Definitive proof that the moon landings were fake

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

A treasured piece at the Dutch national museum - a supposed moon rock from the first manned lunar landing - is nothing more than petrified wood, curators say. It was given to former Prime Minister Willem Drees during a goodwill tour by the three Apollo-11 astronauts shortly after their moon mission in 1969.
When Mr Drees died, the rock went on display at the Amsterdam museum.

[...]

The US agency gave moon rocks to more than 100 countries following lunar missions in the 1970s.
US officials said they had no explanation for the Dutch discovery.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8226075.stm

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

OK, so that's one example. What about the rest of the Moon rocks? Unless you were being ironic/sarcastic in your choice of topic title, I'm disappointed. I thought you were smarter than to believe in conspiracy theories like this.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

yeah, I was being sarcastic

what I found most interesting about this was the US's use of fake moon rocks to buy diplomatic goodwill during the cold war

[Coggeh]

OK, so that's one example. What about the rest of the Moon rocks? Unless you were being ironic/sarcastic in your choice of topic title, I'm disappointed. I thought you were smarter than to believe in conspiracy theories like this.
Aye.


yeah, I was being sarcastic

what I found most interesting about this was the US's use of fake moon rocks to buy diplomatic goodwill during the cold war

Oh.Fair enough.:)

[*Viva La Revolucion*]

Glad you were being sarcastic; for a minute I actually thought you believed this stuff.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

what I found most interesting about this was the US's use of fake moon rocks to buy diplomatic goodwill during the cold war

Now that's a "conspiracy theory" I can believe in. :lol: What surprises me is why it took so long for the fake to be exposed.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

goodwill, pehaps
:lol:

[Revy]

Yeah, they went to the moon, but by their own admission, they had witnessed UFO's all throughout their mission.

I get irritated when some people think UFO's are somehow outlandish when the very people who have been to outer space insist they have seen them and have been observed by them.

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

Maybe this just means that there are trees on the moon.

[eyedrop]

Yeah, they went to the moon, but by their own admission, they had witnessed UFO's all throughout their mission.

I get irritated when some people think UFO's are somehow outlandish when the very people who have been to outer space insist they have seen them and have been observed by them.
Sources and evidence for claims needed.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Yeah, they went to the moon, but by their own admission, they had witnessed UFO's all throughout their mission.

It wasn't NASA as an organisation that admitted such, but the testimony of individual astronauts. Even then, such testimony is quite meaningless - after all, a UFO is supposed to be unidentified. So they saw something they couldn't identify? Big deal, it doesn't mean space aliens.


I get irritated when some people think UFO's are somehow outlandish when the very people who have been to outer space insist they have seen them and have been observed by them.

Let's see, which is more likely, that astronauts saw something which they could not identify, or that astronauts saw an alien spacecraft when we have no other evidence whatsoever for their existence?

[thethinkingchimp]

Apollo 11 left retroreflective mirrors on the moon to provide observatories on earth with a means to accurately determine the distances between the earth and the moon. The method is preformed by observing the delay in time it takes for laser light to return to earth after being reflected by this device. The mirrors are used regularly by equipped observatories across the globe. It may be true that other moon landings were faked, but for Apollo 11 it would seem difficult to refute.

cornell: curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=124

[Orange Juche]

Yeah, they went to the moon, but by their own admission, they had witnessed UFO's all throughout their mission.

I get irritated when some people think UFO's are somehow outlandish when the very people who have been to outer space insist they have seen them and have been observed by them.

If by "UFO" you mean "Alien Spacecraft," it is viewed as outlandish because, despite a great deal of claims, there is not a shred of evidence. And in legitimate cases where people actually saw "something," there often ends up being a reasonable explanation.

[ComradeOm]

In recent news, Armstrong himself (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/conspiracy_theorist_convinces_neil) has declared the moon landings to be fake

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

In recent news, Armstrong himself (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/conspiracy_theorist_convinces_neil) has declared the moon landings to be fake

Ooops (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8237558.stm)

[thethinkingchimp]

I love the onion! It such a funny newspaper. I read the onion article when it came out, they said Armstong was convinced the landing was fake after watching some youtube videos.:laugh:

[Luís Henrique]

Nonsence.

The moon itself is fake.

The Americans stole it and replaced it with a second rate copy.

I wonder why the left refuses to understand this Truth.

Luís Henrique

[Leo]

You are obviously right Luis Henrique.

And everyone knows that the reason why the Americans stole the moon was because the moon was actually a cookie.

[Luís Henrique]

You are obviously right Luis Henrique.

As always. Ça va sans dire.


And everyone knows that the reason why the Americans stole the moon was because the moon was actually a cookie.

Or cheese.

But they stole it because the soviets were going to reach there first, Sputnik and all.

And because building a fake moon in aluminiun and neon was necessary to find an outlet for their overproduction.

Luís Henrique

[Leo]

Or cheese.

But they stole it because the soviets were going to reach there first, Sputnik and all.

