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Havet
25th August 2009, 23:52
Via Wendy McElroy:

http://www.wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.2647


400 million ($668 million) will be spend on installing and monitoring CCTV cameras in the homes of private citizens. Why? To make sure the kids are doing their homework, going to bed early and eating their vegetables. The scheme has, astonishingly, already been running in 2,000 family homes. The governments childrens secretary Ed Balls is behind the plan, which is aimed at problem, antisocial families. The idea is that, if a child has a more stable home life, he or she will be less likely to stray into crime and drugs.

It gets worse. The government is also maintaining a private army, incredibly not called Thought Police, which will be sent round to carry out home checks, according to the Sunday Express. And in a scheme which firmly cements the nations reputation as a nanny state, the kids and their families will be forced to sign behavior contracts which will set out parents duties to ensure children behave and do their homework.

And remember, this is the left-wing government. The Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling, batting for the conservatives, thinks these plans are too little, and too late, implying that even more obtrusive work needs to be done. Rumors that a new detention center, named Room 101, is being constructed inside the Ministry of Love are unconfirmed.

The justification for the program is that children in anti-social houses are more likely to become criminals or otherwise anti-social themselves. What do children become when every breath they take is monitored by the State?Further information...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -bins.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5888162/Worst-families-in-Britain-will-be-put-in-sin-bins.html)


Under the Government scheme, members of "Shameless" families are given intensive 24-hour supervision to make sure children attend school, go to bed on time and eat proper meals....

Around 2,000 families have gone through Family Intervention Projects, but ministers intend to increase its scope to 20,000 more in the next two years each costing between 5,000 and 20,000.

Nwoye
26th August 2009, 00:21
This is absolute bullshit. You can find the details on the project here (http://www.respect.gov.uk/members/article.aspx?id=8678) and here (http://www.respect.gov.uk/members/article.aspx?id=11874), and it has nothing to do with CCTV's being put in people's homes. I'm not even from britain, and I don't even support this policy, but its use to characterize britain as falling down the slippery slope towards orwellian totalitarianism is infuriating.

Bud Struggle
26th August 2009, 00:24
Welcome to the nanny state. :rolleyes:

Demogorgon
26th August 2009, 00:24
Yeah, I oppose the policy too, but it is a long way from cameras in people's homes. That would never be accepted, even by the most right wing elements of middle england.

Pirate turtle the 11th
26th August 2009, 00:25
This kind of shit seriously needs to stop and the left should put more of its energy on matters like this.

Havet
26th August 2009, 17:09
This is absolute bullshit. You can find the details on the project here (http://www.respect.gov.uk/members/article.aspx?id=8678) and here (http://www.respect.gov.uk/members/article.aspx?id=11874), and it has nothing to do with CCTV's being put in people's homes. I'm not even from britain, and I don't even support this policy, but its use to characterize britain as falling down the slippery slope towards orwellian totalitarianism is infuriating.

Did you not see the new information (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1205419/March-state-spies-One-78-adults-came-state-sanctioned-surveillance-year.html) on 1 on 78 people being under state surveillance now?

1,200 surveillance requests per day...

This has happened because the government gave local councils power to spy, and they don't have shit better to do than to use that power.

"Last year there were 504,073 new cases - an average of 1,381 a day. It is the equivalent of one adult in 78 coming under state-sanctioned surveillance. "

1 in 78 doesn't sound like much, but divide it by 4, and that's 1 in 20 families, or 1 in 20 houses. And if you ignore the kids which aren't going to be surveilled, its 1 in 10.

Even given the 1 in 78 number, at an average soccer match there will be over 200 people being surveyed.

*Red*Alert
26th August 2009, 18:42
This article is complete rubbish unfortunately, some people need to give up on the whole Orwellian, New World Order shite.

I am opposed to the wasteful spending of crime prevention budgets on CCTV in pretty much every town and new statistics show that its only been used in solving 1 in 7 cases and am also opposed to the latest development in the surveillance culture, which is seeing schools spend up to 27,000 of their budgets on installing CCTV in classrooms, greatly eroding privacy and the ability of teachers to teach.

Havet
26th August 2009, 19:26
This article is complete rubbish unfortunately, some people need to give up on the whole Orwellian, New World Order shite.

I am opposed to the wasteful spending of crime prevention budgets on CCTV in pretty much every town and new statistics show that its only been used in solving 1 in 7 cases and am also opposed to the latest development in the surveillance culture, which is seeing schools spend up to 27,000 of their budgets on installing CCTV in classrooms, greatly eroding privacy and the ability of teachers to teach.


Source for why it is complete rubbish?

Source on been used to solve 1 in 7 cases and the "statistics" you mention?

Source for where the hell you got the 27,000 number exactly?