Palestine Resources.

[Idealism]

Hello, so this year in my history for class we are going to have a unit entitled the "palestinian-israeli conflict." I am not nearly as informed on the fight as i'd like to be, so could someone please provide me with some resources explain the basics of it from a marxist-palestinian perspective? Basically all I know is Israel was created after world war 2 as a "homeland for the jews so that they could be protected", but in doing so unjustly occupied palestine and went on to be a brutal state to those outside of it. Thank you.

[The Idler]

Tony Greenstein seems to me to be one of the best writers. His articles on Zionism (http://web.archive.org/web/20071013132753/http://www.cpgb.org.uk/worker/632/zionism.htm) in the Weekly Worker were particularly enlightening (shame their archive seems to be down at the moment). Others have also recommended the articles (http://isreview.org/issues/15/israel_colonial.shtml) at International Socialist Review (http://isreview.org/issues/23/class_character_israel.shtml). I would have thought ZNet too but this might take some searching.

[the last donut of the night]

Zionism, in short, is a neo-colonial movement that is quite unique today. While most colonization happened from the 16th to 19th centuries, Zionism is a recent political ideology whose main intention is to colonize Palestine with Jews and displace the Arab population (Zionists will probably disagree with this, but it's their intended goal -- whether they like it or not).History only proves what I just wrote.

But to understand Zionism, its history must be understood as well. Zionism emerged in late-19th century Europe as a response to the failure of the Jewish population to assimilate into mainstream Christian society -- something some Renaissance writers thought could happen. It was also a response to recurring pogroms in the Russian Empire (brutal ones at that, where whole villages would be destroyed) and the ancient, deep-rooted anti-semitism in European culture. Economic progress in capitalism hadn't led much to social progress, and I believe that made many Jews disillusioned with their present situation. These conditions led some Jews to believe that anti-semitism was intrisically rooted in Christian European society and could never be fully eradicated.

Note that until WW2, Zionism was completely alien to most Jews. They saw it as socialistic (which it was), atheist, or just unfeasable. Most Zionists were secular, atheist, or even anti-religious.

Thus, the response -- according to Zionist scholars -- was to rebuild a new Jewish society where a Jew could be a Jew and live among his fellow compatriots in peace. A homeland, not in Europe, would have to be established to escape anti-semitism. Initially, a colony in Madagascar or Uganda was chosen, but the leading imperial nation (Britain) would not have it that way. So know that the Zionists weren't too religious in this 'get back to Jerusalem' thing (in fact, they were very secular -- as I already mentioned). So eventually, Palestine was chosen. It was a top choice because it also recalled to the collective memory of the ancient Jewish kingdom.

The Zionists eventually got support from the British empire to colonize this British colony because of two things: 1) The Zionists shared the same attitudes as their Christian fellowmen; one that the people being colonized by the nations were inferior and sub-human and 2) the Zionist cause was an European, capitalist movement that could keep down nationalist Arab movements that could cost Britain her oil preserves.

That has been my best attempt to explain the social and economic factors leading to Zionism (sorry if it seemed kinda rushed).

Zionism, in short is genocide because it can only work by expelling millions from their homelands to create a demographically pure Jewish state. The arabs cannot coexist with the Jewish population -- that wouldn't be Zionism, after all. So that explains why we see the economic, social, and political segregation that is enforced in Israel.That's why there exists an apartheid wall, or why Israel used white phosporous to kill thousands of civilians in the latest war.

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This is a topic I'm very interested in, and I will probably come back to this later and give you a decent response. Particularly as I dispute some of what has been said here already. However, I have the flu and am presently extremely exhausted so I will give you a couple good links to material written by Jewish Marxists on the topic for now, with the intention of returning within the next couple days to elaborate on what I've said. Here are the links:
Zionism in the Age of the Dictators (http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/) - a 250-page book by American Marxist, Lenni Brenner.
The Cold-Blooded Stance of the Zionists in the Face of the Holocaust (http://www.marxist.com/History-old/zionist_holocaust.html) - a short essay by Israeli Trotskyist, Yossi Schwarz

