Fashion advice?

[Il Medico]

I know there are some trendy leftist here so please help. I am going shopping for a new wardrobe this week. I want something cheap but good looking at the same time. I usually shop at second hand stores, flea Markets and superstores. My old wardrobe was so old and worn that I finally had to trow it out. It was rather drab, as you would expect from a price conscious shopper. :blushing: Any suggestions on what I should buy? Also want something that will go good with a short hair cut, as I am cutting off my long hair.

[which doctor]

You buy your clothes at supermarkets?

Anyways, http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?groupid=64

[Sam_b]

Its all about charity shops. I buy most of my stuff there, at vintage shops or online.

Right now i'm wearing this with some 70s bootcut jeans.

http://www.asthmatickitty.com/images/releases/AKRT_LP_ORANGE_350.jpg

[NecroCommie]

http://www.aderlass.com/frameset.php?lang=en

My favourite.
See? It might be a bad idea to ask this from me.

[Pogue]

make your own clothes anarcho-punk styyylle

[Il Medico]

http://www.aderlass.com/frameset.php?lang=en

My favourite.
See? It might be a bad idea to ask this from me.
Ugh. Where's Bilan when I need him?


make your own clothes anarcho-punk styyylle
I hope this is a joke based on my comment in he Punk thread. Would you wear that? ugh.

Oh.
And thanks Sam B.

[ev]

Something simple?

http://www.baddivers.com/sitebuilder/images/plain_black_t-shirt-277x266.jpg AND http://www.frankyfashion.com/thumb_img/2586_1172515674.jpg

Black top and camouflage pants - Never fails.

Depends really, I'm assuming that they're just normal walk about clothes.
For a second pair, get jeans and a light colored shirt.

It does depend too on yourself, your character, etc. - Don't they have catalouges for this shit?

OH and get a mankini, the women will be all over you ;)

http://www.topnews.in/light/files/mankini.jpg

I wear long-sleeve shirts under short-sleeve shirts under long-sleeve shirts :laugh:

[Sam_b]

Go for retro - you won't regret it.

I want this: http://www.jumpthegun.co.uk/product/Aertex_Goldfinger_Navy

[the last donut of the night]

Just get jeans and t-shirts. Works for me.

[Il Medico]

Go for retro - you won't regret it.

I want this: http://www.jumpthegun.co.uk/product/Aertex_Goldfinger_Navy
Sam I think I am beginning to love you. First Olives and now this? How can the joyless have such great taste????
I want this:
http://www.jumpthegun.co.uk/product/Two_Tone_Tonic_suit_by_Jump_the_Gun
Don't got that much money to blow though.

[Killfacer]

Go for retro - you won't regret it.

I want this: http://www.jumpthegun.co.uk/product/Aertex_Goldfinger_Navy

That's fucking vile.

[Sam_b]

Thats a classy suit. I wish my one was like that!

I was trying to find a photo online for my tweed trenchcoat but unfortunately it can't be found.

[Il Medico]

Thats a classy suit. I wish my one was like that!

I was trying to find a photo online for my tweed trenchcoat but unfortunately it can't be found.
Is it like this?
http://www.thriftybeatnik.co.uk/img/p/80-295-thickbox.jpg

[Sam_b]

Pretty much, but single breast. I've got a black one thats a double though.

[Dr Mindbender]

ugh, that material is horrible and impractical, especially in rainy climates like scotland.

Waterproofs every time.

[NecroCommie]

You'd never believe but military garments can be cool too. Check out these treasures I found from the military store of my friends.

http://www.varusteleka.eu/prebeo/pictures/2938a.jpg

http://www.varusteleka.eu/prebeo/pictures/2534.jpg

http://www.varusteleka.eu/prebeo/pictures/3556.jpg

http://www.varusteleka.eu/prebeo/pictures/1102.jpg

[Le Libérer]

I suggest asking Kevis when he returns from Babylon, hes in the states atm. Hes picked up some rather fashionable pieces for little money while on holiday.

