Balkan Leftist Punk Rock Bands

[Punk-Guevara]

Hey,i'm kinda new here,i'm being communist for a while,even thou i'm not old,i learn about communism every day,and expand my mind in a right way,anti nazi way...
I'm from Serbia,a country on Balkan,Ex-Yugoslavia country,we've been communist country,after WW2,Tito was our leader,u can ask anyone,and they all will that the best time for living was Tito's time...
Now,Serbia is full of nationalism,facism,and patriotism,that's why everybody hate's us..:)
Now back to music,there are some good antifa punk rock bands on Balkan,u may heard for Red Union...
There are also Tito's bojs(boys) and KUD Idijoti...Communism isn't dead!:star2:

[Искра]

Tito bojs are joke band and KUD Idijoti's lyrics are idiotic. If you wanted to post "commie" punk you could post Pankrti (eng. Bastards) since they covered Bandiera Rossa and their album name is Rdeči album (eng. The Red Album). They are also musically above any of these bands.
Your analysis of Yugoslavia is hilarious. Tito was not "our" leader, he was a dictator, hedonist "red bourgeoisie" who lived in villas while people in Kosovo, East Serbia, Bosnia etc. were starving. But since this is a punk thread I'll give you few good bands to listen.
Check "Zapadni Balkan" I posted there Fight Back from Požega, really good band... Also good bands from Serbia would be Solunski Front, Necrophilia etc. And a lot of them are singing about repression under "communist" regime.

[The Bear]

"pressure under commies..."

What a typical example of anarcho-libertarian garbage. He defined tito in quite symplifistic way , either i dont support him for his revisionism , but a leftist supporting a band singing about "bad bad , evil dictatorian communism" is a pile of thrash. Pankrti are fine band tho...

[Искра]

Leftist supporting a Marxist band which sings against Yugoslavian "red bourgeois" is a pill of trash to you? Well fine...

[communard resolution]

Tito bojs are joke band

Sounds fun. Are they a parody band or are they serious and you think they're a joke?


If you wanted to post "commie" punk you could post Pankrti Fantastic band. But my favourite ex-Yugo punk band remain Pekinska Patka. Don't know if they were political but I wouldn't think so judging by the humorous vibe of their music.

[Bandito]

Fantastic band. But my favourite ex-Yugo punk band remain Pekinska Patka. Don't know if they were political but I wouldn't think so judging by the humorous vibe of their music.

Yes they are political.
The singer is a monarchist.

[The Bear]

Marxist band

who ? :blink:

[Искра]

The great amount of hardcore bands from 80s were Marxist or Anarchist. I can't right now find lyrics, but i think that Trashagain had really great song against Party people which haven't ever read a manifesto

[Искра]

Yes they are political.
The singer is a monarchist.
Good one :D hahaha:laugh:

[Искра]

Sounds fun. Are they a parody band or are they serious and you think they're a joke?
Hm, I don't take their lyrics serious. I think that lyrics are joke, because they are not good, not very intelligent.

[communard resolution]

Yes they are political.
The singer is a monarchist.

Is he really or are you joking?? Sorry, I'm not from Yugoslavia so some of your cultural references/humour might escape me.

[Искра]

Is he really or are you joking?? Sorry, I'm not from Yugoslavia so some of your cultural references/humour might escape me.
He's not joking.

[communard resolution]

He's not joking.

Monarchist as in 'Chetnik'?

[Искра]

Yup, Chetnik's are monarchists and they hate Croatians, Albanians and the rest. Jerks :)

[communard resolution]

Yup, Chetnik's are monarchists and they hate Croatians, Albanians and the rest. Jerks :)

OK, thanks. That's a bit disappointing to hear because I like the band's music a lot. I suppose he is a Chetnik as a private person and doesn't sing about being a Chetnik, hating Croats etc?

I've got an original Pekinska Patka 7'' single of 1980. On Yugoton. :cool:

[Искра]

OK thanks. That's a bit disappointing to hear because I like the band's music a lot. I suppose he is a Chetnik as a private person and doesn't sing about being a Chetnik, hating Croats etc?

I've got an original Pekinska Patka 7'' single of 1978. On Yugoton. :cool:
They don't sing about it. I didn't know that he was Chetnik until I read in somewhere. I really like Pekinska Patka also :) I don't have any of their records, but I have Paraf's 1st LP, Polska Malca's LP, UBR's 7'', Ljubljana Hardcore LP :) etc. he he he

Don't be disappointed. Music is what's important. I'm personally anarchist and I dislike Leninism, or to say Bolshevism but I listen to a lot of Bolshevik bands, because they have great music.