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Note that until WW2, Zionism was completely alien to most Jews. They saw it as socialistic (which it was), atheist, or just unfeasable. Most Zionists were secular, atheist, or even anti-religious.
With all due respect, I think this is absolutely inaccurate. Herzl, the father of political Zionism, was not a socialist. His idea for the State of Israel was a compromise between capitalism and socialism. Chaim Weizmann, the first president of the State of Israel was a member of the centrist General Zionists party.
It is also worth mentioning the extreme nationalism and right-wing political philosophy which characterized Ze'ev Jabotinsky's "Revisionist Zionism" - an ideology which bears genuine similarities to Hitlerian nationalism. The Revisionist Zionists claimed the territory on both sides of the river Jordan as rightfully belonging to the "Jewish State" - this means all Palestinian land (including, obviously, Gaza and the West Bank) without exception, and the entire Kingdom of Jordan. As such, the Revisionists refused even to acknowledge the very existence of the Kingdom of Jordan until the 1990's. The Revisionists are not and have never been any closer to the philosophy of socialism than Hitler's Nazism was.
In addition, the head of the terrorist organization, Irgun, (involved in the Deir Yassin massacre and the King David Hotel bombing, amongst other attacks) was a Revisionist Zionist called Menachem Begin - the ideological successor and former disciple of Jabotinsky. Menachem Begin, as you may know, was also the sixth Prime Minister of the State of Israel. In the late 1940's, Begin transformed the Irgun into "Herut" - a right-wing (obviously) Revisionist party. In the late 1980's, Herut became "Likud". And as I'm sure you're aware, the present Prime Minister of the State of Israel, Binyamin Netanyahu, is a member of Likud. And, as if this were not bad enough, the fascist party Yisrael Beiteinu entered a coalition government with Likud following the March 2009 elections, placing Yisrael Beiteinu's Avigdor Lieberman in the esteemed position of Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs.

All of this is not to minimize the role "Labor Zionism", so called, played in Zionism, the formation and governance of the State of Israel. However, the name "Labor Zionism" is immensely misleading. While some factions within Labor Zionism called themselves "socialist" or "Marxist", the notion that either Marxism or socialism in general is or can be compatable with the escapist, idealist, nationalism of the Zionist project is patently ridiculous. Rhetoric aside, Labor Zionists have never been genuine socialists and are more comparable to something like National Bolshevism.
The original Labor Zionist parties were Poale Zion and Hapo'el Hatza'ir. Poale Zion had a left and right wing - the left wing claiming to be Marxists, the right wing openly anti-socialist. Hapo'el Hatza'ir adhered to an anti-socialist nationalism as well. In the early 1930's, Hapo'el Hatza'ir and the right wing of Poale Zion merged to form the Mapai Party, which came to represent almost the entirety of so-called "Labor Zionism". The smaller, less influential left wing of the former Poale Zion merged with the supposedly "socialist" youth movement, HaShomer HaTzair, to form the Mapam Party which eventually became "Meretz". Just to offer a taste of the line of thought behind HaShomer HaTzair, here is a quote from their newsletter circa 1917 (and reprinted in 1936): "The Jew is a caricature of a normal, natural human being, both physically and spiritually. As an individual in society he revolts and throws off the harness of social obligation, knows no order nor discipline". This line of thought was common amongst Zionists - that, basically, anti-Semitism toward Jews living in the diaspora was absolutely justified, as Jews could not function normally amongst non-Jewish populations, or so the Zionist apologists for anti-Semitism claimed.

What I am getting at here is that Zionists were not the radical left among Eastern European Jewry, as was more or less the implication in your statement. There was, of course, the General Jewish Labor Union (the Bund) in the Russian Empire which was officially opposed to Zionism and the use of Hebrew as any kind of "national Jewish language".
In addition, there was the United Jewish Socialist Party which, with the help of many bundistn, went on to form the Jewish Communist Bund which was then absorbed into the Bolshevik Party.
So Zionists were not just a tiny minority among Eastern European Jewry, they were a tiny minority among Jewish socialists as well.


Thus, the response -- according to Zionist scholars -- was to rebuild a new Jewish society where a Jew could be a Jew and live among his fellow compatriots in peace. A homeland, not in Europe, would have to be established to escape anti-semitism. Initially, a colony in Madagascar or Uganda was chosen, but the leading imperial nation (Britain) would not have it that way. So know that the Zionists weren't too religious in this 'get back to Jerusalem' thing (in fact, they were very secular -- as I already mentioned). So eventually, Palestine was chosen. It was a top choice because it also recalled to the collective memory of the ancient Jewish kingdom.

