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SoupIsGoodFood
14th August 2009, 05:16
http://z6.invisionfree.com/libere_sodalitas

So its an online forum run like an anarchist commune would be, after 50 posts everyones a moderator. Its all for fun, don't completely shit on it here with technicalities in theory and such. I just thought maybe some of you might be interested.

Q
14th August 2009, 10:53
Reminds me of the old Libertarian Socialist Federation forum (an alliance in the game Cybernations). Many members were admins after a simple vote that almost granted people adminship by default under the banner "what's the harm".

The forum ended up being hacked.

r0ms
14th August 2009, 15:53
Reminds me of the old Libertarian Socialist Federation forum (an alliance in the game Cybernations). Many members were admins after a simple vote that almost granted people adminship by default under the banner "what's the harm".

The forum ended up being hacked.

Not everyone is an admin, but everyone is a mod. Essentially the most harm someone could do is delete a bunch of posts, but to the same right that person could be expelled by the rest of the community.

Cybernations... :cool:

Pogue
14th August 2009, 16:11
I don't think that is anarchist. We don't advocate anyone being able to hold positions of power, we believe in getting a mandate through elections and functioning as a delegate. Similar to how mods and admins are supposed to work here.

r0ms
14th August 2009, 16:21
I don't think that is anarchist. We don't advocate anyone being able to hold positions of power, we believe in getting a mandate through elections and functioning as a delegate. Similar to how mods and admins are supposed to work here.

Sounds like a position of power to me. There is most certainly hierarchy here. We're talking about direct self-government of the community.

Q
15th August 2009, 10:36
Sounds like a position of power to me. There is most certainly hierarchy here. We're talking about direct self-government of the community.
We also have self-government of the community here. As said, we elect our mods and admins here.

Anyway, how are admins selected on this "anarchist" forums? I guess by vote. Oh noes, a position of power!

ev
15th August 2009, 11:46
We also have self-government of the community here. As said, we elect our mods and admins here.

We still have a hierarchy here, and only CC members are allowed to vote..

Q
15th August 2009, 13:29
We still have a hierarchy here, and only CC members are allowed to vote..
Yeah, we only want confirmed and contributing revolutionaries to have a vote, as opposed to say, an invading force of stormfront trolls.

Sarah Palin
15th August 2009, 20:23
Sounds like a position of power to me. There is most certainly hierarchy here. We're talking about direct self-government of the community.
Because it's so important that internet forums be run according to orthodox anarchist philosophy. There is actually a hierarchy on this "anarchist" site. There are still admins with more power than these mods. But I joined. Sounded fun.

farleft
15th August 2009, 20:40
Are the members predominately UK or US based?

Kukulofori
15th August 2009, 22:18
We also have self-government of the community here. As said, we elect our mods and admins here.

Oh come on. Seriously?

Kassad
15th August 2009, 23:07
This topic could stray away from the discussion at hand very quickly, so let's not do that. Keep all discussion relevant to the website, not the means of governing of RevLeft.

The Feral Underclass
15th August 2009, 23:33
I don't think that is anarchist. We don't advocate anyone being able to hold positions of power, we believe in getting a mandate through elections and functioning as a delegate. Similar to how mods and admins are supposed to work here.

Kill joy!

r0ms
15th August 2009, 23:53
Are the members predominately UK or US based?

Members come from very different places. I come from Oklahoma, but there's another member from Spain. I suppose we're predominately US based, but honestly I don't know where several of them come from.


Because it's so important that internet forums be run according to orthodox anarchist philosophy. There is actually a hierarchy on this "anarchist" site. There are still admins with more power than these mods. But I joined. Sounded fun.

No, it's not. It was just an interesting idea that we thought we would pursue. We're not trying to usurp other leftist forums or one-up them or anything of the sort. We just thought it sounded nice. There's no reason to make such a big deal out of this.


We also have self-government of the community here. As said, we elect our mods and admins here.

Anyway, how are admins selected on this "anarchist" forums? I guess by vote. Oh noes, a position of power!

Actually, no, that's not quite how it works. Everyone on the forum immediately becomes a moderator. There are no admins. The administrator account used to set up the forum is not used.

Really, RevLeft, you don't have to make such a big deal out of this. We're not trying to step on anybody's toes here. The idea actually came from an anarchist forum that warned me twice, once for posting "lol" and a second time for thanking the mod and admitting that the first warning was fair enough. So, I proposed an alternative where the only enforcement comes from the community directly. It's very difficult to do that online. No, I don't hold anything against RevLeft using a more traditional setup. And of course I understand the potential chaos on a forum without administrators. It was just a fun idea.

Or, in the words of Soup,


Its all for fun, don't completely shit on it here with technicalities in theory and such. I just thought maybe some of you might be interested.

revolution inaction
16th August 2009, 00:17
Really, RevLeft, you don't have to make such a big deal out of this. We're not trying to step on anybody's toes here. The idea actually came from an anarchist forum that warned me twice, once for posting "lol" and a second time for thanking the mod and admitting that the first warning was fair enough.

was it anarchist black cat? there kind of mental

Sarah Palin
16th August 2009, 03:25
After going through most of the site, it seems that EVERY thread is just a conversation between r0ms and SoupIsGoodFood.

SoupIsGoodFood
16th August 2009, 04:38
Thats true, but we're just trying to get shit started, so reply to conversations.

Comrade Akai
25th August 2009, 02:11
How is Revleft any less anarchic? Almost everybody on this website is an anarchist.

Manifesto
25th August 2009, 02:21
How is Revleft any less anarchic? Almost everybody on this website is an anarchist.
Many people are but a majority goes to Leninists.

Comrade Akai
25th August 2009, 02:22
Many people are but a majority goes to Leninists.
But communism in its fully-realized state is a form of anarchy.

Manifesto
25th August 2009, 21:14
But communism in its fully-realized state is a form of anarchy.
Yes but the main difference is that Marxist-Leninists want a transition stage or Socialism first.

#FF0000
25th August 2009, 21:42
Many people are but a majority goes to Leninists.

That flatly isn't true.

Comrade Akai
25th August 2009, 22:56
Yes but the main difference is that Marxist-Leninists want a transition stage or Socialism first.

While this is true, it ends in anarchy either way, right?

Nwoye
26th August 2009, 00:45
While this is true, it ends in anarchy either way, right?
yes but the communist idea of statelessness is different in many ways from the anarchists idea of statelessness.

Sayf Udeen
26th August 2009, 11:08
There's a lot of decent IF skins to choose from.

Seriously, this one is annoyingly bad...

Manifesto
26th August 2009, 21:03
That flatly isn't true.
Marxist-Leninists whatever. If not this then what is?

revolution inaction
26th August 2009, 22:31
Marxist-Leninists whatever. If not this then what is?

if you look at this (http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?do=grouplist&pp=20&dofilter=1&cat=3&sort=members) the biggest group by far is the anarchists, although all the different leninist groups add up to more there is a lot of overlap between them.

revolution inaction
26th August 2009, 22:33
While this is true, it ends in anarchy either way, right?

no, marx-leninism is incapable of achieving communism, so they end up with capitailsm

Kassad
26th August 2009, 23:12
This is a verbal warning to everyone. Want to talk about why Marxism/Leninism/Anarchism/Maoism/Objectivism/Capitalism doesn't work? Talk about it in the forums designated for it. Keep the discussion about the website.