Neo-nazism

[Aesop]

I am just wondering how neo-Nazis in these 'non-Slavic' countries such as Germany, Holland etc etc, would response to neo-Nazis from Russia and Poland and other 'Slavic' countries.
Do the Neo-Nazis in Germany and such open their arms wide towards neo-Nazis from Russia or are they hostile towards them?

[IAmLeviathan]

I think theyre done a flattery in being called "Neo", as if theyre somehow progressive.

"Paleo" would be far more accurate.

[Charles Xavier]

What about the Jewish nazis in Israel?

[thejambo1]

i would say that there is probably a lot of info exchanged between nazis form across europe and u.s.a. i think they are on friendly terms but who knows how that would change in event of nazis coming to power in any of these countries.

[RotStern]

I would guess not. The Russian nazis are stupid to call themselves nazis.
The nazis deemed us Slavs as not being 'Aryan'.
So I would guess non-slavic Neo nazis would not exactly be on friendly terms with the Slavic groups.
But it as absolute bullshit Slavs are certainly 'Aryan'.
Nazi 'ideology' is bullshit.

[Montes]

I would guess not. The Russian nazis are stupid to call themselves nazis.
The nazis deemed us Slavs as not being 'Aryan'.
So I would guess non-slavic Neo nazis would not exactly be on friendly terms with the Slavic groups.
But it as absolute bullshit Slavs are certainly 'Aryan'.
Nazi 'ideology' is bullshit.

I found that comment kind of disturbing. What's the advantage of being categorized by the Nazi's as Aryan? The Aryan race is the basis of a fictitious supremacy. Who cares what the Nazis think about your race?

[StalinFanboy]

The definition of White changes often.

[9]

What about the Jewish nazis in Israel?
:rolleyes:

[RotStern]

I found that comment kind of disturbing. What's the advantage of being categorized by the Nazi's as Aryan? The Aryan race is the basis of a fictitious supremacy. Who cares what the Nazis think about your race?

I don't care what a bunch of right wingers call me.
I was just commentating on how uneducated this nazi punks are.
Hitler took it fucked the word up and changed its actual meaning.
Just as he did the Swastika.

[Holden Caulfield]

As far as I know the 'Jewish Nazi' type from Israel aren't really Jewish, they are economic migrants from the former USSR who took advantage of the right of return (using Jewish grandparents or such like) to gain entrance.

I don't think you can even have a Jewish Nazi: Nazi being one who follows the line of the NSDAP, you can have Jewish fascists but not Jewish Nazis.

[Aesop]

I think theyre done a flattery in being called "Neo", as if theyre somehow progressive.

"Paleo" would be far more accurate.

'Neo' does not mean they are progressive it just means its modern form, like for example neo-liberalism is in fact (almost) identical to classical liberalism.

[Искра]

I am just wondering how neo-Nazis in these 'non-Slavic' countries such as Germany, Holland etc etc, would response to neo-Nazis from Russia and Poland and other 'Slavic' countries.
Do the Neo-Nazis in Germany and such open their arms wide towards neo-Nazis from Russia or are they hostile towards them?
Go on stormfront and ask... we dont care... we shoot them all...

[LOLseph Stalin]

What about the Jewish nazis in Israel?

Oh the irony. :rolleyes:

[n4al]

@well, to my knowledge Czech nazis are sponsored/supported/whatever by German nazis. As the matter of fact, in 2007 when Czech nazis wanted to organise march through the jewish quarter of Prague on the Crystal night, good part of the supporters came from the neighbouring countries including Germany, Slovakia and Poland. (Well, to tell you the truth, good part of Antifa supporters came from there as well.)

However, I do not know what is the ideological explanation they have for it.

[The Feral Underclass]

What about the Jewish nazis in Israel?

To be fair they weren't actually Jewish. They were descendents of Jews.

[Zolken]

I am just wondering how neo-Nazis in these 'non-Slavic' countries such as Germany, Holland etc etc, would response to neo-Nazis from Russia and Poland and other 'Slavic' countries.
Do the Neo-Nazis in Germany and such open their arms wide towards neo-Nazis from Russia or are they hostile towards them?

These idiots are nothing new, nor are they Nazi's in that the NSDAP was a phenomenon peculiar to early 20th century Germany and the term Nazi being derived from the name National Socialist.

As for these modern Slavs claiming to be pro-Nazi, this merely reveals the extreme ignorance that results from being separated from an original movement by time and space in that hatred of Slavs was one of the core beliefs of early National Socialism.