[The Bear]

you gonna burn it now ? :D

[communard resolution]

you gonna burn it now ? :D

Never. I oppose the burning of degenerate art. :)

[Искра]

Hahaha :) I agree with you :)

[communard resolution]

They don't sing about it. I didn't know that he was Chetnik until I read in somewhere. I really like Pekinska Patka also :) I don't have any of their records, but I have Paraf's 1st LP, Polska Malca's LP, UBR's 7'', Ljubljana Hardcore LP :) etc. he he he

I haven't heard of Polska Malca or the Ljubljana Hardcore album. What I know is Pekinska Patka, Kud Idjoti, Paraf, Termiti, and the bands from the Novi Punk Val comp (I've been trying to get my hands on the original vinyl for ages, but it's always like £100 on ebay - can't afford that). Oh, and outside of the punk genre I like the first Partibrejkers album and some stuff by Laibach. I'm also a big turbofolk fan (ok, that was a lie).


Don't be disappointed. Music is what's importantSure. If I were to disown every band whose political views I disagree with, there wouldn't be much left to listen to.

[Искра]

Oh, comrade... you need some education. Tell me this - do you like hardcore punk? If you do I can give you quite a lot of good bands :)

http://kaaosjavapaus.blogspot.com/2008/11/va-rijeki-novi-val-antologija-3xcd.html
Check this. (btw. press stop on the right bar... because Shitlicker's noise will annihilate your brains out)

[communard resolution]

Oh, comrade... you need some education. Tell me this - do you like hardcore punk?

To be honest, I like my punk rock more 70s styled. I still really like some high quality HC (Dead Kennedys, Bad Brains, Adolescents), but a lot of the more basic hardcore stuff that I was listening to when I was younger (Discharge and such) just doesn't really do it for me anymore...

Plus I listen to a lot of stuff that's got nothing to do with punk. But I've always had a fondness for Balkan and Russian punk.

Edit: that Shitlicker track actually sounds pretty good.

[Искра]

Ok then I can post you some good punk rock from ex Yugoslavia. Most of releases are on low quality tapes, but music is always good :)
Good bad from Croatia was Mrtvi Kanal (eng. Dead Chanel) kind of punk/post-punk/new wave band whit great social lyrics about alienation in "communist" Yugoslavia. Also their lyrics are truly work of art and really political.
I'm still young, but I kind of gave up from punk :) hehe

[Bandito]

I haven't heard of Polska Malca or the Ljubljana Hardcore album. What I know is Pekinska Patka, Kud Idjoti, Paraf, Termiti, and the bands from the Novi Punk Val comp (I've been trying to get my hands on the original vinyl for ages, but it's always like £100 on ebay - can't afford that). Oh, and outside of the punk genre I like the first Partibrejkers album and some stuff by Laibach. I'm also a big turbofolk fan (ok, that was a lie).

Sure. If I were to disown every band whose political views I disagree with, there wouldn't be much left to listen to.

Original vinyl is 100 pounds?
Hell, maybe i should sell mine.:)
But I guess not....


As for Čonta, the singer of Pekinška Patka, he proved to be several things. A liar, a nationalist and a money-grabbing parasite. Several years ago he said that the only way for him to come back to Serbia is when Serbia becomes monarchist, with Karadjordjevic dynasty on throne. Hillarious.
Than he played in a "non-monarchist" Serbia on Exit festival last year, before the Sex Pistols. Money can buy political views.

[Искра]

He, he :) Exit is labeled as a "pro-gay" festival by Obraz... or something like that :D I don't know all Serbian nationalist groups... when I was I Belgrade comrades talk me about your issues with nationalist jerks over there :)

I saw once first Paraf's LP for 100$ and first Motus's LP for 150$.... on EBay... I bought Paraf for less then 10€ and Motus for 10 :D

[Bandito]

I traded "Novi punk val 78-80" compilation (LP) for a bottle of this:
http://www.antjeschiffers.de/korrespondentin/images/laender/macedonia/ajvaroliver.jpg

He loves ajvar. ;)

[Искра]

Ha ha ha :D
Ajvar, ćevapi and onion. What more can revolutionary form Balkan ask for?

[communard resolution]

Ok then I can post you some good punk rock from ex Yugoslavia.

Yeah totally, I'd be interested.


Croatia was Mrtvi Kanal (eng. Dead Chanel)Never heard of them. Last time I went to Croatia I bought a CD of some crazy guy called Satan Panonski, though. I can't say the music is great, but apparently he had a lot of personality to make up for it...


kind of punk/post-punk/new wave band whit great social lyrics about alienation in "communist" Yugoslavia.I was actually very fond of Tito until quite recently. Now I'm much more critical of him, but one thing that still strikes me as strange is how people who lived through those days never have a bad thing to say about Yugoslav socialism (or whatever you choose to call it).

