How to end ALL racism

[sandragnash]

I've been thinking about the current problems we see in the West, with large scale immigration, and the rise of the BNP as a result of this.
(At least, I presume that it's the increasing number of immigrants that is causing so many more people to vote BNP today, than say, thirty years ago.)

So how about this for an idea: we tell all the racist whites that they can form their own country, perhaps in the Highlands of Scotland, somewhere that is largely uninhabited. We partition that piece of Scotland off, turning it into a new country. Result: ALL the racist whites will move there, guaranteed, to get away from the immigrants that they hate so much.

Result: no more racism - ever.

No more will blacks and asians have to wonder whether the white person interviewing them for a job is a closet racist - because all of the racist whites are bound to go and live in the all white country. So every white person who remains in this country will obviously not be racist, and then all the problems will be solved.

What do you think? Is this a crazy idea? I can't see how we are going to convince so many millions of white racists that they are wrong - from talking to enough of them, they just want to live in an all white country "the way it used to be", and the more immigrants they see, the more they hate living with them.

[thejambo1]

it is certainly one of the most stupidest things ive seen on revleft and this takes the biscuit. absolutely barking! every time someone wants to dump all the shite they say "up in the highlands of scotland" do you not think if you give these people a country of their own they will be happy with that? they would undoubtably cast their eyes to neighbouring countries. why would some racist fuckwit happily leave london to go and live up in the north of scotland? anyway i live up in the north of scotland and we have enough problems without thousands of meat-heads been dumped here.:rolleyes:

[sandragnash]

Forget about the Scottish Highlands.
What if one of the states of the United States, which is currently majority white, voted to secede from the union, and also to become an 'all white' state.

Wouldn't all the racist whites in the U.S. be desperate to move there? Wouldn't that remove all the racist whites from all the other states in which they currently live, where they are no doubt preventing blacks and asians from getting jobs, arresting black men for no reason, etc.?

At the moment, there are presumably millions of racist whites who can't get away from 'non-whites' (is that the correct term?), so they continue to make non-whites' lives a misery. If they had somewhere to go, which was all white, wouldn't the vast majority of them move there?

Can some blacks or asians here, who have experienced 'non-obvious' discrimination from whites, talk about it? You know - you meet somebody who is white and while they aren't openly hostile towards you, you feel that they don't like you because of the colour of your skin, but don't say it. But then they do something which you think may be because they are racist - but you can't tell, because they would never say it to your face.

[sandragnash]

To see whether this is a viable solution, what percentage of the white population of, say, the United States, do you think would want to move to the all white state?

[ls]

it is certainly one of the most stupidest things ive seen on revleft and this takes the biscuit. absolutely barking! every time someone wants to dump all the shite they say "up in the highlands of scotland" do you not think if you give these people a country of their own they will be happy with that? they would undoubtably cast their eyes to neighbouring countries. why would some racist fuckwit happily leave london to go and live up in the north of scotland? anyway i live up in the north of scotland and we have enough problems without thousands of meat-heads been dumped here.:rolleyes:

:laugh:

I go to the Scottish highlands just so I can take a dump on its BASTARD green, green grass. Only kidding.

You are right though, this is a ridiculous idea, that's all that need be said.

[sandragnash]

Apart from saying it's a ridiculous idea, do you have anything to add to the discussion?
Are you aware that several states in the U.S. have a majority who wish to secede? (Because some states, such as California, are bankrupt, and are therefore dragging all the other states down with them.)

How do you propose we get rid of racist whites? By continuing what we have been doing for the past fifty years? Has it worked? Last time I looked, racism was still alive and well.

[ls]

No I don't have anything to add, it's a ridiculous idea and that's that.

[RedAnarchist]

This plan of yours would only get rid of white racism. What about anti-black racism by Asians, or vice versa?

Another reason that it's unviable is that the conditions that cause racism will still be there, and the racists that go to the all-white country will just be replaced by another bunch of racists.

[sandragnash]

Okay, you've lost me here.
Getting rid of white racism is not a good thing, because it doesn't get rid of asian-black racism, or black-asian racism?

