Please help me

[Whatamiasocialist?]

I am hopelessly lost. I don't know what right or left socialism is. Im sorry if im a rightist but these are basically my ideals.

[New Tet]

Have you at least asked the basic question, "What Is Socialism?" (http://www.slp.org/what_is.htm)

[New Tet]

Also, Welcome!

[Whatamiasocialist?]

i believe in
Worker's cooperatives or self-management
i do believe in profit but only if it is redistributed into society ( but only from the upper class)
I don't really agree that doctor's and janitor's should be paid the same wage, but i believe the janitor should get free education and help to improve his life.
I believe in multi-party democracy
I belive in revolution
I belive in abolishing private (but not personal) property
I belive in direct and participatory democracy
Im sorry if my ideas are too capitalist

[Whatamiasocialist?]

i know that its basically a self-managed society run by workers without private property

[leninwasarightwingnutcase]

Yes, you are a socialist. None of the ideas you express here are rightwing or capitalist.

Google 'an anarchist FAQ', its free online and explains the ideas of and diferences within the radical left very well.

Welcome.

[scarletghoul]

Yeah you're a socialist/communist. :lol:

[mosfeld]

I don't really agree that doctor's and janitor's should be paid the same wage, but i believe the janitor should get free education and help to improve his life. Why?

I believe in multi-party democracy Why?

[Durruti's Ghost]

Yes, you're definitely a socialist of some stripe. Welcome.


i do believe in profit but only if it is redistributed into society ( but only from the upper class)Have you considered that the abolition of private (not personal) property would eliminate classes (ditto for profit, depending on what you mean by profit)?


I believe in multi-party democracyHave you considered that in a direct, participatory democracy, each person essentially comprises their own party?

[revolution inaction]

I don't really agree that doctor's and janitor's should be paid the same wage, but i believe the janitor should get free education and help to improve his life.

why do you think they should be paid at all?



Worker's cooperatives or self-management
i do believe in profit but only if it is redistributed into society ( but only from the upper class)
I believe in multi-party democracy
I belive in revolution

What is it you mean by this?


you don't sound like a communist, but you sound like some kind of socialist.

[RotStern]

Your a socialist!
Congratulations!!!! :)

[Led Zeppelin]

Why is everyone attacking multi-party democracy all of a sudden? You're not a socialist if you don't believe in it, not the other way around.


The Marxist doctrine of the class nature of parties is transformed into a ludicrous bureaucratic caricature: political dynamics is entirely excluded from the historical process – in the interests of administrative order. In point of fact not a single instance can be found throughout the entire extent of political history of only one party corresponding to one class! Classes are not homogeneous; they are torn by internal antagonisms, and they arrive even at the solution of common tasks only through an internal struggle of tendencies, groupings, and parties. Within certain limits it may be allowed that “the party is a part of a class.” But inasmuch as a class has many “parts” – some facing forward, others backward – one and the same class can put forth several parties. For the same reason, a single party can lean upon the parts of several classes.
Link (http://marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1936/04/ussrconst.htm)

[Durruti's Ghost]

Why is everyone attacking multi-party democracy all of a sudden? You're not a socialist if you don't believe in it, not the other way around.


Link (http://marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1936/04/ussrconst.htm)

Because it seems to imply representative democracy as opposed to direct democracy. I suppose that's not necessarily the case, though.

[StrictlyRuddie]

Why is everyone attacking multi-party democracy all of a sudden? You're not a socialist if you don't believe in it, not the other way around.


Link (http://marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1936/04/ussrconst.htm)

My current 'beef' with a multi-party system would be the chance for reactionary parties winning and setting up homophobic laws or reverting back to a capitalist mode of production, etc.

And like Richard Williams said..

"Have you considered that in a direct, participatory democracy, each person essentially comprises their own party?"

[Led Zeppelin]

My current 'beef' with a multi-party system would be the chance for reactionary parties winning and setting up homophobic laws or reverting back to a capitalist mode of production, etc.

If that is what you are concerned about then you don't know what socialism or communism is about, or rather, how they are brought about.

To put your concerns in context, it is similar to a capitalist voicing concerns over a feudalist winning an election and revering back to the feudal mode of production. Of course democracy as a right does not exist if it is not granted by and to someone by society. Socialist society chooses who it grants and who it denies this right to, with the homophobes, racists, sexists and lingering capitalists being among the group that it probably does not grant it to.

But the proletarian class is not homogeneous, nor is a post-revolution society. So there remains for some time a "fertile soil" for contending parties within the political context of socialism and communism.


And like Richard Williams said..

"Have you considered that in a direct, participatory democracy, each person essentially comprises their own party?"

That was a one-liner without any content. That is why I didn't reply to it.

A single person is a party under a direct participatory democracy, but when more than one person agree on certain political matters and form an organization, that is what? Yes, a party, or political organization.

Unless you want to ban people from forming such organizations. In that case, once again, you are not a socialist.

[Communist Theory]

Restrict!