[Cooler Reds Will Prevail]

One word: fedoras. Personally, I'm a fan of the wicker fedora; try to find one with a black band, as this allows you to wear it with brown, white, or khaki shirts as well as black. Mine, for example, is a dark wicker color with a black band that has thin red and blue stripes in it, which allows me to wear it with virtually any color but green, yellow, pink or purple. I'm very fixated on hats because they draw attention away from the rest of your clothes, which allows you to get away with wearing the same shirts and jeans more often, thereby saving you money! Scan local thrift shops, though they can be sort of hit or miss... I threw down like $35 for mine but I wear it a LOT. Example (sans black band):

http://www.apbclothing.com/images/W/rpmwicker.jpg

Now, along with this, I'd recommend a fitted button-up of neutral colors. I prefer black with colored VERTICAL stripes, as this allows for the maximum use and versatility with your existing wardrobe of hats, jeans, and shoes, but white shirts will work also. Vertical stripes are also visually slimming and will make you appear taller. Also, make sure the collar sits up high and does not rest flat on the shoulders. There is a brand they carry at Target called Red Level Nine that has really nice fitted shirts for pretty cheap (I've gotten them on sale for $15 before), and they don't wrinkle either! Example:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Jsi7HGoOL._AA260_.jpg

You can add a skinny tie to this repertoire (something that doesn't clash with the colors of the shirt but with a different design... just don't go for a tie with horizontal stripes if you have a shirt with vertical ones, try to find ties that have weird shapes and diagonal stripes if possible) and you can also add a tuxedo vest if you can make it work. Leave the shirt untucked and the vest unbuttoned, and don't add the vest unless you're using the tie. Also, leave the top 1-2 buttons of your shirt undone and the tie hanging loose. Example of the shirt+tie+vest:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__Ht1U9g4Jzg/R_OlEKKsB_I/AAAAAAAAABo/GXYStuDunvo/s320/Ya%2520Bint%2520El%2520Eih.jpg

If you plan on wearing black shoes, you're going to want to go with a darker jean, and I generally recommend going for the darkest shade of blue possible. Black jeans will be too dark, and light jeans will clash too much. Make sure it's a good fit around the waist and hips; whether you're straight or gay, someone of your preferred sex is checking out your ass, so make it work for you! :lol: I recommend boot-cut jeans, as these will look the best. Even designer places like Express have sales sometimes where their jeans go for about $20-$25, and Express jeans are a great fit and super comfortable.

Anyway, take my advice with a grain of salt, since I don't dress like most of the communists on this forum probably do. I enjoy dressing up and looking flashy when I go out, but I also like to do it on a budget. I never spend more than $30 on a pair of jeans (and I only have 3 pairs that I wear), and I never spend more than $25 on a button-up. You can get nice black shoes for cheap if you thrift-store it, just shine them yourself. The hat is the only area I'd splurge at all. Hope this helps.

[Manifesto]

Just curious since this is the right thread for it. Where can one of those cool Russian coats be bought?

[Sam_b]

in Russia?

[Manifesto]

I could go to Russia to buy a coat or a website.

[Bilan]

What sort of style are you going for?
Also, stay away from t-shirts. They are the devil.

[Angry Young Man]

Primark.I hate clothes shopping. Makes me feel so inadequate.

Also, get yourself a duffel coat - they're sturdy, warm and look sublime on tall frames.

[Bilan]

Duffel coats are the best. I have a vintage one, made in the UK. I got it for 50 bucks.

[Angry Young Man]

You jammy shit! What's the exchange rate between AU$ ang GB£? Mine was £60, but I bought it knowing that it'd be a sound investment and not anticipating crows shitting on it.

[SoupIsGoodFood]

T shirt, jeans, and a fitted cap. Seems to work ok for me. Maybe get some fresh shades if you feel like stuntin.

[Il Medico]

Duffel coats are the best. I have a vintage one, made in the UK. I got it for 50 bucks. What sort of style are you going for?
Also, stay away from t-shirts. They are the devil. I have been thinking of buying a duffel coat, however, I don't think I'd ever get to wear it with the 365 days of God awful heat we have here. And all T-Shirts? I have a few red ones that go great with my black blazer, just bought a scrafy-thing to go with it. Looks good. Anyways, I kinda just looking for good item combos (I usually go thrifting for my clothes) and color combos as I am not the most fashion sensitive. A friend of mine said I should go for brighter colors (my wardrobe consist mainly of Black, grey, dark and navy blue, and dark green.) Should I? I really don't want to end up looking like a tourist or Bruno.

[Angry Young Man]

Move to England where you get to wear it in July.

Not a word of this to Holden - he'll think I've gone southern

[Il Medico]

Move to England where you get to wear it in July.

Not a word of this to Holden - he'll think I've gone southern
Haha! I am actually planning on moving to London when I get out of College. :D America depresses me.

[Angry Young Man]

Wow if you find America depressing, are you in for an eye opener. I'd recommend finding somewhere even more irrationally chirpy. We are famously dreary. It's what you get when your climate is multifarious depths of grey.

[khad]

You'd never believe but military garments can be cool too. Check out these treasures I found from the military store of my friends.

http://www.varusteleka.eu/prebeo/pictures/2534.jpg
Ha, I got one of those East German coats. I also have a soviet winter coat made in the 80s, and a few hats and pants. They are extremely comfortable.

CJ, one thing you may want to look into that's pretty cheap these days is clothing from the former DDR. The rain pattern looks pretty good, imo.


Just curious since this is the right thread for it. Where can one of those cool Russian coats be bought?
I found mine sitting in a box when I moved into this apartment.

[Il Medico]

Wow if you find America depressing, are you in for an eye opener. I'd recommend finding somewhere even more irrationally chirpy. We are famously dreary. It's what you get when your climate is multifarious depths of grey.
Let me rephrase... I live in Florida, it is hot, humid, full of nasty bugs, and I am surrounded my bigots. That depresses me. I'll take grey any day.

[Angry Young Man]

Hey bro there's bigots here too. Matter of fact I was considering moving to Barcelona as soon as I can.

[khad]

Let me rephrase... I live in Florida, it is hot, humid, full of nasty bugs, and I am surrounded my bigots. That depresses me. I'll take grey any day.
You need to get out of the American South, for one. That place will suffocate you.


Hey bro there's bigots here too. Matter of fact I was considering moving to Barcelona as soon as I can.
Funny, the Spaniards are known as the biggest bigots in European sports. Well, Britain has something of a rep too--they share a club.

[Angry Young Man]

Paris is too expensive, Berlin is too much like Coventry and I don't want to go to Eastern Europe cos all manner of wrong stuff could happen in the next few years.

[Il Medico]

Paris is too expensive, Berlin is too much like Coventry and I don't want to go to Eastern Europe cos all manner of wrong stuff could happen in the next few years.
I kinda went though this as well. I settled on London because:
1. I won't have to learn the language and thus not be completely oblivious when people talk to me for the first few months.
2. England is not hot. Spain and Italy are.
3. I can go to Main land Europe without flying (I am deathly afraid of flying)
4 Paris is too expensive.
5. I have tried an utterly failed to learn German, that is the one language I believe I can never master.

Anyways back on topic:
I hear linen is good for hot climates, is this true?

[Bilan]

I have been thinking of buying a duffel coat, however, I don't think I'd ever get to wear it with the 365 days of God awful heat we have here. And all T-Shirts? I have a few red ones that go great with my black blazer, just bought a scrafy-thing to go with it. Looks good. Anyways, I kinda just looking for good item combos (I usually go thrifting for my clothes) and color combos as I am not the most fashion sensitive. A friend of mine said I should go for brighter colors (my wardrobe consist mainly of Black, grey, dark and navy blue, and dark green.) Should I? I really don't want to end up looking like a tourist or Bruno.

Well, bright colours can be worn well but they usually aren't. Most people tend to do it in such an atrocious way that you're forced to look away, lest you succumb to the desire of looking at a human paddlepop.
I'm quite fond of dark colours. Black, grey, dark and navy blue are all usually colours that are easy to work with, and can be worn so suavely.

e.g.
http://www.thesartorialist.com/photos/7159shortsknitWeb.jpg


http://www.thesartorialist.com/photos/61709BluWhtHat288Web.jpg

Both of those illustrate that white is always good to have when wearing dark colours though. A white collared shirt goes with near everything.
And also that the Sartorialist (http://thesartorialist.blogspot.com/) is a good place to look for inspiration. Though, a lot of the stuff in there is no doubt designer, and costs far too much, you can find equivelants in op shops and the like with relative ease.

I'd say stick with dark colours, as long as you remember to balance them out with at least something light (shirt, scarf, etc).

As for t-shirts, I only say stay away because by and large, they ruin outfits, and tend to remind me of those sort of trendy-new-age CEOs and marketers who try to be "hip" and appeal to youths by wearing business suits and t-shirts. They look stupid, and they're the most horrendous of creatures.

[Bilan]

Wow if you find America depressing, are you in for an eye opener. I'd recommend finding somewhere even more irrationally chirpy. We are famously dreary. It's what you get when your climate is multifarious depths of grey.

I think that's what interests me most about the UK. It's so delightfully dreary. Australia has a tendency to be painfully chirpy, and it's almost frustrating. Particularly in the summer/day time. If it's not constant, and unbearable heat, it's constant and unbearable happiness, which is partially smothered by drunken violence (though, I hear the UK is worse) and racism (" ").

At night though, and especially on trains, it's a place riddled with terror. The very thought of someone talking loudly on the train near you is enough to send shivers down your spine.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

If your going to wear a black hoodie you must always wear a white shirt underneath anything else looks shit. Also Green shirts ftw

[Bilan]

Don't wear black hoodies, or listen to Comrade Joe. Both will result in some sort of skirmish with someone.

[Killfacer]

Bilan those people look like smug fuckers. Plus the top one isn't even well dressed. He looks like hes wearing some hippy shawl thing over his shoulders.

[Bilan]

How smug they look isn't what I was pointing out. The combination of colour was. Plus, even if they look smug (I don't think they do, to be quite honest), they're well dressed as fuck.

[Killfacer]

How smug they look isn't what I was pointing out. The combination of colour was. Plus, even if they look smug (I don't think they do, to be quite honest), they're well dressed as fuck.

The bottom one was pretty stylish but the top bloke just looked pretty crap.

[Bilan]

Rubbish.
Though at least we can agree on the bottom one.

[Angry Young Man]

How smug they look isn't what I was pointing out. The combination of colour was. Plus, even if they look smug (I don't think they do, to be quite honest), they're well dressed as fuck.

The top one looked like he was in his pyjamas!

[Jazzratt]

The fashionistas can just fuck off. I've got me a pair of jeans and a t-shirt (sometimes with a shirt over it), usually with a jacket. If my jeans are too loose I put on some braces and if they're too tight I generally stop wearin them after a while because they're fucking uncomfortable.

People in the kind of pictures Bilan posts in these threads tend to look like the kind of ****s you'd find ording pretentiously named coffees at starbucks or going into some poncey wine bar in central london. Frankly they should hide their heads in shame.

[An archist]

Don't wear black hoodies, or listen to Comrade Joe. Both will result in some sort of skirmish with someone.

What? What's wrong with black hoodies?

[Killfacer]

The fashionistas can just fuck off. I've got me a pair of jeans and a t-shirt (sometimes with a shirt over it), usually with a jacket. If my jeans are too loose I put on some braces and if they're too tight I generally stop wearin them after a while because they're fucking uncomfortable.

People in the kind of pictures Bilan posts in these threads tend to look like the kind of ****s you'd find ording pretentiously named coffees at starbucks or going into some poncey wine bar in central london. Frankly they should hide their heads in shame.

The second paragraph is true. Seriously though... braces? How old are you?? :scared:

[Jazzratt]

The second paragraph is true. Seriously though... braces? How old are you?? :scared:

Older than you, but it might be more a fact of shaving my head a little more than you.

[Killfacer]

Older than you, but it might be more a fact of shaving my head a little more than you.

I used to have a number one, now i see the light.

[Jazzratt]

I used to have a number one, now i see the light.

heh. I used to have shoulder length stuff but now I have seen the light...bouncing off my haed :P

[Angry Young Man]

The fashionistas can just fuck off. I've got me a pair of jeans and a t-shirt (sometimes with a shirt over it), usually with a jacket. If my jeans are too loose I put on some braces and if they're too tight I generally stop wearin them after a while because they're fucking uncomfortable.

People in the kind of pictures Bilan posts in these threads tend to look like the kind of ****s you'd find ording pretentiously named coffees at starbucks or going into some poncey wine bar in central london. Frankly they should hide their heads in shame.

If I ever have kids, the first boy's totally gonna be called Jazzratt. It probably won't be the stupidest name on the school register too.

[Bilan]

The fashionistas can just fuck off. I've got me a pair of jeans and a t-shirt (sometimes with a shirt over it), usually with a jacket. If my jeans are too loose I put on some braces and if they're too tight I generally stop wearin them after a while because they're fucking uncomfortable.

People in the kind of pictures Bilan posts in these threads tend to look like the kind of ****s you'd find ording pretentiously named coffees at starbucks or going into some poncey wine bar in central london. Frankly they should hide their heads in shame.


Whinge whinge. If you care about what people order at Starbucks you seriously need to pull your head out of your ass and find something better to do with your time then worry about what other people order at some shitty, commercial café; or whether they go to a "poncy" (?) wine bar.
Seriously, occupy your time with something of more value than tediously whinging about how "pretentious" other people are.