[Искра]

I would also like to add that Russian neo-nazis are fanatical and dangerous. I think that their movement is strongest in the world. I watched some kind of documentary called "From Russia With Hate", and I was like - WTF?
Well, neo-nazism is spread in Slavic country, because of ex-"socialist" regimes (USSR, Yugoslavia etc.) People in those countries live in terrible conditions and some young kids, because of those circumstances find their "place" in neo-nazi skinhead thing. Also, that's very popular - to be a nazi skinhead. Everybody are scared of you etc. But main problem with this is not that there are some neo-nazis in Slavic countries, but the fact that nazi skinhead subculture is popular, and that medias are promoting it.
I don't know what neo-nazis from Germany think about slavic "nazis", but I'll tell you a little story. I have 2 neo nazi skinhead neighbors in Osijek. One of them killed Serbian nazi skinhead in Hungary on some B&H gig, back in 1992. He served 12 years of jail, and he's no more skinhead. His brother was a member of Combat 18 and Blood & Honor. He moved to Munchen and join the NDP and but somebody shoot him - so he's dead. Point I was making is that neo nazi skinheads, which are half German and half Croatian origin don't like Serbs. Well, that more of nationalistic issue, but the main point is that they neo-nazis are deviated. I think that there are some neo-nazis in Germany who like Slavic neo-nazis etc. But I think that majority of them don't like Slavs at all. Also I find Slavic neo-nazism quite idiotic.

[Axle]

I imagine that at first glance, different neo-nazi groups from different countries get along, perhaps only because of the fact they're nazis. But since such a large part of nazism is nationalism and racial and ethnic purity, any goodwill that might exist between them is likely very shallow.

[Revy]

I am just wondering how neo-Nazis in these 'non-Slavic' countries such as Germany, Holland etc etc, would response to neo-Nazis from Russia and Poland and other 'Slavic' countries.
Do the Neo-Nazis in Germany and such open their arms wide towards neo-Nazis from Russia or are they hostile towards them?

Russia was where the Protocols of the Elders of Zion were fabricated. It's where the Black Hundreds organized as a movement, they were Tsarists but also rabid anti-Semites.


The administration of Nicholas II published anti-Semitic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semitic) propaganda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda) that encouraged people to riot in various parts of the Pale of Settlement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_of_Settlement), resulting in the pogroms of 1903-1906. Viacheslav Plehve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viacheslav_Plehve), the Minister of the Interior, paid the Kishinev newspaper "Bessarabets (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bessarabets&action=edit&redlink=1)" for anti-Semitic material (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anti-Semitic_material&action=edit&redlink=1), and the press during the Russo-Japanese War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War) accused the Jews of being a fifth column (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column). This accusation encouraged the eruption of numerous pogroms, especially after Russia lost the war. Pogroms also resulted from the government's reaction to the 1905 revolution.

[Kwisatz Haderach]

If you expect neo-Nazis to have any kind of consistent or rational beliefs, you expect far too much. Their views don't make sense and they're not supposed to. Fascist movements are irrational and proud of it.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Im going elaborate on Axle's comment.

Isn't Nazism just a short way to say national socialism? meaning it is dependent on the nation or race. Nazis can exist in Russia and they may support white Russian nationalism whereas a German Nazi would support white German/Aryan nationalism. they may conflict with each other but Nazis can exist any where so long as they have a race that they think is "superior" to others. NSDAP was a German Nazi phenomenon and Russian Nazism is a different phenomenon, promoting racial superiority of their race.

For some illogical reason they probably would support each other in killing each others races in their respective nations or killing other races because they believe they are both superior.

In the end, even if they achieved victory in their own nations they would ultimately come into conflict because of their own feelings of superiority. And either kill each other off or end up as just one bunch of people suffering from genetic deficiencies due to inbreeding, and then die off ^^

Nazism is idiotic to say the least.

[Tjis]

Different nazi groups have different opinions about this of course. There are nazi groups in western Europe that consider slavs Aryans. The nazi party's hate for them was either a mistake or a clever jewish conspiracy according to these idiots (seriously). The NSBM scene is an example of this. Most of the NSBM bands are from eastern Europe, and people in the scene in western Europe consider them to be Aryans and comrades.

However there are still inconsistencies (we're not really dealing with rational people here after all). For example, here in the Netherlands NSBM boneheads will still gladly participate in demonstrations against polish workers.

The irrationality is because nazism isn't rooted in ideology. Ideology is something that is made up afterwards to justify their irrational hate and fear. Who is white, who isn't, whether white is the same as Aryan or not, etc changes from moment to moment, depending on what is convenient. Slavs can be comrades today and enemies tomorrow. This also goes for muslims, jews (though this is very rare among groups that consider themselves neo-nazi) and any other minority group you can think of.