And because building a fake moon in aluminiun and neon was necessary to find an outlet for their overproduction.Yes, but this time you are missing the main point - it definately was a cookie. There is a really dark reason why both the Americans and the Soviets wanted to get the moon. The Americans had another outlet they previously used for their overproduction, an outlet which got horribly wrong: the Cookie Monster, and stealing the moon was a covert operation to feed him. There is undeniable evidence: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoNAT8ZYbvw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoNAT8ZYbvw)

The Soviet Cookie Monster, of course, ended up eventually eating the USSR itself, which was why the Cold War ended.

[ToxicSoil]

I think you guys are losing sight of what is actually important here. It's not that the moon landings never happened, that e.t. life exists, or even that moon doesn't exist. What we should be focusing on is the fact that there's a reason why we question these things. We are lead to believe that we have free will and control over our own lives. We don't! We are slaves to the organism that gives us our so called "lives". Sometimes I wonder why my organism has let me know the truth, but I believe it is because I withhold a greater purpose. Just something to think about guys.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I think you guys are losing sight of what is actually important here. It's not that the moon landings never happened, that e.t. life exists, or even that moon doesn't exist. What we should be focusing on is the fact that there's a reason why we question these things. We are lead to believe that we have free will and control over our own lives. We don't!

That's true in a sense, but I don't understand the relevance.


We are slaves to the organism that gives us our so called "lives".

If we have no will, how can we be slaves to anything?


Sometimes I wonder why my organism has let me know the truth, but I believe it is because I withhold a greater purpose. Just something to think about guys.

I'm sorry, what? Why should we consider you special just because you came to an obvious realisation?

[Stormshield]

Yes, but this time you are missing the main point - it definately was a cookie. There is a really dark reason why both the Americans and the Soviets wanted to get the moon. The Americans had another outlet they previously used for their overproduction, an outlet which got horribly wrong: the Cookie Monster, and stealing the moon was a covert operation to feed him. There is undeniable evidence: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoNAT8ZYbvw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoNAT8ZYbvw)

The Soviet Cookie Monster, of course, ended up eventually eating the USSR itself, which was why the Cold War ended.

This, dear sir, made my day. :thumbup:

[Luís Henrique]

it definately was a cookie.
Of what flavour?

Luís Henrique

[TheoreticalShovenist]

These kind of conspiracy theories are complete and utter nonsense. In case you forgot the Soviet Union was engaged in a space race with the United States; openly TRACKING their activities while trying to conduct espionage operations in the American space program.

Do you think that if there was any hint of a fake moon landing, if (for instance) the Soviets failed to track the American spacecraft responsible for the landing, that they wouldn't IMMEDIATELY go to the UN with all the evidence showing how America fudged the moon landing.

To assume a conspiracy assumes the United States paid off the Soviet Union, and even if that were the case (which would be the most massive payoff in history), documents revealing a payoff would have been released after the fall of the empire (or mentioned by some disgruntled army officer).

[Klaatu]

I happen to know that there are monsters on the moon. I saw them in movies!

:cool:

[RHIZOMES]

We are lead to believe that we have free will and control over our own lives. We don't! We are slaves to the organism that gives us our so called "lives". Sometimes I wonder why my organism has let me know the truth, but I believe it is because I withhold a greater purpose. Just something to think about guys.

whooa... pass the bong dude

[Leo]

it definately was a cookie.

Of what flavour?

Well, obviously half vanilla and half dark chocolate. It was a moon cookie after all.

[Jethro Tull]

It wasn't NASA as an organisation that admitted such, but the testimony of individual astronauts. Even then, such testimony is quite meaningless - after all, a UFO is supposed to be unidentified. So they saw something they couldn't identify? Big deal, it doesn't mean space aliens.

not everyone interested in studying and researching the phenomenon of ufos buys the "alien spacecraft" premise. (with good reason, it's possibly the stupidest explanation for ufos there is, even taking into consideration the lame explanations of materialist "skeptics")

[DesertShark]

These kind of conspiracy theories are complete and utter nonsense. In case you forgot the Soviet Union was engaged in a space race with the United States; openly TRACKING their activities while trying to conduct espionage operations in the American space program.

Do you think that if there was any hint of a fake moon landing, if (for instance) the Soviets failed to track the American spacecraft responsible for the landing, that they wouldn't IMMEDIATELY go to the UN with all the evidence showing how America fudged the moon landing.

To assume a conspiracy assumes the United States paid off the Soviet Union, and even if that were the case (which would be the most massive payoff in history), documents revealing a payoff would have been released after the fall of the empire (or mentioned by some disgruntled army officer).
How come the Soviets didn't go to the moon too? Why has no other country sent a manned mission to the moon?

[Stranger Than Paradise]

But seriously, who gives a shit if it was real or not? What has the moon landing got to do with the class struggle? Nothing

We cannot involve ourselves thinking about these things. All they do is serve as a distraction from the real struggle.

[Orange Juche]

But seriously, who gives a shit if it was real or not? What has the moon landing got to do with the class struggle? Nothing

We cannot involve ourselves thinking about these things. All they do is serve as a distraction from the real struggle.

So the only thing we should ever focus on relating to society is class struggle?

[spiltteeth]

The moon landing killed JFK.