I wasn't aware that asians or blacks held much power in this country, or the U.S., for example, so I am trying to end the WORST kind of racism.

I think you're confused: how is it possible for the white racists who leave to be "replaced by another bunch of racists" - do you mean white racists? Because obviously any white person who grew up in the non-racist country and yet still was a racist, would leave at the first opportunity, presumably when they are 16.
If you mean non-whites being racist towards each other - I don't understand what you mean. Surely the majority of whites would stay in the non-racist country, with all the non-whites, and therefore everything would be infinitely better for non-whites - because there would literally be no more racist whites living among them, having power over them, stopping them from getting jobs, houses, etc.

[RedAnarchist]

Okay, you've lost me here.
Getting rid of white racism is not a good thing, because it doesn't get rid of asian-black racism, or black-asian racism?

No, but only targeting one form of racism won't get rid of all forms. It's like targeting lung cancer and hoping to get rid of all cancers. Lung cancer maybe the most common and one of the worst, but it's not the only cancer in existence.

[Muzk]

hehe this is more like a joke, noone wants to move away from a country because people immigrated it, that's just what the racists think - subhumans taking over their beloved white places

[Radical]

End Ethnic Nationalism today!
Encourage Mixed Race Re-Production!

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

End Ethnic Nationalism today!
Encourage Mixed Race Re-Production!

Arnt you the guy who things all first world babies should be aborted by law.

[Muzk]

Arnt you the guy who things all first world babies should be aborted by law.


He uses a lot of sarcasm, I would say

[Radical]

Arnt you the guy who things all first world babies should be aborted by law.

No, I think you're misunderstanding me with propaganda spread by armchair socialists

Dont believe everything you read young one

[RotStern]

ROFL This is pure genius!
Yes the racists will absolutely leave the country they love so much and are 'doing a favor' by beating up immigrants to go to the Highlands of Scotland.
Rofl.
xD

[ls]

No, I think you're misunderstanding me with propaganda spread by armchair socialists

Dont believe everything you read young one

You believe in forced first-world adoption of third-world children and yo uthink the gulags were a good idea.

That says more than enough about your politics to me.

[Radical]

You believe in forced first-world adoption of third-world children and yo uthink the gulags were a good idea.

That says more than enough about your politics to me.

No I dont. Theres a huge difference between forcing a mother to have an abortion and encouraging mothers to adopt from the third world, rather than have an endless number of babies that could have instead saved the lives of dieing children.

Please source me where I proposed "forced" abortion.

[ls]

I never said you believe in forced abortion you idiot, can't you read?

It wouldn't surprise me if you did however, you've also never condemned it.

[Radical]

I never said you forced abortion idiot, can't you read?

No I dident. I have never advocated "forced" abortions. What I have said is the above. Encouraging mothers to instead adopt from the third world. As every time a mother has another child, it allows a child from the third world to starve to death.

[ls]

I remember you saying in chat that mothers from the first-world "shouldn't be allowed to have a second baby, other than one adopted from the third-world".

That is what you said, what it implies is a different matter.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

The issue in regards to population is not there are too many people in the first world but that there is an amazingly inefficent economic system in place in the third world. However you being a mentalist resort to not eating at macdonolds and baby banning. (Yet you advotivate it here unlike the other thread).

[sandragnash]

ROFL This is pure genius!
Yes the racists will absolutely leave the country they love so much and are 'doing a favor' by beating up immigrants to go to the Highlands of Scotland.
Rofl.
xD

Ignore my earlier suggestion of the Highlands of Scotland.

Look at the possibility of a mainly white state in the United States, seceding.
Wouldn't it be better if all the racist whites would move there?

I don't see how this could possibly not be a good thing. Imagine - no more racist whites (albeit closet ones) in the government. So no more racist decisions being made against black people in the United States. No more racist white police officers. No longer would blacks have to distrust most of the whites they met, (I mean the ones who have power over them), because all the racist ones would have left.

