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Bitter Ashes
23rd August 2009, 11:50
http://itn.co.uk/f6bea287a92f5ea52a6b5762400c78c6.html

A secret Ministry of Defence (MoD) report has concluded that the department's systems for acquiring new equipment are so inefficient they should be privatised.

The devastating report by Bernard Gray, a former adviser to Labour defence ministers, has found that the problems were so severe they were "harming our ability ... to conduct difficult current operations", according to The Sunday Times which has obtained a leaked copy.

It concluded that the MoD's equipment programme was £35 billion over budget, five years behind schedule, and could not be afforded in the long-term

The report was originally commissioned by the former Defence Secretary John Hutton and was supposed to have been published before Parliament broke for the summer recess last month.

However, ministers have now said that it will "feed in" to the forthcoming defence green paper, to be published early next year, which will pave the way for a full-scale strategic defence review once the general election is out of the way.

A MoD spokesman said the report would be published in due course.

We've known that the UK goverment's armed forces are primarily used to secure bourgeois intrests for a while, now it seems that there's suggestions of handing over more direct control of this to the bourgeois.

Instead of employers associations merely lobbying the goverment, or passing bribes to the party in power, now we have creeping over the horizon a system that would allow the bourgeois to directly have control over parts of the armed forces. A new kind of coersion has been born in the UK where the bourgeois would now able to lay seige to the armed forces until they comply with thier demands.

No doubt it's only the first step in many to ensure that the boot of capitalism is handed over to the bourgeois.

I dont know about you, but I consider this to be a very bad thing.

It's quite laughable too, because every time that any nationalised service has been privatised, in whole or in part, it's been worse off than when it was under goverment control. The NHS, British Rail and DWP are just a handful of examples of what happens when these parasites are trusted with "public services". Seems like a load of propaganda bull to make us try respect our bourgeois overlords to me.

Pirate turtle the 11th
23rd August 2009, 11:57
I dunno , it could be good in the long run states tend to be more robust then companies.

The Ungovernable Farce
23rd August 2009, 12:28
It's quite laughable too, because every time that any nationalised service has been privatised, in whole or in part, it's been worse off than when it was under goverment control. The NHS, British Rail and DWP are just a handful of examples of what happens when these parasites are trusted with "public services". Seems like a load of propaganda bull to make us try respect our bourgeois overlords to me.
I really hope the Army ends up being run by the same people as British Rail. "We are sorry to announce that the invasion of Iraq has been postponed, due to the wrong kind of sand in the desert."

NecroCommie
23rd August 2009, 16:53
(In a propagandaish voice)
Next up!
Privatisation of heads!
Do your shoulders ache in the morning?
Is your neck continuously strained?
Do you spur out thoughts of corporate control?

Worry not! You have a bourgeois head! Our trained group of revolutionaries will relieve you of this hinderance to common good, and grant you a good long sleep.
Side effects may contain minor lifelesness, freedom for workers and worldwide socialist republic.

Conducted by the wooden spoon inc.
Your kitchen wear, as violent as you want it. :cool:

Psy
24th August 2009, 15:00
I wonder how ARPAnet/DARPAnet would have developed by private companies since DARPA solved many technical problems just by throwing more engineers at the problem using the Pentagon's unlimited resources and limitless funding to pay their wages just to get the command login to work bettwen two networks.

Military research tend to be uneffecient not because of state control but because militaries wan't to be the first imperialists on the planet with a new technology so they tend to sacrifice efficency for speed of research. I really dought private companies are even capable of devloping technologies anywhere as fast as militiaries due to imperialist militarities have far larger budgets then most corperations, how could any corperation beat the 3 billion a year just DARPA gers.

Bitter Ashes
24th August 2009, 15:18
I wonder how ARPAnet/DARPAnet would have developed by private companies since DARPA solved many technical problems just by throwing more engineers at the problem using the Pentagon's unlimited resources and limitless funding to pay their wages just to get the command login to work bettwen two networks.

Military research tend to be uneffecient not because of state control but because militaries wan't to be the first imperialists on the planet with a new technology so they tend to sacrifice efficency for speed of research. I really dought private companies are even capable of devloping technologies anywhere as fast as militiaries due to imperialist militarities have far larger budgets then most corperations, how could any corperation beat the 3 billion a year just DARPA gers.
This leaves a bad taste in my mouth doing this, but...
CERN, which is a European private company, developed the internet, BEFORE ARPAnet/DARPAnet.
Otherwise, yeah, it makes a lot of sense.

piet11111
24th August 2009, 18:34
let them by the time they figured out that the army now uses cardboard "bullet-proof" vests and has paper-mache tanks any war would be quickly over.

also might put a bit of rebellion amongst the ranks after getting crap equipment and crap food for too long.

Bitter Ashes
24th August 2009, 19:02
let them by the time they figured out that the army now uses cardboard "bullet-proof" vests and has paper-mache tanks any war would be quickly over.

also might put a bit of rebellion amongst the ranks after getting crap equipment and crap food for too long.
If only that was true. The sad thing is that any sort of rebellion within the ranks is quickly and brutaly supressed. Beatings, beasting and jail await anyone who complains too much. If you've ever seen the pictures from Abu Garrib, then you'll have an idea what how the RMP treat thier prisoners. The threat of such reprisal is enough to keep the Toms in line. Until the officers who command these practices are removed, there will be no rebellion within the ranks no matter how bad it gets. If this was going on in the home country, then you may get some dessertions though.

Pirate turtle the 11th
24th August 2009, 19:10
I dunno ranma armies with harsher penalties have mutinied before.

Psy
24th August 2009, 20:33
This leaves a bad taste in my mouth doing this, but...
CERN, which is a European private company, developed the internet, BEFORE ARPAnet/DARPAnet.
Otherwise, yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
ARPANet started on October 29, 1969 at 10:30pm (pacific time zone)

Bitter Ashes
25th August 2009, 00:15
ARPANet started on October 29, 1969 at 10:30pm (pacific time zone)
I stand corrected, which has made me happy. Capitalism fails again! Yay! :lol: