Best Rapper Evar

[Nwoye]

For me, it's between GZA and Nas, with Nas just slightly ahead. That being said, every time I finally pick Nas I listen to some old Wu track or something where GZA absolutely kills it. Anyway I'm curious as to your opinions, although I don't know how many hip hop fans there are on these forums. Here are some vids for reference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiQoVv0FSKQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWKaYIOl_Yo
^^^ First verse is GZA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKjj4hk0pV4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-_IFAt8ka0
^^^ I just listened to that like three times in a row... great track.

[Pogue]

any grime artist

[A Revolutionary Tool]

I'd put Immortal Technique up there with the greatest rappers. I would post a video but I'm too young to post links :(.

[Nwoye]

I'd put Immortal Technique up there with the greatest rappers. I would post a video but I'm too young to post links :(.
I really don't like IT. He's a conspiracy theorist with shitty lyrics, a boring flow and an annoying delivery. I listened to two tracks off of Revolutionary Vol. 2 and had to shut it off it was so bad. Needless to say it's no longer on my iPod.

[JimmyJazz]

The Coup are so much better than IT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsUDGxdeICw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8vGw6u0ehE

Intifada is good too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6BTylFKJ8Q

Of mainstream rappers rapping in English, I'd say Tupac and Rakim Allah. Honorable mentions to Q-Tip (Tribe Called Quest) and Chuck D (Public Enemy).

[the last donut of the night]

Lyrically, I would say Nas or Tupac. But I'm not too sure.

[Misanthrope]

Digable Planets anyone?

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or HvBmr_b-Rpg

[JimmyJazz]

Digable Planets are great.

And I just realized, how did the OP forget about this song?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuleONiV7C8

[Pirate Utopian]

And I just realized, how did the OP forget about this song?:

QuleONiV7C8
That's not the original though. The Jay-Z verse is from 99 Problems (obvious with his last line but I reconised it before he said it :cool:).

[JimmyJazz]

No, the original is better lyrics-wise, but this version is more enjoyable. Plus this one has Ghostface Killah whom tha OP mentioned.

[Revy]

I'm glad nobody said Eminem. I despise him.

[Pirate Utopian]

I'm glad nobody said Eminem. I despise him.
His early stuff was okay but he hasnt made a good album since the Marshall Matters LP.

I hate it when puts on a voice when he raps.

[SoupIsGoodFood]

Cool Kids, Afroman, Biggie, Pac.

[Pirate Utopian]

Afroman? He's funny but he's hardly one of the best.

[LeninKobaMao]

The Coup and Immortal Technique are good but the rest are:

Retards
Atempting
Poetry

[ls]

The Coup and Immortal Technique are good but the rest are:

Retards
Atempting
Poetry

Apparently, the CC says 'retard' is not to be used in such a way.

[cleef]

any grime artist

grime is dead mate

was all about Devlin back in the day but the lyrics of most artists have begun to change...

Also...WTF happened to Tinchy Stryder, what is this shit he's peddling out these days?

[Coggeh]

I think the coup , zion I and immortal technique are pretty good . Also the last emperors song Heaven is fucking brilliant

[Pirate Utopian]

The Coup and Immortal Technique are good but the rest are:

Retards
Atempting
Poetry
:rolleyes: silence wackass!

Time for Chuck D.
LB4D-GbQ9A4

[Nwoye]

btw, Tupac is a horribly overrated rapper.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Radical.

[Intifada]

Nas, Andre 3000, The GZA, Rakim, Mos Def and Black Thought off the top of my head.

I could list more but I would not be able to stop.

[brigadista]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhqfijdOIuE

[apawllo]

If I have to pick one I'll say Pharoahe Monch.

[Redmau5]

Kurupt. Not the greatest, but a great rapper nonetheless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU2GAwdoSkc&feature=related


(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU2GAwdoSkc&feature=related)

[SoupIsGoodFood]

Afroman is the best rapper at telling a story in my opinion. But actually I'm gonna say the best rapper is probably KRS 1. Rakim and Chuck D are up there too.