[Muzk]

Lol, the next day this white state would do wars. Because they are superior to others! By the way, this thread is more of a joke than a serious discussion :o

[Radical]

I remember you saying in chat that mothers from the first-world "shouldn't be allowed to have a second baby, other than one adopted from the third-world".

That is what you said, what it implies is a different matter.

No, what I said in chat was that mothers are selfish when they have children just because of the fact they want to continue their bloodline. I have never advocated "forced" abortion.

[Myuniform]

ROFL This is pure genius!
Yes the racists will absolutely leave the country they love so much and are 'doing a favor' by beating up immigrants to go to the Highlands of Scotland.
Rofl.
xD

Are you fucking kidding me?
I would move. A lot of racists people like me would move without any question. Specially poor whites that have been denied any sort compassion from scums like you. Never read about the North West territory idea (a complete stupidity) from north american white nationalists?

The problem is that all of you are scared of this idea.
You know how would an all white country would result, and you are scared of the success it will have.
You think all racists are poor illiterate people (in this case, only evil when their skin is white, oppressed when colored), but you know how many "dangerous" whites would move there.
With your pathetic excuses of "white privilege" you would turn your own non-racists whites into full blown skinheads after pointing at them when your monkey pets could not make your country work.

By the way, RedAnarchist, didn't you read the book? Only white people can be racist? You want to get the indian in charge mad?

I must go, the Indian in charge might be already stopped her anger at those negro loving white teenagers he hate so much after they "silently" treated her different.
Hahaha, she might also be using a bleach cream to look like a bollywood actress.

You need to start to investigate why you filthy scum are driving whites into parties like the BNP .

White Pride Worldwide.
We will rule the earth again, and it will be all your fault.

[Muzk]

White Pride Worldwide.
We will rule the earth again, and it will be all your fault.
Again? You never ruled earth o_O
And who is 'we' anyways? A bunch of angry whites, crying because they lost their jobs to someone better and now you blame your jewish leaders? XD


http://www.ampedgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/banhammer15gq9.jpg


your own non-racists whites into full blown skinheadsSkinheads aren't racist =) You're an ugly white boneeehead!


Someone else noticed he replies with a serious, angry answer to a joke thread?

[OneNamedNameLess]

What about the millions of Britons living abroad? Thousands of British professionals work in countries like India and the UAE. Spain, France, Italy, Australia, Canada, the USA, Singapore, Thailand and so on. Waves of Euro immigrants settled in South America most prominently Argentina.

Here is some info and stats to support my claims:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/in_depth/brits_abroad/html/default.stm

An estimated 5.5 million. Not just those bloody blacks is it?

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Are you fucking kidding me?
I would move. A lot of racists people like me would move without any question. Specially poor whites that have been denied any sort compassion from scums like you. Never read about the North West territory idea (a complete stupidity) from north american white nationalists?

The problem is that all of you are scared of this idea.
You know how would an all white country would result, and you are scared of the success it will have.
You think all racists are poor illiterate people (in this case, only evil when their skin is white, oppressed when colored), but you know how many "dangerous" whites would move there.
With your pathetic excuses of "white privilege" you would turn your own non-racists whites into full blown skinheads after pointing at them when your monkey pets could not make your country work.

By the way, RedAnarchist, didn't you read the book? Only white people can be racist? You want to get the indian in charge mad?

I must go, the Indian in charge might be already stopped her anger at those negro loving white teenagers he hate so much after they "silently" treated her different.
Hahaha, she might also be using a bleach cream to look like a bollywood actress.

You need to start to investigate why you filthy scum are driving whites into parties like the BNP .

White Pride Worldwide.
We will rule the earth again, and it will be all your fault.

I want to sex you so hard.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Again? You never ruled earth o_O
A bunch of angry whites, crying because they lost their jobs to someone better


Dont spout shit many people I know lost their jobs due to the state's failure to house immigrants and encourage them to be in areas where they are needed as opposed to ones in which there is high unemployment already.

[RedAnarchist]

Are you fucking kidding me?
I would move. A lot of racists people like me would move without any question. Specially poor whites that have been denied any sort compassion from scums like you. Never read about the North West territory idea (a complete stupidity) from north american white nationalists?