A couple points. First, political Zionism did indeed begin with its sights set on Palestine. Presumably, you are referring to the British Uganda Program, though this was never the idea of the Zionists. Rather, in 1903, following Russian Pogroms, the British Colonial Secretary offered 13,000 square km in Uganda/Kenya to the Zionists as a refuge, but the Zionist Congress ultimately declined the offer in 1905.



Zionism, in short is genocide because it can only work by expelling millions from their homelands to create a demographically pure Jewish state. The arabs cannot coexist with the Jewish population -- that wouldn't be Zionism, after all. So that explains why we see the economic, social, and political segregation that is enforced in Israel.That's why there exists an apartheid wall, or why Israel used white phosporous to kill thousands of civilians in the latest war.

I don't agree with your definition of genocide here. "Expelling millions from their homelands to create a demographically pure [ethnic] State" does not, in and of itself, constitute genocide. So, if Hitler had merely expelled all the Jews from the region, yes, it would have been a horrible crime. But it would not have constituted genocide, which, by definition is "the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group." As to whether or not the Zionists have engaged in genocide, it is difficult to say. Ethnic cleansing, no doubt. But I'd be more comfortable calling it genocide if I was aware of the figures, and I am not.

[the last donut of the night]

Sorry Apikoros. Since posting that I´ve kind of realized things were indeed inaccurate. :o

[leochaos]

Hi,
if you know very little about this topic I should avoid going directly to neavy text.Especially in the jewish camp there are many different positions.I suggest you start with something general,possibly written by somebody not directly involved in the conflict.
I remember THE GUN AND THE OLIVE by David Hirst as a decent book.
Unless you are an exeption, you are probably the usual revleft character(+lousy student),I remember that there is a long british documentary,maybe by the BBC,In a few hours you get a general idea.
Try not to get involved in the jewish marxist debates: this is heavy stuff,difficult to digest even if you have been on the subject for years.The antizionist jews come in a rainbow spectrum.To me often they seem unable to be real antizionist.Somebody suggested you to read pieces by Tony Greensteen(spelling?)man,the guy went on a crusade against the ex iseaeli musician,Gilad Atzmon.And then other antizionist jews went after him.Final result: I had an headache.Get yourself involved with troskyte of jewish descent and you are done.You are not going to be very popular in your class, for sure.
Start simple,even wikipedia(as lousy as it is) can help,specially the articles at the end.And try to get something from the palestinian side;almost everything comes from jewish,scholars or not.
Edward Said was very good and quite honest,expecially before dying.In any case keep in mind that the whole narrative is under a pro israeli mindset and you have to make the extra effort to somehow balance things.
It took me quite some time to reach my present position(totally pro palestinian,you know the one state solution) and in the process I discovered that,more often than not, even in the left we had too much understanding/escuses for israel.And basically all of the story you get after the Holocaust(a real and tracic fact) was mythology.
I wish you kuck with your class, I hope the other comrades will not start some ideological debate on what is seems to me to be a simple request of assistance.
Ciao

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Hi,
if you know very little about this topic I should avoid going directly to neavy text.Especially in the jewish camp there are many different positions.



Try not to get involved in the jewish marxist debates: this is heavy stuff,difficult to digest even if you have been on the subject for years.The antizionist jews come in a rainbow spectrum.To me often they seem unable to be real antizionist.

What are you?

[OneNamedNameLess]

Hi,
if you know very little about this topic I should avoid going directly to neavy text.Especially in the jewish camp there are many different positions.I suggest you start with something general,possibly written by somebody not directly involved in the conflict.
I remember THE GUN AND THE OLIVE by David Hirst as a decent book.
Unless you are an exeption, you are probably the usual revleft character(+lousy student),I remember that there is a long british documentary,maybe by the BBC,In a few hours you get a general idea.
Try not to get involved in the jewish marxist debates: this is heavy stuff,difficult to digest even if you have been on the subject for years.The antizionist jews come in a rainbow spectrum.To me often they seem unable to be real antizionist.Somebody suggested you to read pieces by Tony Greensteen(spelling?)man,the guy went on a crusade against the ex iseaeli musician,Gilad Atzmon.And then other antizionist jews went after him.Final result: I had an headache.Get yourself involved with troskyte of jewish descent and you are done.You are not going to be very popular in your class, for sure.
Start simple,even wikipedia(as lousy as it is) can help,specially the articles at the end.And try to get something from the palestinian side;almost everything comes from jewish,scholars or not.
Edward Said was very good and quite honest,expecially before dying.In any case keep in mind that the whole narrative is under a pro israeli mindset and you have to make the extra effort to somehow balance things.
It took me quite some time to reach my present position(totally pro palestinian,you know the one state solution) and in the process I discovered that,more often than not, even in the left we had too much understanding/escuses for israel.And basically all of the story you get after the Holocaust(a real and tracic fact) was mythology.
I wish you kuck with your class, I hope the other comrades will not start some ideological debate on what is seems to me to be a simple request of assistance.
Ciao