And by the sounds of your look, accompanied by your head which now mirrors your arse, you sound like the type of prick who makes people feel uncomfortable or threatened. I'd much rather look pretentious than look like a thug.

[AlMack]

you live in florida? would imagine chuck taylors, khakis/dickies or camo shorts n tshirt in that climate

[Jazzratt]

Whinge whinge. If you care about what people order at Starbucks you seriously need to pull your head out of your ass and find something better to do with your time then worry about what other people order at some shitty, commercial café;

I'm really not worried about what they order, it's okay. I'm mocking them. I'm sure whatever cup of boiling shit they order is just scrumptuosto them and everything but it is one of those signs of being a complete tosser. Just like being fashionable or a vegan.


or whether they go to a "poncy" (?) wine bar.

I would argue that this is something to worry about. Wine bars, cocktail bars, gastro-pubs and their soulless clientel are crimes not only against sensible drinking establishments but an affront to the hard drinking lads and lasses who sup ales in said sensible establishments. The fucking places should be firebombed and any found to have attended them for prefence should be shot with a rifle.


Seriously, occupy your time with something of more value than tediously whinging about how "pretentious" other people are.

I've master multi-tasking thanks, I can gainfully occupy my mind and think some people are pretentious twats.


And by the sounds of your look, accompanied by your head which now mirrors your arse, you sound like the type of prick who makes people feel uncomfortable or threatened.

I certainly don't intend to threaten anyone and I think that threat is more to do with gait, verbal habits and the other miscellania of bearing. Clothing is largely irrelevant.


I'd much rather look pretentious than look like a thug.

I know you would, and do. Even if I did look like a thug though I wouldn't don the vestaments of the endless vapid hordes of wankers.

[Bilan]

I'm really not worried about what they order, it's okay. I'm mocking them. I'm sure whatever cup of boiling shit they order is just scrumptuosto them and everything but it is one of those signs of being a complete tosser. Just like being fashionable or a vegan.

The utter stupidity of which your opinion is based on is remarkable. It's quite hard to comprehend how someone can put together such an utter load of shit, and then feel confident enough to type this vile crap as if it contained an element of truth.



I would argue that this is something to worry about. Wine bars, cocktail bars, gastro-pubs and their soulless clientel are crimes not only against sensible drinking establishments but an affront to the hard drinking lads and lasses who sup ales in said sensible establishments. The fucking places should be firebombed and any found to have attended them for prefence should be shot with a rifle.

You're an idiot.




I've master multi-tasking thanks, I can gainfully occupy my mind and think some people are pretentious twats.


I'm somewhat suspicious.



I certainly don't intend to threaten anyone and I think that threat is more to do with gait, verbal habits and the other miscellania of bearing. Clothing is largely irrelevant.

Well, if you're a total dipshit then the way someone dresses is irrelevant. But for everyone else with an ounce of sense within them, who is at least semi-conscious, certain "appearances" becoming evidently linked with certain attitudes and certain behavior in certain contexts. Hence, dressing like a skinhead is associated with violence and aggression. To even imply it's irrelevant is beyond stupid. That is just absurd. You live in a fucking fantasy world.




I know you would, and do. Even if I did look like a thug though I wouldn't don the vestaments of the endless vapid hordes of wankers.

Haha. I'm hardly heart broken at some petty accusation of looking pretentious. It merely triviales your own opinion, as it reflects the sorely evident fact that you are totally and utterly full of shit. And don't "did". Don't talk shit. Boots, braces, shaved head: That is a thuggish look. You're being a complete and utter dumb arse if you think that it's not, as you're seperating an appearance from it's constructed image - which is beyond stupid.

[Bilan]

I take people who irritate me far too seriously.

[Jazzratt]

The utter stupidity of which your opinion is based on is remarkable. It's quite hard to comprehend how someone can put together such an utter load of shit, and then feel confident enough to type this vile crap as if it contained an element of truth.

I appear to have struck a nerve.


You're an idiot.

I'm not the one incapable of understanding overstatement.


Well, if you're a total dipshit then the way someone dresses is irrelevant. But for everyone else with an ounce of sense within them, who is at least semi-conscious, certain "appearances" becoming evidently linked with certain attitudes and certain behavior in certain contexts. Hence, dressing like a skinhead is associated with violence and aggression. To even imply it's irrelevant is beyond stupid. That is just absurd. You live in a fucking fantasy world.