The problem is that all of you are scared of this idea.
You know how would an all white country would result, and you are scared of the success it will have.
You think all racists are poor illiterate people (in this case, only evil when their skin is white, oppressed when colored), but you know how many "dangerous" whites would move there.
With your pathetic excuses of "white privilege" you would turn your own non-racists whites into full blown skinheads after pointing at them when your monkey pets could not make your country work.

By the way, RedAnarchist, didn't you read the book? Only white people can be racist? You want to get the indian in charge mad?

I must go, the Indian in charge might be already stopped her anger at those negro loving white teenagers he hate so much after they "silently" treated her different.
Hahaha, she might also be using a bleach cream to look like a bollywood actress.

You need to start to investigate why you filthy scum are driving whites into parties like the BNP .

White Pride Worldwide.
We will rule the earth again, and it will be all your fault.

Duh? Dur dur duh derp? White Pride derpy derpy!:wub:

Banned.

[Muzk]

Dont spout shit many people I know lost their jobs due to the state's failure to house immigrants and encourage them to be in areas where they are needed as opposed to ones in which there is high unemployment already.


Don't take it too serious mah boi

I based my reply to some comic I've seen. Don't want to go into much detail here

[OneNamedNameLess]

Come on guys, reply with a productive post please. This gets us nowhere and feeds the far right with their usual nonsense. We shouldn't ban this guy straight away. I think debating with shithead trolls isn't a bad idea before the ban.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Don't take it too serious mah boi

Yeah but that kinda shit is about as suicidal as adolf's pills.

[Muzk]

I think debating with shithead trolls isn't a bad idea before the ban.


They WON'T change. They come here with the usual shit like 'they are all jews!' in their head. Propaganda or whatever hit them hard

And the last time a troll didn't get banned he opened lots of anti commie threads, you know who I mean.
But I think this troll was lurking most of the time, and now came here just to reply to the thread that DEEPLY OFFENDED HIS BELIEFS

[RedAnarchist]

Bit late. Besides, the troll was from Mexico, so I doubt he really holds white nationalist beliefs (I don't think there are are WNs in Mexico, lucky Mexicans).

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Come on guys, reply with a productive post please. This gets us nowhere and feeds the far right with their usual nonsense. We shouldn't ban this guy straight away. I think debating with shithead trolls isn't a bad idea before the ban.

Mate if i wanted to debate with a load of people who think

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/ulstersocialist/jeremydream.jpg

is the master race then id visit stormfront or if I had any sense left id see a doctor.

[Muzk]

That pic is so awesome

[sandragnash]

What about the millions of Britons living abroad? Thousands of British professionals work in countries like India and the UAE. Spain, France, Italy, Australia, Canada, the USA, Singapore, Thailand and so on. Waves of Euro immigrants settled in South America most prominently Argentina.

Here is some info and stats to support my claims:


An estimated 5.5 million. Not just those bloody blacks is it?

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean. What about the millions of Britons living abroad?
I don't understand what you are trying to say here.

(Sorry, I had to delete your link because it won't even allow me to quote them until I've posted 25 times! - very odd)

[sandragnash]

I thought I explained it very simply in my first post.
We currently have plenty of racist whites who are in positions of power over non-whites (if that is the correct term, I hope I'm not causing offense by using it, but I merely want to include everybody who isn't white under one simple term.)
Non-whites suffer racism every day as a result of this. I am sure that most of those racist whites would, if given a choice, move to an all white state in the U.S.
They would form their own country, no longer able to control or govern ANY non-whites (because obviously no non-whites would be allowed in the 'all white' stage).

Therefore the ONLY whites who would remain living with non-whites, would be the ones who WANT to live with them, and they would obviously not be racist (unless they were masochists too!).

Therefore all the current racism committed by whites against non-whites would end.

There are millions of people living in the U.S. who want their state to secede from the union, this is not an impossibility.

So would it not be a good thing if all the white racists left?