What the fuck is this post is all about? I can't seem to establish what you are blabbering about here, but imo you appear to claim that anti zionist Jews cannot be true anti zionists. Why the fuck not? Many Jewish organisations who oppose Israel's actions exist, and they are just as determined as any anti zionist non Jew.

[The Idler]

Somebody suggested you to read pieces by Tony Greensteen(spelling?)man,the guy went on a crusade against the ex iseaeli musician,Gilad Atzmon.And then other antizionist jews went after him.Final result: I had an headache.Get yourself involved with troskyte of jewish descent and you are done.You are not going to be very popular in your class, for sure.Whatever you do, don't bother with the likes of SWP-favourite Gilad Atzmon who conflates Zionism with Judaism. If you insist, then read Tony Greensteins criticism of him first (http://www.google.com/search?q=Tony+Greenstein+on+Gilad+Atzmon). Someone mentioned Yossi Schwarz, I'd second that but was unable to find a website for him or his Israeli socialist organisation.

[The Idler]

For documentaries John Pilgers Palestine is Still the Issue, Jeremy Hardy v the Israeli Army and Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land NxB6n5zzri0Anything by John Pilger too.

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Sorry Apikoros. Since posting that I´ve kind of realized things were indeed inaccurate. :o

No worries, I didn't set out to try to one-up you or anything, I just thought that instead of responding with a fresh post to address some of the OP's questions, it would be easier to give some background in the context of a response to some mistaken claims and start from there.

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Hi,
if you know very little about this topic I should avoid going directly to neavy text.Especially in the jewish camp there are many different positions.I suggest you start with something general,possibly written by somebody not directly involved in the conflict.
I remember THE GUN AND THE OLIVE by David Hirst as a decent book.
Unless you are an exeption, you are probably the usual revleft character(+lousy student),I remember that there is a long british documentary,maybe by the BBC,In a few hours you get a general idea.
Try not to get involved in the jewish marxist debates: this is heavy stuff,difficult to digest even if you have been on the subject for years.The antizionist jews come in a rainbow spectrum.To me often they seem unable to be real antizionist.Somebody suggested you to read pieces by Tony Greensteen(spelling?)man,the guy went on a crusade against the ex iseaeli musician,Gilad Atzmon.And then other antizionist jews went after him.Final result: I had an headache.Get yourself involved with troskyte of jewish descent and you are done.You are not going to be very popular in your class, for sure.
Start simple,even wikipedia(as lousy as it is) can help,specially the articles at the end.And try to get something from the palestinian side;almost everything comes from jewish,scholars or not.
Edward Said was very good and quite honest,expecially before dying.In any case keep in mind that the whole narrative is under a pro israeli mindset and you have to make the extra effort to somehow balance things.
It took me quite some time to reach my present position(totally pro palestinian,you know the one state solution) and in the process I discovered that,more often than not, even in the left we had too much understanding/escuses for israel.And basically all of the story you get after the Holocaust(a real and tracic fact) was mythology.
I wish you kuck with your class, I hope the other comrades will not start some ideological debate on what is seems to me to be a simple request of assistance.
Ciao

What the hell is this about? As someone else noted, what difference does it make whether an anti-Zionist comrade is of Jewish descent when it comes to the issue of Zionism? Do you also believe we should not consult people of African descent on the issue of slavery or pan-Africanism? Should we not consult people of Chinese descent about Maoism? Or people of German descent about Nazism? Or people of Russian descent about Bolshevism? Or people of Irish descent about Northern Ireland?
Or maybe you'd be better suited elsewhere (http://www.***************/forum/)?
What a tool.