What bollocks. If I saw a person with an absolutely timid and unnassuming bearing I would see absolutely no reason to fear tat they would be aggressive. Even if they were in full fucking nazi stormtrooper get up.



Haha. I'm hardly heart broken at some petty accusation of looking pretentious.

Clearly your heart is made of stern stuff indeed. Mine has been wavering ever since you called me a thug.


It merely triviales your own opinion, as it reflects the sorely evident fact that you are totally and utterly full of shit.

I'm not really sure how. simply claiming I'm full of shit is really a bit week.


And don't "did". Don't talk shit. Boots, braces, shaved head: That is a thuggish look.

Fine. Whatever. It's still better than all the wank you lot wear.


You're being a complete and utter dumb arse if you think that it's not, as you're seperating an appearance from it's constructed image - which is beyond stupid.

I've never met anyone so unreasonable as to assume someone is a thug immediatly, in the absence of any actual thugging.

[An archist]

I still don't know what's wrong with black hoodies.:(

[Bilan]

I appear to have struck a nerve.

I'm merely playing my part. The CC is getting boring. Drama in the forum with the same acronym.




I'm not the one incapable of understanding overstatement.

I called you a thug. Seriously.




What bollocks. If I saw a person with an absolutely timid and unnassuming bearing I would see absolutely no reason to fear tat they would be aggressive. Even if they were in full fucking nazi stormtrooper get up.

You can't honestly tell me that the skinhead aesthetic doesn't conjure up the image of violence or aggression, or isn't in the least bit threatening. That is just silly and you know it. That, and or, you've missed every characterization of skinheads by the media since the beginning of that subculture.





Clearly your heart is made of stern stuff indeed. Mine has been wavering ever since you called me a thug.

:blushing:




I'm not really sure how. simply claiming I'm full of shit is really a bit week.

Well, you're a tuesday.




Fine. Whatever. It's still better than all the wank you lot wear.

Nonsense.




I've never met anyone so unreasonable as to assume someone is a thug immediatly, in the absence of any actual thugging.

You don't get out much, do you? It's a preconcieved prejudice. Appearance is associated with a particular type of behavior. E.g. Punks = rowdy, drunk, stupid. Is this necessarily true of all punks? No. Is this the popular conception of punks nonetheless? Yes, and if not all three, at least one. Why? Because that is the way they are characterised and dramatised in the media, both in a historical and contemporary sense. Whether in film, newspapers, television, etc.
Skinheads are in exactly the same boat, despite the characterisations being different. For them, as you're no doubt aware, it has more to do with violence, aggression or Neo-Nazism/fascism. Despite the fictitious nature of all of these, especially the last one, that is still how they're characterised.
It is not unreasonable to be view someone in this way because this opinion one holds of people who appear in a certain way is forced on them: it is not surprising, especially when one isn't conscious of how that opinion was formed. What is unreasonable is that this idea is constructed, and that it is done so on a fictitious basis.

[Raúl Duke]

2. England is not hot. Spain and Italy are.


I live in Florida, it is hot, humid, full of nasty bugs, and I am surrounded my bigots. That depresses me. I'll take grey any day.

Actually, Florida gets cold sometimes (late fall which coincides with the fall semester and the first month of the year sometimes, which coincides with my spring semester. Altought perhaps all due to "cold fronts")...colder then Puerto Rico.

Actually I would prefer to be in Spain and/or Italy then in England...! The northern parts of those countries are probably nice enough temperature (compared to Puerto Rico; also I'm sure it snows in northern Italy so that means it does get pretty cold...well at least for me and I never seen snow personally.)

But I do agree with you about the bigots and odd people in Florida.

[Il Medico]

Actually, Florida gets cold sometimes (late fall which coincides with the fall semester and the first month of the year sometimes, which coincides with my spring semester. Altought perhaps all due to "cold fronts")...colder then Puerto Rico.

Actually I would prefer to be in Spain and/or Italy then in England...! The northern parts of those countries are probably nice enough temperature (compared to Puerto Rico; also I'm sure it snows in northern Italy so that means it does get pretty cold...well at least for me and I never seen snow personally.)

But I do agree with you about the bigots and odd people in Florida.
I was torn between Northern Italy and England. But if I moved to Italy, I'd want to be around family. This means Southern Italy, which is hot, and I really don't like heat. And yes it gets barely cold. Light jacket weather for most for winter occasionally you need something warm. But need I remind you that in January days still had highs of 80? I mean people were cutting their grass in February, fucking ridiculous.:glare:

EDIT: You've never seen snow??? That's sad. I lived in Atlanta when I was a kid, it would snow around Christmas nearly every year.