[OneNamedNameLess]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean. What about the millions of Britons living abroad?
I don't understand what you are trying to say here.

(Sorry, I had to delete your link because it won't even allow me to quote them until I've posted 25 times! - very odd)

I thought he was from the UK so I used Brits as an example. He claims that non white immigrants are greatly harming the lives of native whites. In response, I referred to European immigration particularly the current high number of Brits living abroad to establish that we too seek a better life abroad, and that a great number of whites also emmigrate in the modern world and historically.

[gorillafuck]

So how about this for an idea: we tell all the racist whites that they can form their own country, perhaps in the Highlands of Scotland, somewhere that is largely uninhabited.
What about the people that already live in the highlands of Scotland (or any place where you'd propose setting up an all white country)? That would fucking suck for them.


We partition that piece of Scotland off, turning it into a new country. Result: ALL the racist whites will move there, guaranteed, to get away from the immigrants that they hate so much.
1. A lot of people would probably want to stay where they live even if the idea did sound appealing to them
2. Just because someone is racist doesn't mean they are a white separatist
3. A lot of people aren't aware that they are racist


Your idea is really bad.

[fiddlesticks]

I'm sorry if this comes off as being a little too ridiculous but I have always thought the only way for racism to really die is if/when we discover intelligent life on another planet, because at that point we are no longer "Americans", "Indians" , "Africans" and so on but we will be earthlings, all dwelling one planet. Though there will probably still be some dipshits somewhere that will be racist but for the most part the discovery of intelligent life in space would be a unifying event, or atleast I hope so.

[OneNamedNameLess]

Please don't send a bunch of Nazi nutters up to the most beautiful and rural part of the country where I currently live!

[Dr Mindbender]

Wait, this doesnt end racism, it just creates a racist country.

[sandragnash]

Wait, this doesnt end racism, it just creates a racist country.

How does it not end racism?
If no racist whites are living among non-whites in all the other states of the U.S. (for example), only whites who want to live with non-whites, then all racism is ended.

What is a "racist country"? If the racist whites all move to one state, and secede, then they have no more power over non-whites, anywhere.

I can't see how this is not a solution to the problem.
Currently, there are millions of racist whites in positions of power over non-whites, whether it be in the police, in the judiciary, in the government, owners of businesses, or other staff who interview for jobs, etc.
This would end all racism. Racist whites are clearly not going to stay in a multicultural area, if they can move to an all white country.

[gorillafuck]

How does it not end racism?
If no racist whites are living among non-whites in all the other states of the U.S. (for example), only whites who want to live with non-whites, then all racism is ended.
It wouldn't end all racism because not all racist whites would move to an all white country, for reasons I already said.


What is a "racist country"? If the racist whites all move to one state, and secede, then they have no more power over non-whites, anywhere.
A racist country is a country founded on racist principles and with racist policies. Creating a white only country is obviously founding a country on racist principles.

And you'd be royally screwing over the people of wherever you'd wanna put this country.

[sandragnash]

It wouldn't end all racism because not all racist whites would move to an all white country, for reasons I already said.


So you're saying that racist whites, who literally can't stand being around people of other races, would voluntarily choose to live among them? Have you any evidence for this?
I have overwhelming evidence to the contrary: do you want to hear it?




A racist country is a country founded on racist principles and with racist policies. Creating a white only country is obviously founding a country on racist principles.



And what of China, India, all of Africa, and dare I say it, Pakistan? Pakistan is a country for muslims only. Is that 'racist' and therefore not allowed?



And you'd be royally screwing over the people of wherever you'd wanna put this country.


Did you not read my previous posts? How would I be royalling screwing over the whites who already lived there? I obviously wouldn't put it in the centre of London!

Can you perhaps explain why some states in the U.S. are more than 90% white, whereas others are not?

Can you also explain how Savile Town in the U.K. is 100% muslim now? Why aren't white people moving into it?

[RedAnarchist]

Can you perhaps explain why some states in the U.S. are more than 90% white, whereas others are not?

