20 Years After The Fall Of The Berlin Wall ...

[Rakhmetov]

... and wouldn't it be funny if this year 2009 witnesses the rise of new communist states in Europe. It could literally happen overnight and without any or little bloodshed. It is possible.

[robbo203]

... and wouldn't it be funny if this year 2009 witnesses the rise of new communist states in Europe. It could literally happen overnight and without any or little bloodshed. It is possible.

Thats the last thing we want - a new crop of state capitalist regimes pretending to be "communist" and providing yet another diversion from the struggle to achieve a genuine stateless communist world. No thanks!

[Rakhmetov]

Thats the last thing we want - a new crop of state capitalist regimes pretending to be "communist" and providing yet another diversion from the struggle to achieve a genuine stateless communist world. No thanks!


State capitalist regimes!

Well the capitalist states such as the USA and the UK were against them weren't they? Give me a break.
These nations helped liberation movements all over the world and here you are with the benefit of hindsight Monday morning quarterbacking.

[What Would Durruti Do?]

State capitalist regimes!

Well the capitalist states such as the USA and the UK were against them weren't they? Give me a break.
These nations helped liberation movements all over the world and here you are with the benefit of hindsight Monday morning quarterbacking.

Liberation movements that they could control for their own benefit... I guess that means you supported the opposition of the Anarchists and Marxist POUM in Spain huh?

And of course the USA and the UK opposed the "communist" east. They were rival empires. The only reason anyone believes they were actually communist in the first place is because of American Cold War propaganda which used the situation to kill two birds with one stone (paint communism/socialism as evil because the rival totalitarian empire of the day called themselves such AND suppress the working class)

[Rakhmetov]

Liberation movements that they could control for their own benefit... I guess that means you supported the opposition of the Anarchists and Marxist POUM in Spain huh?

And of course the USA and the UK opposed the "communist" east. They were rival empires. The only reason anyone believes they were actually communist in the first place is because of American Cold War propaganda who used the situation to kill two birds with one stone (paint communism/socialism as evil because the rival totalitarian empire of the day called themselves such AND suppress the working class)


Not to be taken seriously, folks----these comments are for entertainment only!

[Asoka89]

It could literally happen overnight and without any or little bloodshed. It is possible.

I hate psuedo-leftists. No conception of what a revolution is or what it is about if you think it can happen "overnight" or that the proletariat could seize power in the near future.

[communard resolution]

... and wouldn't it be funny if this year 2009 witnesses the rise of new communist states in Europe. It could literally happen overnight and without any or little bloodshed. It is possible.

Oh wow, that would be, like, awesome - new communist states rising out of the blue. How will it will happen, Che?

[robbo203]

State capitalist regimes!

Well the capitalist states such as the USA and the UK were against them weren't they? Give me a break.
These nations helped liberation movements all over the world and here you are with the benefit of hindsight Monday morning quarterbacking.


Ehem.. dont get me started again on these so called "liberation movements", not a few of which, once ensconsed in power tuned out to be disgusting little tinpot dictatorships that ruthlessly crushed their own people. And while we are on that subject, are you trying to suggest here that, say, the ex Soviet Union was not also imperialist power? Perhaps you would care to account for the presence of Soviet tanks rolling into the streets of Budapest in 1956 or the Soviet presence in Afganistan and numerous other places. How is this different from the imperialism of the USA and the UK?

I say sod the lot of them. A plague on all their houses! The enemy of an enemy does not make it a friend and the myopia and irrelevance of much of the so called "revolutionary" left is amply demonstrated by its crass inability to recognise this simple fact. So its sides with the most horrendous and despicable state capitalist regimes for no better reason than that they are standing up to American and British imperialism. How pathetic

[Q]

... and wouldn't it be funny if this year 2009 witnesses the rise of new communist states in Europe. It could literally happen overnight and without any or little bloodshed. It is possible.
Overnight? No bloodshed? How exactly?

[fatpanda]

Do you actually really support Mengistu and his Derg Government?
If so why?