[Killfacer]

I was torn between Northern Italy and England. But if I moved to Italy, I'd want to be around family. This means Southern Italy, which is hot, and I really don't like heat. And yes it gets barely cold. Light jacket weather for most for winter occasionally you need something warm. But need I remind you that in January days still had highs of 80? I mean people were cutting their grass in February, fucking ridiculous.:glare:

EDIT: You've never seen snow??? That's sad. I lived in Atlanta when I was a kid, it would snow around Christmas nearly every year.

Plus he figured in England he could bathe in my reflected glory.

[Pogue]

Plus he figured in England he could bathe in my reflected glory.

I do this and I've got the greatest tan from it.

[Angry Young Man]

I was torn between Northern Italy and England. But if I moved to Italy, I'd want to be around family. This means Southern Italy, which is hot, and I really don't like heat. And yes it gets barely cold. Light jacket weather for most for winter occasionally you need something warm. But need I remind you that in January days still had highs of 80? I mean people were cutting their grass in February, fucking ridiculous.:glare:

EDIT: You've never seen snow??? That's sad. I lived in Atlanta when I was a kid, it would snow around Christmas nearly every year.
You say now that you don't like hot weather, but if you're accustomed to Florida, or that's the only climate you've lived in, you will freeze. And England's really rainy. And you say you want to move to London: unbelievably, irrationally expensive there. And the tourists will do your nut in. And the tubes a fucking pox.

Oh and a word of advice, the rest of the world measures temperature in celsius. Move to Northern Spain and hang out with me!! :D

[Il Medico]

My body never got accustomed to Florida. It seems to be saying "get the fuck out of here" most of the time. And Barcelona? Sounds Nice, do you speak the language or are you just winging it? Also I am well aware that Celsius is the norm for the rest of the world. But JD lives/lived in the States, so he know of what I speak.

[Angry Young Man]

Nah if there's a language block I'll just shout English at them slowly.

[Il Medico]

Que?:laugh:

[Angry Young Man]

DO YOU... SPEAK INGERLiSH? WHEEERRRE... IS THE RAMBLERS?

[Il Medico]

No, I don't speak English. Sorry.

[Trystan]

Jeans + t-shirt = affordable safe option. Works for me.

[Raúl Duke]

DO YOU... SPEAK INGERLiSH? WHEEERRRE... IS THE RAMBLERS?



DO YOU... SPEAK INGERLiSH? WHEEERRRE... IS THE RAMBLERS?

No se llama las Ramblas?

:laugh:

It's helpful to know the language of the place you are going especially if it's southern Europe...I went to Florence and not many people off the streets had exactly a working knowledge of English and I heard that this is mostly the case in Southern Europe/Romance language-speaking people. Thus, when I had to hang out with some losers from the U.S. a few times who didn't know English my ability to speak some amount of italian became helpful.
However, some have told me that in Northern Europe like Germany, Belgium, Holland, etc you can find many English speaking people.


Plus he figured in England he could bathe in my reflected glory.
:thumbup1:

[Nwoye]

It's helpful to know the language of the place you are going especially if it's southern Europe...I went to Florence and not many people off the streets had exactly a working knowledge of English and I heard that this is mostly the case in Southern Europe/Romance language-speaking people. Thus, when I had to hang out with some losers from the U.S. a few times who didn't know English my ability to speak some amount of italian became helpful.
I disagree actually. From my experience a significant amount of people are familiar with and can communicate in english, especially people working service jobs like waiters and stuff.

Besides if you're spending an extended amount of time there you'll probably pick the native language up pretty easily. I mean romance languages are easy as fuck; all you have to do is learn vocabulary and that will happen in your day to day activities. The point is don't freak out about not speaking the native language.


However, some have told me that in Northern Europe like Germany, Belgium, Holland, etc you can find many English speaking people.
true.

[Il Medico]

Has anybody else noticed the fashion thread has become the Travel channel?:confused:

[Invincible Summer]

I have a fashion-related question... whenever I wear white dress shirts, my undershirt/beater always shows through, so I can't ever wear only a white dress shirt - I'd have to have a blazer/coat/suit jacket thing on top, or IMO it looks stupid.

What's the trick? I can never seem to find any white dress shirts that are made of a thick enough material to be just pure white.

