'Guerrilla Warfare'

[oconner]

Anyone read it? Thoughts on it?
I liked it very much, it was a bit hard to read though.

[Fires of History]

One of my favorite Che reads, just reading it makes me want to strike it up so bad! But I'm ready, but I won't say how.

Everyone who read Che's Guerilla Warfare should also read Mao Zedong's On Guerilla Warfare as a good additional source of thought on the subject. While Mao's book is based in part on Sun Tzu's Art of War, it is still an essential read in my opinion for the future guerilla, the principles are eternal.

But Che's tome was much better. I appreciate his insights about when to revolt. Timing is not as important to Che as they are to Mao, and I agree with Che on that one. I will never forget Che's second pillar of revolution: "It is not necessary to wait until all conditions for making revolution exist; the insurrection can create them."

I think waiting, and waiting, then waiting again, waiting some more, waiting for the 'right' time, have let things stratify as they have.

I think Che would say, THE TIME IS NOW

[BOZG]

I have searched everywhere for that book and cannot find it. No one in my family uses a credit card so I can't even order it over the internet.

[Fires of History]

BornOfZapatasGuns,

Sorry to hear that, it can be hard to find.

If you have free time to kill online, here is a link that has some of it online:

http://www.geocities.com/redencyclopedia/guevara.htm

Check out the Red Encyclopedia Home while your there :)

[Nateddi]

I wonder why CheGuevara hast said anything about this, he is the forum guerilla. He read a real lot of Che's works.

[Kunkelz]

Although i am not the forum guerilla, i have read it.
I really like this one because it foceses on practise, rather than intelectual twaddle.
I don't think it's hard to read and if you didn't know there is a copy of it here in che-lives.

[Kunkelz]

FoH,
Can you tell me where to find Mao's "On guerilla warfare" on the net?

[BOZG]

Thanks for the link FoH. I'd prefer the actual book but the link is good enough for the moment.

And Kunkelz, only the first chapter of the book is available on Che-Lives, not the full version.

[oconner]

I thought it was hard to read because I am a very young person..and not very clever :0)

[Fires of History]

Quote: from Kunkelz on 8:15 pm on April 17, 2002
FoH,
Can you tell me where to find Mao's "On guerilla warfare" on the net?


Here ya' go.

http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/...rrilla-warfare/ (http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/1937/guerrilla-warfare/)

(Edited by Fires of History at 5:27 pm on April 20, 2002)

[suffianr]

It was my high school textbook. I loved it.

[Menshevik]

It's an interesting bit of theory--I dont think it holds much relevence today though, afterall, Che's indispensible methods were defeated in Bolivia. It's still a classic and a good window into the Cuban Revolution.

[oconner]

wow, you have cool textbooks

[suffianr]

Er, not in the literal sense...It was the only book I read in high school, that's all. Everything else paled in comparison...

[oconner]

well our textbook are like 35 years old and have nothing about revoloutions at all except the industrial one.

[Supermodel]

I just read it recently and I loved it. I feel some of Che's tongue-in-cheek attitude comethrough, as well as his Porteno bluntness. I saw a lot of similarities with "steal this book".

[ellipsis]

che's tome is a classic but as they say "a bit problematic." there are links to full texts of che's, mao's and others on my blog The Revolution Script (http://therevoltionscript.blogspot.com). i also started a thread (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=72191) on revleft.

[ellipsis]

che's tome is a classic but as they say "a bit problematic." there are links to full texts of che's, mao's and others on my blog The Revolution Script (http://therevoltionscript.blogspot.com). i also started a thread (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=72191) on revleft.

[UndergroundConnexion]

i also have it , havnet read it yet, first ognna real mao's one which ill buy next time i go to my favourite leftist bookstore :D

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30, 2002 01:12 pm
It's an interesting bit of theory--I dont think it holds much relevence today though, afterall, Che's indispensible methods were defeated in Bolivia. It's still a classic and a good window into the Cuban Revolution.
It didn't fail, he was betrayed by the CP

[Comrade Rage]

I have Che's Guerrilla Warfare as a PDF at home, and a friend of mine, and I are reading Mao's book together. I'm not a Maoist, I read it because it's a historical document with some good points.

[rocker935]

I agree, I read plenty of books in which differ or even contradict my political beliefs. I read books on communism, capitalism, and anarchism even though I am a socialist.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Here it is: http://www.freepeoplesmovement.org/fpm/page.php?149
Here it is in pdf: http://www.freepeoplesmovement.org/guwar.pdf

[dty06]

Originally posted by LeftyHenryML+November 15, 2007 11:40 pm--> (LeftyHenryML @ November 15, 2007 11:40 pm)
[email protected] 30, 2002 01:12 pm
It's an interesting bit of theory--I dont think it holds much relevence today though, afterall, Che's indispensible methods were defeated in Bolivia. It's still a classic and a good window into the Cuban Revolution.
It didn't fail, he was betrayed by the CP [/b]
that and he didn't follow his own rules. He says that you must always have the support of the people in the land you are in, and the people there did not support his small band, because they saw no benefit in it. They were hardly bothered by the government and tolerated them, but Che and his group of revolutionaries were outsiders and not welcome among the people. thus he did not have the support of the people and could never hope to succeed in a revolution based in an area where he had no support.

Though i do think that the Communist Party of Bolivia is much more to blame than the people there were. They promised him weapons and men, and he got neither.

and about the book/essays: I own it (two copies, actually...one is just the essays and another is the essays with commentary at the end of each. The commentary is useful, providing background info and the context in which the essay was written, as well as an analysis of each essay, its overall meaning, and the historical value of each) and i think it's a great read for any socialist/communist that is looking to further understand El Che. It provides great insight into his ideological thinking and his reasoning for everything he did in Cuba. It also proves that he was a tactical genius, capable of leading a band of so few against an army that outnumbers them 5-1, and not only winning the battle, but eliminating every enemy and taking very few casualties yourself.
I've read that many people do not think that this is a "guide" for guerrilla warfare because it is so "outdated". But in my opinion, it is as contemporary as such mainstream literature as "The DaVinci Code". Why do i say this? Look at Iraq. What are they doing, if not guerrilla warfare? They are using their ability to hide among the population as a means of achieving their goals, and while i do not approve of their goals, nor in any way support them, i find it amazing that they can use weapons that are 50 years old, be outnumbered so greatly, and still survive so well.