[leochaos]

Hi guys,
cool down,please.
I never wrote not to read jewish scholars of that jews should not be part of the pro palestinial fight.It would be a racist and stupid thing to say.
Actually,I would not have even written the post.I do not have a library,when I read a book I pass it over to othe people.So it is impossible for me to go and check things.i have always been interested in 'jewish studies" particurarly because as a kid I read a lot about the Shoah/Holocaust(I think it was Bertrand Russell who pushed me in that direction,when he considered the holocaust and the atomic bombings in japan as 2 terrible points in the history of mankink).
Clear on that?
I did write it because I was taken aback buy the fact that the 3 reccomended writers were all of jewish descent and also troskytes.I have read Brenner(or is it Bremmer?) and i found his books interesting.The other guy I do not know.Is it wrong to suggest reading also palestinian writers,if you can find any?.

The point on Gilad and Tony was NOT TO READ any of them.I mean, concerning an history class.I"ll explain why:
once I visited a web site called peace palestine or free palestine.Anyway i remember that it was run by an italian (maria Rizzo?).I must have been searching for something concerning Gaza.The main topic was about an israeli musician partecipating to some kind of concert for the socialist worker party.The polemic was pretty heavy so I checked it out.
I found the story of Atzom interesting on a personal level( an israeli who left israel and basically supported the palestinian,including Hamas).He had some essays on the "what does it mean to be a jew?'and one critizing what he called "jews for this or jews for that;he accused them of spending too much time on the internet writing about antisemitism in the palestinian movement. .Anybody can find his essays.Indeed a very unusual position for an israeli.But he was not a man of the left,maybe a free thinker
Tony G was accusing him of having a negative effect on the movement.His main critique was the the musician was consorting with holocaust deniers etc. I am sure there were other points,but this email would be too long.
I did not really follow the polemic because i frankly got bored.
On a superficial level I believe I thought that Tony was overdoing things(it was just a concert);I found Atzmon more interesting(he plays good jazz),but his 'open door" position
( I am not so sure about this, and musicians are known to change opinions pretty easily) that the main thing is just to support the palestinian,never mind what are your politics...well. that I did not like.Expecially when I found out that he was "involved" with at least 1 shadowy individual(better not to publicize that kind of characters,so i do not mention his name.A supposedly jewish russian who supposedly at one point had a political position in the labor party in israel.I did read some of his essays and the guy was jumping from right to left and back.To make things funnier he converted to hortodox christianity.After reading a piece about Greece,my country of origin, I knew that the guy(a skilled writer) did not make any sense.I try to be very cautious before putting a label on anybody,but we are indeed in or close to racism(and antisemitism),but only in some essays.
The fact that disturbed me was that for quite some times the main topic of a web site about palestine was an inter jewish feud.Zionism is indeed very important, but the web was about palestine,the main story should have been about the palestinian.The polemic about the musician should have been just a minor story.Instead it was so important that it went on and on ...absurd.I had noticed the same thing before.My point here is that antizionist jews should be working on trying to change things in israel or in the jewish diaspora.The palestians are deciding right now what they want/can do.Jewish/palestinian debate/criticism is necessary,but...something is wrong when a supposedly propalestinian web site seems to be more concerned wuth jewish problems(at one point, to be fair, Maria decided to close the topic.But the time/energy spent on it was immense.To be clear: unless my limited english may have created some confusion, I think that jews or israeli should/must be part of the struggle.Antizionist jews are indeed the only guys who may able,hopefully,to do something about the political mindset of the israeli masses.
End of the story.I hope this is ok with you.Fool is ok, but "who are you?" or maybe you should go "somewhere else' was not that nice to read.

I would suggest two things to the guys who immediately attacked me.Personally I do not really care if somebody calls me a tool(was it fool?).I tell it to myself many times.But,expecially in the learning section, it is better to write "you have a foolish idea".You probably do not know the person you are writing to, so how can you know if he is stupid or not?
Newcomers may well take it badly and just say goodbye to revleft...
Second, I may be wrong but the fact that you came up with 3 troskyte writers is a little suspicious.Please give newcomers a break.We have political forums where you can debate "ism".

