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GracchusBabeuf
29th August 2009, 20:13
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Ohnoatard
29th August 2009, 20:55
*Cricket*

Ismail
30th August 2009, 00:12
Any of our resident Stalinists want to defend the Burmese "socialist" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burmese_Way_to_Socialism)regime?Do you see us defending Chinese "socialism"? No? Then why would we defend Burmese "socialism"?

Ismail
30th August 2009, 00:36
Apparently you haven't heard of PSL.The PSL doesn't represent all of "Stalinism" by far. Maoists and Hoxhaists would consider it revisionist, for example for defending state-capitalism and social-imperialism.

manic expression
30th August 2009, 00:53
Apparently you haven't heard of PSL.

Apparently you haven't heard of nuance.

The PSL's view on the PRC takes into account the different contradictions at play. The PSL recognizes that whatever progressive changes are to come, they are more likely to come from within the CPC than from without it, but there is far more to it than that. With the above in mind, the PSL takes this position:

By that definition [of communism laid out by Engels in 1847], it is clear that the road taken by the Communist Party of China since 1978, following the death of Mao Zedong and the defeat of his supporters within the CPC, has been in the opposite direction from communism -- notwithstanding all the party's public declarations.

From "China: Revolution and Counterrevolution"

It goes on to specify how and why this direction towards capitalism was taken, and what is to be done to change it.

Revy
30th August 2009, 06:21
Burma has been ruled by a military junta since 1988. The socialist ideology was dropped. The Communist Party of Burma is illegal, operates underground and opposes the government.

Kukulofori
30th August 2009, 19:32
The Burmese Way to Socialism was LAST dictatorship. Those guys got overthrown by the current dictatorship.

SocialismOrBarbarism
30th August 2009, 20:10
The PSL recognizes that whatever progressive changes are to come, they are more likely to come from within the CPC than from without it

How could you possibly come to that conclusion?

Das war einmal
30th August 2009, 20:49
Any of our resident Stalinists want to defend the Burmese "socialist" (http://www.anonym.to/?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burmese_Way_to_Socialism)regime?

No Birma has a military junta and its far from socialist. If it where it would have been announced in every western news report.

rednordman
30th August 2009, 20:53
Burma has a dreadfull regime that do not know what they are doing. Im sorry but they are not Stalinist or even socialist. I think they are: Lets-not-have-an-idiology-but-just-oppress-our-own-people-ist...

Also thing the artist formally know as Kijuna is infact correct also.

Niccolò Rossi
31st August 2009, 07:01
I don't think there are any Stalinists who defend Myanmar as a socialist state. However, there are Trotskyists like the CWI, which, last time I checked, defended Myanmar and Syria as deformed workers' states alongside North Korea, Cuba, Laos and Vietnam.

Maybe one of the CWI cadres on the board could confirm or clarify this and state their position on these recent actions by the Burmese military.