Some states are mostly white because of the lack of slaves there before abolition, and due to the lack of black/asian/hispanic immigration there.


Can you also explain how Savile Town in the U.K. is 100% muslim now? Why aren't white people moving into it?

Some Muslims are white, I don't understand why you don't think white Muslims exist.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Please don't send a bunch of Nazi nutters up to the most beautiful and rural part of the country where I currently live!

Got enough already?

[Zolken]

I've been thinking about the current problems we see in the West, with large scale immigration, and the rise of the BNP as a result of this.
(At least, I presume that it's the increasing number of immigrants that is causing so many more people to vote BNP today, than say, thirty years ago.)

So how about this for an idea: we tell all the racist whites that they can form their own country, perhaps in the Highlands of Scotland, somewhere that is largely uninhabited. We partition that piece of Scotland off, turning it into a new country. Result: ALL the racist whites will move there, guaranteed, to get away from the immigrants that they hate so much. Why particularly Scotland?


Result: no more racism - ever. Really?


No more will blacks and asians have to wonder whether the white person interviewing them for a job is a closet racist - because all of the racist whites are bound to go and live in the all white country. So every white person who remains in this country will obviously not be racist, and then all the problems will be solved. Do you honestly believe that white people have a monopoly on racism? (which by the way makes you appear to be quite a racist yourself).


What do you think? Is this a crazy idea? I can't see how we are going to convince so many millions of white racists that they are wrong - from talking to enough of them, they just want to live in an all white country "the way it used to be", and the more immigrants they see, the more they hate living with them. What makes you believe that only white people are bigots? What of the bitter animosity that exists between Jews and Palestinians? What of the hatred between blacks and Latinos? Then there's the hatred and suspicion of Asians by blacks as well as by whites. In truth, regardless the particular people in question it is a constant sad reality that racism exists in all of mankind.

[RedAnarchist]

What makes you believe that only white people are bigots? What of the bitter animosity that exists between Jews and Palestinians? What of the hatred between blacks and Latinos? Then there's the hatred and suspicion of Asians by blacks as well as by whites. In truth, regardless the particular people in question it is a constant sad reality that racism exists in all of mankind.

Jews and Palestinians are white, though.

People will always hate people that are different from them.

[ls]

Jews and Palestinians are white, though.

People will always hate people that are different from them.

White is such a subjective term. North Africans could be considered 'white', lighter skinned Indians could probably be considered 'white' too.

Does being 'white' stop white supremacists from hating Jews? They even go as far as to back Palestine sometimes in an attempt at populist rhetoric shit-spouting.

Why, some Dutch nationalist anarchists recently backed the 'free tibet' campaign too:
http://afadenhaag.antifa.net/pictures/n-a-tibetan-rally_small.jpg
(http://www.revleft.com/vb/artikel-nationaal-anarchisten-t114825/index.html)

It just goes to show how racism/fascism is a completely contradictory, baseless, nonsensical and backward ideology that seeks to destroy everything the world has gained for itself so far.

[OneNamedNameLess]

Got enough already?

We don't have many tbh, but we do have some Nazis in denial most commonly known as fans of Glasgow Rangers FC.

[willdw79]

No I dont. Theres a huge difference between forcing a mother to have an abortion and encouraging mothers to adopt from the third world, rather than have an endless number of babies that could have instead saved the lives of dieing children.

Please source me where I proposed "forced" abortion.




Who are you calling an armchair marxist? Where do you get the nerve. You are a know-it-all hero worshiper with no revolutionary understanding evident in any post of yours that I have read.

You probably run around trying to sound cool and defiant, but nothing that you have posted here can get anyone out of their armchair.

I couldn't imagine anyone being able to agree with your mish-mash of unframed position pieces that are about as profound as 2pac is a revolutionary.

