody, and also a 2 minute silence for all of our Heroic Soldiers lost in Iraq, Afghanistan and indeed every war in history, as without their heroism, our freedom of speech would be non existent. After this, we will all sing our National Anthem. Anyone taking part in any racial, anti-religious or violent chants will be suspected to have links to either far right, or far left groups, looking to darken the name of the EDL, and will be asked to leave.

We need to prove, once again, that we are a peaceful protest organisation, and violence would never have become a factor at our protests if it was not for the UAF tactics of winding up crowds into thinking we are a "far right racist" Organisation, with links to the BNP.

After the protest, everybody is advised to make their way home.

Anybody who has not yet donated to the EDL, please do so, as the setting up of the organisation has been very costly, and we have so far, apart from a few generous donations, footed the entire costs involved in setting up the EDL. to a point that i for one am pledging all of my time to focus on the EDL, and have recently given up my full time job to do this.

Call me nuts, but this is something i feel very strongly about!


Thank you for all of your support so far, and let's hope that we get a chance to voice our concerns this time.

Please forward this email to anyone who may be interested in attending on the 10th.

Yours in hope of a peaceful future,
Trevor Kelway '

[AlMack]

one week tae go! PM man if youre on it

[FAYEB]

Please can someone help, Think I have got somewhat confused along the way!!! I am considering well more than considering going to the demonstration against fascism on sat at Manchester, Thing is I am going to be on my own and I am worried, I am into peaceful protests and dont really know what is going to happen, I have been out of the loop for a little while. Can anybody help!!

[Dimentio]

Yeh they do this tokenistic shit but then they sieg heil.

After we broke out of the cordon alot of people moved around in big groups because the EDL were going around onto public buses and attacking random Asians who were on their own. We kept an eye out on the town for a while.

What the fuck! XD

Well, shame that some Israeli right-wing extremists are courting these fascists in Europe.

http://www.nyjtimes.com/Heritage/News/2005/Nov/Fini-Sharon.jpg

[Holden Caulfield]

Please can someone help, Think I have got somewhat confused along the way!!! I am considering well more than considering going to the demonstration against fascism on sat at Manchester, Thing is I am going to be on my own and I am worried, I am into peaceful protests and dont really know what is going to happen, I have been out of the loop for a little while. Can anybody help!!

Turn up and have a look, you should be okay.
Maybe take extra care if you're an ethnic minority but staying in public areas and near crowds will do you fine.

The City Centre should be crawling with coppers so trouble breaking out properly is not exactly highly likely

[AlMack]

'Due to all the concerns expressed on here and the EDL forum about the meeting place and not wanting to be stuck in one pub, we have today been in talks again with Manchester police and there are a few new arrangements that should be better for everyone, These have been agreed by EDL organisers and Manchester police for everyones safety.

We shall no longer be meeting at weatherspoons by picadilly gardens, everyone arriving in Manchester whether by train or car, coach etc should head for piccadilly train station, There the police will direct everyone to new meeting point, cars and coaches are to go to the car park at the station again police will direct you as we have seperate secure parking arranged for all edl with police staying with all vehicles whilst we are at protest to protect them from attacks etc.

Everyone arriving in Manchester no matter what the time of day will have to follow police directions to meet up point.

Please do not attempt to go to other pubs or areas as this may lead to ppl being attacked and arrests made, stick together, show strength in numbers.

Due to known UAF infiltraters on all our sites and forum who we know will also recieve this e-mail we will not be announcing publicly new meeting point, but you need to trust us on this and just head for the train station where the police will re-direct you. This is to ensure our safety and minimal disruption, anyone that has contact numbers for admin and are known to us can call for meeting point.


And Finally remember that no matter what the UAF or other protests do to disrupt our 2 mins silence, do not give them the satisfaction of having no respect for our war heroes and victims of terrorists, keep it in and stay silent for 2 mins when asked, we are better than them. And thier actions will show them for what they really are.

LADY ENGLAND - NO SURRENDER '

[h0m0revolutionary]

Bumpage. two days fuckers, be there ;)

[AlMack]

Aaaand again theyve changed their minds & its back to th eoriginal 12pm at wetherspoons plan for them

[Fidel Follower]

See you all there Comrades!
I hope i catch Holdens beautiful eye..

[nuisance]

See you all there Comrades!
I hope i catch Holdens beautiful eye..
See you there, prick.

[Fidel Follower]

See you there, prick.

I fucking hope not, prick.