Union members get death threats from republicans

[Salyut]

Sorry for the crappy title. ;__;

Heres the story. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/08/unions-receive-increasing_n_254704.html)



An official with the AFL-CIO, a federation of labor organizations, passed on what he described as a "pretty direct threat" to those union hands who were showing up to balance out anti-Obama demonstrations being waged at local Democratic forums.
"I will be going to a local town hall this weekend, all you union members BEWARE!" an emailer wrote at 9:40 Saturday morning. "We will be waiting for you. better make sure you have arrangements with your local ER. today is the day when the goon meets the gun. see you there."
This is just the tip of the iceberg. What the fuck is going on in the US?

edit: had to add this one for lolz


You socialist f---s have the nerve to say stop the violence at the town hall meetings when they weren't violent until you p---ies showed up because your n----- leader obama said to?????? When we have ours in Racine, Wi, I want you there. I want one of your little b----- to put his hands on this Marine. I want one of you to look or talk to me wrong. I'll be the last thing your ignorant faux body guards will remember for a very long time. You can f---ing guarantee that.

[GPDP]

The far-right is on the upswing. Even if it's liberals and the labor aristocracy they're mobilizing against, we should still be wary. This upsurge on proto-fascist activity could have repercussions for all of us.

[Salyut]

The far-right is on the upswing. Even if it's liberals and the labor aristocracy they're mobilizing against, we should still be wary. This upsurge on proto-fascist activity could have repercussions for all of us.

I know. I'm getting baaaaad vibes man. :(

Related article.

[Salyut]

Hey! You know what would make this situation better?

Paultards bringing guns! (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/chris-matthews-to-town-ha_n_256952.html)

[RedBlackFreedom]

I'm always shocked how many people believe this right-wing propaganda.
I just hope the US isn't on the way to fascism...

[Salyut]

I'm always shocked how many people believe this right-wing propaganda.
I just hope the US isn't on the way to fascism...

Well err... (http://www.alternet.org/politics/141819/is_the_u.s._on_the_brink_of_fascism/?page=entire)

I'm going to take a wild guess and say the states are fuuuuuuuucked.

[cyu]

Hey! You know what would make this situation better?

Paultards bringing guns! (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/chris-matthews-to-town-ha_n_256952.html)
You know what would really make the situation better? Union members bringing guns! ...and I'm not being sarcastic.

[Salyut]

You know what would really make the situation better? Union members bringing guns! ...and I'm not being sarcastic.

I agree. Union men and women shouldn't have to be threatened by what amounts to a gang of brownshirts. If they want to use the 2nd ammendment to threaten people, the unionists are more then capable of responding in kind.

[Jimmie Higgins]

What the fuck is going on in the US?
An organized right and demobilized liberals and a small left.

Radicals should size this and organize a push back. For years liberals have been saying that if you want to end the war or get health care you need to have a Democratic President and Democratic control of congress. When the Dems were the minority, mainstream liberal talking heads said that "we don't have enough people" to stop war funding or to filibusterer the Patriot Act.

So radicals should go out and try and talk to liberals about organizing a real grassroots push back against the right-wing. We can tell them - see the conservatives have even less power than the Democrats did under Bush but because they are organized and go out an protest they are able to change public opinion in their favor and disrupt the politicians.

We should say: there are more people against the war than against the heathcare plan, there are more people in favor of socialized heathcare than there are against Obama's plan... we should be out there disrupting the Democratic and Republican politicians who openly took single-payer plans "off the table".

[NecroCommie]

I will bet my testicles on the fact that none of those morons ever had the guts to actually go through with their threaths.

[Sarah Palin]

I've been scared a couple times by pseudo and full on fascists in my town, but in the end, it gets you excited. We have to get out there and disrupt the town hall meetings. Get out there, and scream your lungs out at the congressperson about how they're cheating Americans by saying no to single-payer. I wish there was a bigger network of far-leftists in my town to do this with, but if you're in a city, go to a university and get people to come with you. Really be loud and get the congressperson's attention.

