Hey Americans have you been to a healthcare protest yet?

[wasteman]

It must be really hard not to get into a fight ans knock someone out when your blood starts pumping, with all the grass root right wingers organising tea parties and protests outside townhalls.

[Intelligitimate]

Yeah, I've been to one.

[Ohnoatard]

Obama is not proprosing a real reform. It's not a health care reform, it's more of the same corporate status quo insurance Democrats are pushing.

I will never support such 'reform'.

[What Would Durruti Do?]

I've thought about it. Fuck Obamacare.

[StrictlyRuddie]

It must be really hard not to get into a fight ans knock someone out when your blood starts pumping, with all the grass root right wingers organising tea parties and protests outside townhalls.

These right wingers are anything but 'grass roots'. They acquire corporate funding and some are even bussed over by them.

[Wanted Man]

Grass root? It's astroturf, actually.

[Charles Xavier]

Agitate for single payer health care comrades, Obamacare sucks but go where the masses are.

[wasteman]

Agitate for single payer health care comrades, Obamacare sucks but go where the masses are.

how does single payer health care differ?

[BIG BROTHER]

I went to one, this one bastard threatened he would go shoot us, and after this guy was arguing with a Comrade about how we are all in debt and our children are going to inherent it and you know all that conservative talk, I interrupted him and ended his rank by saying "and thats why capitalism sucks"

[The Douche]

These right wingers are anything but 'grass roots'. They acquire corporate funding and some are even bussed over by them.

I have seen the exact opposite. Have you been to one?


I cannot in good conscience support obamacare, I have been covered by government healthcare, it sucks, I currently do not have health insurance, I would rather not have it than have the government give it to me.

It is setting us back to struggle for social programs which make the masses dependent upon the state.

[What Would Durruti Do?]

how does single payer health care differ?

instead of being able to choose between the state and capitalists, it would just be the state. the good news is everyone would be covered, the bad news is that its just nationalization.

but of course with how much outcry there has been over a simple public option, you'd probably see armed uprisings before single payer healthcare ever happened.

[StrictlyRuddie]

I have seen the exact opposite. Have you been to one?


I cannot in good conscience support obamacare, I have been covered by government healthcare, it sucks, I currently do not have health insurance, I would rather not have it than have the government give it to me.

What exactly have you seen? From what I saw here it was a bunch of conservative cappies freaking out about the 'big bad government entering our personal lives and hindering healthy competition' etc. Of course most(if not all?) people on rev left don't support obamacare, its to reformist and we'll still have companies running healthcare.


It is setting us back to struggle for social programs which make the masses dependent upon the state.

Wold you honestly rather have fat cats deciding who does and doesn't deserve healthcare? Do you not see healthcare as a basic human right?

[Ohnoatard]

I went to one, this one bastard threatened he would go shoot us, and after this guy was arguing with a Comrade about how we are all in debt and our children are going to inherent it and you know all that conservative talk, I interrupted him and ended his rank by saying "and thats why capitalism sucks"

LOL. Let me guess, there were Obama-Hitler posters, too. Right?

[KurtFF8]

I went to one, got to speak towards the end. I asked "why not move towards a system that puts people before profits" and got the crowd to cheer. (How ironic, considering the CPUSA is apparently considering changing their name to People over Profit)

[wasteman]

Why are Americans so opposed to a single payer healthcare system? In my opinion health care is a basic human right and should be given to everyone in a state run system, why are right wingers so opposed to such a thing?

Why would conservatives rather have corporate fat cats in multiple organizations deciding who gets health care or not?

[apawllo]

Why are Americans so opposed to a single payer healthcare system? In my opinion health care is a basic human right and should be given to everyone in a state run system, why are right wingers so opposed to such a thing?

Why would conservatives rather have corporate fat cats in multiple organizations deciding who gets health care or not?

There's a protest from 11am-1pm here tomorrow. I'm thinking about stopping by and talking to some people to see what they think about that. Although, I guarantee I'll hear the typical non sequiturs about preservation of individual freedom, siding with the constitution, fiscal responsibility, and small government aka traditional conservatism. Obviously everyone here knows how shortsighted all of that is.

[Revy]

It must be really hard not to get into a fight ans knock someone out when your blood starts pumping, with all the grass root right wingers organising tea parties and protests outside townhalls.

There should be grassroots leftists across the nation providing their own perspective, that Obamacare is an obfuscation and that it will only lead to the status quo.

Taking up the side of the Obamacare supporters would constitute a betrayal of universal health care.

[BIG BROTHER]

LOL. Let me guess, there were Obama-Hitler posters, too. Right?

Nah aparently Obama is just plain commie:rolleyes:

[The Douche]

What exactly have you seen? From what I saw here it was a bunch of conservative cappies freaking out about the 'big bad government entering our personal lives and hindering healthy competition' etc. Of course most(if not all?) people on rev left don't support obamacare, its to reformist and we'll still have companies running healthcare.

You said you saw corporate funding and out of towners bussed in. I saw the exact opposite, all of the conservatives were from the area, many of them who I knew as I went to high school or college with them or their kids. The Obamacare side, however, were professionaly organized, with professional signs, and had actual political organizers who were from hours away from my town.

The conservatives are afraid of government interfering with their right to choose health care providers, which is silly. What the underlying issue in this is, is the fact that our representatives a)don't read bills before they vote on them and b)don't care what their constituents actually want. That's what most of these conservatives are up in arms about, and I happen to agree with them.


Wold you honestly rather have fat cats deciding who does and doesn't deserve healthcare? Do you not see healthcare as a basic human right?

Free healthcare is a right, your healthcare at my expense is not a right. The current system cannot provide free healthcare, so I will not support the supposed "right" of an individual to get health care through use of my tax dollars, because I feel I am allready to highly taxed.

I also, as I said, have recieved government healthcare for some time now, and feel, therefor, that I am pretty qualified to say that government healthcare fucking blows, it is low quality, involves long waits, and is done as cheaply and quickly as possible. I have also been refused my government healthcare (which I am entitled to/was at the time) because it was possibly a "waste of money" because I might have died in the immediate future. Seeing as that excuse was actually given to me by a doctor refusing me healthcare I can see why some conservatives think "death panels" are a possibility.

[KurtFF8]

Why are Americans so opposed to a single payer healthcare system? In my opinion health care is a basic human right and should be given to everyone in a state run system, why are right wingers so opposed to such a thing?

Why would conservatives rather have corporate fat cats in multiple organizations deciding who gets health care or not?

Actually I believe that the majority of Americans support Single-Payer