There's a Croatian poster on revleft called Punisa, who is a little bit older than you guys - to him, Tito is still the best. Criticism against YU socialism usually occurs on purely theoretical grounds (held against the scriptures of Marxism or Anarchism, it doesn't look good) without taking into account people's overwhelmingly positive subjective experience. Or it's people who are too young to remember, whether they're leftists or right-wingers.

It would be interesting to hear about the SFRJ from you guys. Do you agree that older people remember it fondly, and why do you think is that? Also, could you tell me more about the 'alienation in Yugoslav communism' that Mrtvi Kanal sing about?

As far as I've been informed, the government was very tolerant of punk rock - punk records were released on state-owned Yugoton, including regime-critical songs such as the Pankrti one on Novi Punk Val. Compared to the outrage that a song such as God Save The Queen by the Sex Pistols caused in the UK, one would think that the SFRJ wasn't too bad.

[communard resolution]

I love Ajvar too! Unfortunately, the UK hasn't got a very big ex-Yugoslav community - so there's no shops where we can buy this stuff.


I traded "Novi punk val 78-80" compilation (LP) for a bottle of this:
http://www.antjeschiffers.de/korrespondentin/images/laender/macedonia/ajvaroliver.jpg

He loves ajvar. ;)

[Искра]

Make yours. Wanna reception?

[Bandito]

You mean recipe? Or are you inviting him to your villa? :D

[Искра]

You mean recipe? Or are you inviting him to your villa? :D
Ha ha ha :D I fucked up :D I'm sorry :D

[Искра]

Yeah totally, I'd be interested.

Never heard of them. Last time I went to Croatia I bought a CD of some crazy guy called Satan Panonski, though. I can't say the music is great, but apparently he had a lot of personality to make up for it...

He was a lunatic and he did a lot of stuff in "civil war" which you could only imagine. Terrible things and only to the civilians.


I was actually very fond of Tito until quite recently. Now I'm much more critical of him, but one thing that still strikes me as strange is how people who lived through those days never have a bad thing to say about Yugoslav socialism (or whatever you choose to call it).
Well I'm anarchist, you know what do I feel about him.


There's a Croatian poster on revleft called Punisa, who is a little bit older than you guys - to him, Tito is still the best. Criticism against YU socialism usually occurs on purely theoretical grounds (held against the scriptures of Marxism or Anarchism, it doesn't look good) without taking into account people's overwhelmingly positive subjective experience. Or it's people who are too young to remember, whether they're leftists or right-wingers.Well, that's his problem. I'm very critical about SFRJ. I agree that people lived better, and there are proofs of that, but still that was repressive one-party regime, with "red bourgeois" ruling the country. Also, you heard for "Goli Otok", etc. You can't have comminist society with secret police, or with any kind of a police, with state etc.
I was born in 1990. I never experienced SFRJ. My parents did, my girlfriend did (she's much, much older than me), the rest of my small family did. They all said that they lived better, but to what do they compare it? To capitalist, war fucked up, conservative, Catholic country? We shouldn't look at Croatia or Yugoslavia in that way. We should look at the rights of working class, and their status now and then. SFRJ wasn't perfect it was just a light version of Soviet Union, and Croatia is a EU's whore. We should annihilate them both.


It would be interesting to hear about the SFRJ from you guys. Do you agree that older people remember it fondly, and why do you think is that? Also, could you tell me more about the 'alienation in Yugoslav communism' that Mrtvi Kanal sing about?Well, Mrtvi Kanal's songs are poetry. At least to me. They have this song called "Samo tijelo koraca u koloni" (eng. Only body marches in the line) which is my favorite. Or "Dijagnoza" (eng. Diagnoses), "Ludnica" (eng. Mental house), "Slika na mramoru" (eng. Painting on marble) etc. etc. Their critic is more about state of mind. There's no harsh political message like hardcore punk have, you know "dead cops, dead cops, dead cops" or "fuck authority" (MDC and Wasted Youth) their message is kind of out of your reach... it's there... but it's not so direct. But that just on the first sight.


As far as I've been informed, the government was very tolerant of punk rock - punk records were released on state-owned Yugoton, including regime-critical songs such as the Pankrti one on Novi Punk Val. Compared to the outrage that a song such as God Save The Queen by the Sex Pistols caused in the UK, one would think that the SFRJ wasn't too bad.Ok, those were big bands and not so direct. Let us remember that Paraf have to change their lyrics in one song. Song was against police brutality, and their song called "Goli Otok" was never released. Yugoton never put a single record of hardcore punk because those guys were to much against the system, against that bureaucracy and shit.