[Communist]

>>Radicals should size this and organize a push back. For years liberals have been saying that if you want to end the war or get health care you need to have a Democratic President and Democratic control of congress. When the Dems were the minority, mainstream liberal talking heads said that "we don't have enough people" to stop war funding or to filibusterer the Patriot Act.
So radicals should go out and try and talk to liberals about organizing a real grassroots push back against the right-wing. We can tell them - see the conservatives have even less power than the Democrats did under Bush but because they are organized and go out an protest they are able to change public opinion in their favor and disrupt the politicians.<<

Where are the liberals? This is a point many seem to be missing. Are they *really* pressuring Obama and Congress to get out of Afghanistan? To put serious socialized health care on the table? To end harassment of citizens and non-citizens?
Is all of this backpedaling and obfuscation because of the organized right-wing? Because of a bunch of religious zealots and neo-fascists?
Do you really believe that?
Liberals aren't criticizing Obama, they're making excuses for him. Liberals aren't going to cooperate with radicals, either. When the GOP is in control, they'll use the radicals, to an extent, but dump them as soon as their crowd gets back in.

They are CAPITALISTS. It's about money and power.

[NecroCommie]

I've been scared a couple times by pseudo and full on fascists in my town, but in the end, it gets you excited. We have to get out there and disrupt the town hall meetings. Get out there, and scream your lungs out at the congressperson about how they're cheating Americans by saying no to single-payer. I wish there was a bigger network of far-leftists in my town to do this with, but if you're in a city, go to a university and get people to come with you. Really be loud and get the congressperson's attention.
I agree that volume is important, but at least the quotes in the original post were the work of a madman. Only threaten with violence if you are ready to back it all up. Otherwise you are just a jerk.

[Jimmie Higgins]

>>Radicals should size this and organize a push back. For years liberals have been saying that if you want to end the war or get health care you need to have a Democratic President and Democratic control of congress. When the Dems were the minority, mainstream liberal talking heads said that "we don't have enough people" to stop war funding or to filibusterer the Patriot Act.
So radicals should go out and try and talk to liberals about organizing a real grassroots push back against the right-wing. We can tell them - see the conservatives have even less power than the Democrats did under Bush but because they are organized and go out an protest they are able to change public opinion in their favor and disrupt the politicians.<<

Where are the liberals? This is a point many seem to be missing. Are they *really* pressuring Obama and Congress to get out of Afghanistan? To put serious socialized health care on the table? To end harassment of citizens and non-citizens?
Is all of this backpedaling and obfuscation because of the organized right-wing? Because of a bunch of religious zealots and neo-fascists?
Do you really believe that?
Liberals aren't criticizing Obama, they're making excuses for him. Liberals aren't going to cooperate with radicals, either. When the GOP is in control, they'll use the radicals, to an extent, but dump them as soon as their crowd gets back in.

They are CAPITALISTS. It's about money and power.
Of course Obama and Kusinich and whoever are liberals and therefore are supporters of the capitalist system (with some friendly amendments to keep children out of coal-mines whenever possible). I wasn't very clear but I think there's a difference between the liberal establishment and every-day workers who identify with liberalism. The Mainstream liberals have no illusions about why they are supporting troop increases in Afghanistan and not supporting universal heath care, but workers who hoped Obama would do these things - these "liberals" - can be won by radical arguments.

In this case, we've had 8 years of heavy pressure by the establishment liberals that only an electoral strategy of getting Democrats into office will be effective in making change. Well they've gotten what they told us was the only option, but there has been no change and a few hundred crazy right-wingers have done more to stop health care than electing tons of democrats has done for stopping the war funding or getting us closer to universal healthcare. This is a "teachable" moment that can help radicalize workers who are hoping for liberal reforms or look to the Democrats as their defenders.

So I think since the mainstream liberal organizations have done such a shitty job, radicals can take some initiative right now, get a lot of confused liberal-supporters to counter-protest the nutjobs, and make a radical argument that the liberal establishment will never get us what we want and if we want to stop the war we have to be as organized and disruptive as the right-wing has been on Healthcare reform; if we want universal healthcare, then half-stepping it will never get us there as this faux-plan by the Democrats has shown.

If the Republicans are going to call any attempt aat helping people "socaliast", we can tell liberal-workers, they have nothing to fear and they may as well become radicals and fight for what they want rather than supporting Democratic half-steps and still loosing and being called a socialist.