And, for all the comrades who are native english speakers.Please remember that for us(the rest of the world) it may br difficult to articulate things as we would like to.We do not need the patronizing" your english is good". You should only think(from time to time) that it would be difficult for you to write something in another language.
Ok,I hope this would calm down things.By the way Apikoros, I have been a communist militant for many, many years.Autonomia operaia was a marxist movement.we had a debate about the necessity or not to build the revolutionary party.It was a difficult one,expecially regarding Lenin etc etc The State banned us as a terrorist organization(we were not) and one of the excuse they used was that some of our comrades were arrested transporting (big) things to the palestinian resistance.At the time the revolutionary left in palestina was a relevant force(and even an example for other countries).Things have now changed so I can say that my support for the one state solution and the resistance is more an opinion than anything else.
I take the opportunity to reply here to your post about a post I made avout Jeffrey Blackfort: I posted an article that he wrote about chomsky and israel/the Jewish lobby.everybody can easily find it on the net.I did not make any comment,I was just asking if anybody knew who the guy is.If he had any past/present political affiliation.In general I dig Chomsky so I would like to know something about somebody who is attacking him, supposedly from the left.I would call your reply not very useful;
you hightlighted a couple of sentences at the end of the article(about the fact that people on the 9/11 movement are accusing Chomsky of being a "gatekeeper" for the left) and then you made the comment that in the USA we call a guy like this a cracpot.
I was obiously interested on Chomsky and the jewish lobby,but somehow you diverted the whole thing to
the guy is somehow connected(is he?) to the 9/11 luna park therefore he is a crackpot.
I think that this is also the wrong way to do thing.
Somebody ask you a question.Who is B? If you have informations then put up a reply.B is this and that.Then I'll digest the information and come to an opinion,or at least i am closer to one.To say that somebody is a crackpot without explainig why is...useless.I had read the article that I sent,so I knew about the 9/11 part.Anyway,maybe I am wrong.Still I find strange that it seems than nobody knows much about JB.On the net they only say that he is a broadcater.writer/propalestinian activist.Years ago the Anti Defamation League(the main antisemitic watchdog in the usa) had to pay him a lot of money after B filed a lawsuit against them(they were spying in him,). His names pops up quite a lot on the net;expecially in Counterpunch.Just yesterday he was involved in a -failed- protest against the war in afghanistan in San francisco.Considering his heavy criticism of Chomsky I believe we should try to know who is the guy.
I am trying to understand the jewish lobby power in the USA.I am sure it is very influential, but the idea that it is able to control part of the foreign policy of the USA is hard to buy.
Take care and if I may say maybe you could use a techinique suggested by the Prophet Muhammed:
if you are upset and standing,sit on a chair a try to regain calm.If you are still upset then sit on the floor.Still upset ?
then lay down i tried it,it works(even for non muslim and communists),like me
Well, at least we both like HSThompson.But why do you up that picture(I think is one ex PM of israel,or am i wrong?).I am sure that Hunter would use Madonna as the symbol of modern zionism.

[leochaos]

What the fuck is this post is all about? I can't seem to establish what you are blabbering about here, but imo you appear to claim that anti zionist Jews cannot be true anti zionists. Why the fuck not? Many Jewish organisations who oppose Israel's actions exist, and they are just as determined as any anti zionist non Jew.

Hi,
I never wrote that..all I know is that some zionist organizations accuse others of..well, different thing.
See the maria Rizzo(free palestine or peace palestine,not sure) versus tony G(jews for justice or maybe they have a different name now).
Ask them.
I used to be involved with palestinians in the past(but even then not much,I was working in a different section),and at the moment I know very little.if i have the time I would like to start a discussion of what has happened to the revolutionary left in Gaza.Obiously my main concen is about the palestinian,but I would like to know more on the other side.
It seems that you know about militant jewish antizionist groups.If you have the time may you let me know what are they doing.
as far as I know the most active group in israel are the Anarchists against the wall.And I know that soldiers refuse to serve in the occupied territories;I also know that groups of israeli women go and monitor checkpoints for human right violation.
Hopefully there is something more and you can let (me) us know.
Even if you see to be upset with me I am asking this because I would like to have the informations.It would be good to know that some revolutionary israeli group is active.
Take care

[JJM 777]

Everyone, including Palestinians themselves, has a different idea, what the exact solution should be to the conflict. Here is a link to my online booklet about this topic. At least the photo galleries (Common Ground) are quite extensive, and the travelogue section might be of some interest, but they display the currently Israeli side only, plus a quick visit to Jericho.

www co-ground com