Here are some highlights:

1.Theres a huge difference between forcing a mother to have an abortion and encouraging mothers to adopt from the third world, rather than have an endless number of babies that could have instead saved the lives of dieing children. (Blaming structural failures of Capitalism on the working class)

2. Tupac diden't study Communism. As he lived in USA he probably just assumed what everybody said about it(Right-Wing Propaganda ect..). I hold Tupac in my heart as one of the greatest Revolutionaries up there with Che Guevara, Malcom X, Fidel Castro and Martin Luther King. He gave his life to the oppressed and forgotten. [simplistic analasis/lacks initiative and even the most basic amount of research]that leads you to promote mistruths (Pac grew up around many communists and had read many books written by communists, he just wasn't one) Source, M.E. Dyson's biography of Pac]

3. Tupac diagnosed a Philosophy called "Thug Life". It means "The Hate U Gave Little Infants Fucks Everybody". It means, what you feed us as seeds, grows and then explodes in your face. When Tupac said he was a Thug, he dident mean he wanted to rob and rape people. He meant that he was a thug because he came from the gutter and survived. Thats Thug Life. (defeatism and nihlism are no substitutes for revolution)

4.Quote: Originally Posted by ls
And Marx was homophobic, you approve of Tupac's stance on this however don't you?
Didn't you get suspended for a while because of this shit before?

[how does radical respond?]

Speaking factually about somebodys views is not homophobic. How about you get off my dick for a while and stop posting in my threads. (disingenous defensiveness to avoid self-criticism!)

5. When Tupac spoke of "hoes". He meant women that sleep around with anybody for money. He believed they disrespected themselves. Tupac dident mean "Hoe" as in to say that women that sleep around a lot are hoes. "Hoe" is just another word for a Prostitute. He used it in this way because he dident like the way women disrespect themself for money. Tupac was a young man, I'm not saying everything what he said was always right. However he's just human and made mistakes as we all do.

When Tupac called females "*****es". He believed a ***** was somebody that was "stuck-up", that thought they could sleep with anybody and use them for money. Tupac had nothing against people that had sex a lot. (sexism, identity politics, hero worship/cult of the individual)

6. If you cant get a job, fuck it. Get a job and work in a charity shop. Work for free. Give blood. HELP HUMANITY AND DONT JUST THINK ABOUT YOUR FUCKING SELF.
Just because somebody advocates Revolution, doesn't mean I'm going to suck their dick and respect them. (What a terrible analysis of the situation workers face. Go out and volunteer to support to put lipstick on the capitalist pig! You might as well just say it, "I won't suck workers dicks, but for 2Pac, all I got to say is "ahh")



I would rather someone be an "armchair marxist" then an active reactionary who advocates for sexism, nihlism and the glorification of people like 2Pac who has gotten more little black boys killed trying live his imaginary "Thug Life" instead of identifying their material conditions within this Capitalist "hood" shithole you act like you love so much.

Oh yeah, I listened to some of your music, garbage, take it from a man who grew up in the hood that you seem to love so much for its "resistance" aka "fucked up gang violence that pits worker against worker".

[counterblast]

I find this solution, besides being a little offensive, completely illogical. You would forcefully uproot ALL people of color from Scotland to cater to the demands of racists?


And you don't deal with racists by "talking" to them...

[Robocommie]

I say we get people from every race on earth together, for one big footrace. A sort of "race race" if you will. And then the winner of that race race, gets to have their laundry done by all the other races for a week.

And we'll do this again every week.

Or perhaps we'll have a dart board and each section will be labeled as a different race, and then we'll throw a dart at this board. And the race whose section is hit gets to be King Race for a year.

[Rusty Shackleford]

My mind melted from this thread.

Racism does not end when racism is tucked away behind a hill in some unseen country. there is still racism. and if a person that is not of the race specified to live in the country is not allowed to live there, then RACISM STILL EXISTS.

its like sweeping dust under a rug. it may look nicer and you will think its gone, but, its still fucking there. it does not solve anything but prolong the problem. and over time, this pile of dust builds up (if not taken care of) and spills out of under the rug.

What is racism? taking one race, thinking its superior, and thinking other races are sub-par. it is in the mind, not genetic or anything like that. it is developed. how do you end racism? education. Another easy way to defeat racism, is by avoiding seeing things along racial lines.