[which doctor]

I have a fashion-related question... whenever I wear white dress shirts, my undershirt/beater always shows through, so I can't ever wear only a white dress shirt - I'd have to have a blazer/coat/suit jacket thing on top, or IMO it looks stupid.

What's the trick? I can never seem to find any white dress shirts that are made of a thick enough material to be just pure white.
I've encountered this problem too, white dress shirts are usually to be avoided anyways.

[Black Dagger]

I have a fashion-related question... whenever I wear white dress shirts, my undershirt/beater always shows through, so I can't ever wear only a white dress shirt - I'd have to have a blazer/coat/suit jacket thing on top, or IMO it looks stupid.

What's the trick? I can never seem to find any white dress shirts that are made of a thick enough material to be just pure white.

Couldn't you just not wear an undershirt or beater? Or wear a white one?

[Il Medico]

I have a fashion-related question... whenever I wear white dress shirts, my undershirt/beater always shows through, so I can't ever wear only a white dress shirt - I'd have to have a blazer/coat/suit jacket thing on top, or IMO it looks stupid.

What's the trick? I can never seem to find any white dress shirts that are made of a thick enough material to be just pure white.
Well, you got two options:
Not wear a undershirt or beater, if it is warm where you live this will cool you down, although I would avoid staying out in the heat and sweating as that is what the undershirt is meant to absorb. You could also buy no ring, stain resistant shirts, they work, although they are a bit more expensive.

If you live in a cool climate, wear a white under shirt. Colored ones look silly anyways. As long as the under shirt isn't horribly stained, you shouldn't be able to see it. (Of course if it gets that brown you should just throw the damn thing away.) When gets cooler in the fall, you'll probably want to wear a blazer/sports coat with it anyways. And when winter comes, I'd recommend buying an over coat.

Love,
Captain Jack

[Bilan]

Don't wear a singlet underneath. It's a bit strange how people do that anyway, and you always notice when people do. Unless it's cold, and you're wearing a jacket as well, don't wear one.

[Invincible Summer]

If I don't wear an undershirt, you can see my skin tone underneath... and I was referring to white undershirts/beaters anyway and they still show.

I did avoid white dress shirts for the longest time, until my gf complained that I only had black dress shirts. Plus, the classic white shirt-black tie look is snazzy, albeit bourgeois.

[Bilan]

You haven't seen bourgeois until you've seen my outfit (The one I wore tonight).
I looked almost like a French aristocrat.

Like this:

http://www.jarmodesigns.com/costumes/French-Aristocrat.jpg

Anyway, skin undertone? Your shirts are ridiculously thin. And I meal ridiculously.

[Invincible Summer]

You haven't seen bourgeois until you've seen my outfit (The one I wore tonight).
I looked almost like a French aristocrat.

Like this:

http://www.jarmodesigns.com/costumes/French-Aristocrat.jpg

Anyway, skin undertone? Your shirts are ridiculously thin. And I meal ridiculously.

Almost all the white dress shirts I've found have this problem though! And I'm not spending anything over $30 on one...

The picture/French aristocrat comment made me lol

[An archist]

But we still don't know why we shouldn't wear black hoodies.:(

[Mala Tha Testa]

But we still don't know why we shouldn't wear black hoodies.:(

Me neither...

[Il Medico]

Almost all the white dress shirts I've found have this problem though! And I'm not spending anything over $30 on one...

The picture/French aristocrat comment made me lol
Hmmm. You can't find white dress shirts that your skin tone won't show through? Have you looked in Op shops or dare I say.... Wal-mart? I just picked up a nice white dress shirt in the former for $12. I got a decent tan an my skin doesn't show through it.

[spiltteeth]

This is what I wear everyday. Simple. Comfortable. Kids seem to like it. I feel comfortable anywhere I go.

http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/spiltteeth/pikachoo_man.jpg

Of course for job interviews I put on a tie also. I try to remain professional.

[PRC-UTE]

This is what I wear everyday. Simple. Comfortable. Kids seem to like it. I feel comfortable anywhere I go.

http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/spiltteeth/pikachoo_man.jpg

Of course for job interviews I put on a tie also. I try to remain professional.

finally someone with a bit of sense like.

just put add a big tribal tatt on the stomach and you're ready to go.

[spiltteeth]

Here's the back
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/spiltteeth/QCAW89UPECAPZY27LCA2FJLH7CACJUJO4CA.jpg

But then if you exploit me for my labor I feel oppressed and this happens
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/spiltteeth/Pikachuj.jpg

don't worry, she was fine.