[kalu]

Blackalicious is good shit.

Runners up:

Sage Francis would be a great rapper, but he has little crossover appeal (and intentionally so). Bun B gets props for smoothest flow. Vinnie Paz is pure wickedness, but he has one style of flow and it requires a bit of teeth-gritting to get through some of his violently homophobic lyrics.

On a side note, I used to be enthralled with Immortal Technique until he came to speak at my school and I realized he's a self-important braggadocio. His "deepest" lyrics are really just conspiracy theory, as one person put it, or a random list of facts well-known to most people on this board ("The US is imperialist? NO WAY!")

[SoupIsGoodFood]

I dont like how people say that Immortal Technique and The Coup are the greatest rappers not because of their musical talent but because of their revolutionary lyrics and views. And I'm glad no one proved how white they are by saying Atmosphere or Common.

[LeninKobaMao]

Apparently, the CC says 'retard' is not to be used in such a way.

Well I didn't mean it in the actual "mental retardation" it is just a common thing people who don't like rap say about it. Hope I didn't offend anyone.

[Mephisto]

My favourites are Dead Prez, Public Enemy and Dälek.

[Revulero]

Sorry, I have to say the coup straight up sucks. Dead Prez delivery and beats turn me off. Not much of a fan East Coast rap; just sounds to flat for me. I listen to underground Southside rappers though none of them are revolutionary, some are progressive when rapping about poverty and the struggles of life. I was raised to listen to chopped and screwed a Texas specialty. Makes any song sound bad ass especially when your fucked up.:thumbup1:

[Nwoye]

Apparently, the CC says 'retard' is not to be used in such a way.
well "retard" (as a verb) is a totally legitimate word - it means to delay or obstruct the process of development. If someone is "retarded" or a "retard" then they are someone whose intellectual development has been obstructed in some way, resulting in their overwhelming stupidity.

so there's nothing really wrong with the word.

[ls]

well "retard" (as a verb) is a totally legitimate word - it means to delay or obstruct the process of development. If someone is "retarded" or a "retard" then they are someone whose intellectual development has been obstructed in some way, resulting in their overwhelming stupidity.

so there's nothing really wrong with the word.

That's not how they see it, talk to the CC.

More important to me is does LeninKobaMao agree about being wrong about attacking rap?

For that alone one should be put in a washing machine plus flogged, beaten, tortured and killed.

[Killfacer]

Obviously GZA is the best rapper ever and this is his best song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiQoVv0FSKQ

Others have said, i agree with them, that the only reason IT has come up so much is because of his politcal beliefs and not his musical talents. He's nothing compared to GZA.

[Guerrilla22]

Wu-Tang Clan ain't nuttin to fuck wit!

[brigadista]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BxBs4f4RIU&feature=channel


krs1- ice cube -tribe called quest - ..there are many more...mostly old skool though


one of my fav dead prez

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNuiFwrcev0&feature=related

[Nwoye]

That's not how they see it, talk to the CC.

More important to me is does LeninKobaMao agree about being wrong about attacking rap?

For that alone one should be put in a washing machine plus flogged, beaten, tortured and killed.
oh yeah fuck him for attacking hip hop. i was just making a point about the word "retard".

[Sarah Palin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjOZPjxH1QM&feature=PlayList&p=AB554AB404E7C5D2&index=13

[RotStern]

uhhh Has everybody forgot about BIGGIE SMALLS RAP GENIUS I KEEP THE GLOCK BY THE PENIS :D

[Revulero]

OH yes Notorious B.I.G. notorious for fucking up Hip-Hop. All of the artists today aspire to be something like him thats why they rap about how much money, hoes, and expensive shit they have. Good example Lil Wayne, he calls himself young money wtf, he has catchy beats, but he's overrated as fuck.

[OneNamedNameLess]

This guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-ap5Fp2T6c

[manic expression]

Rakim. No one's ever tried stepping to him or challenging him, which says a lot to me. He's definitely up there, without a doubt.

[Sarah Palin]

Lil Wayne fucking sucks. All he does is talk about his fucking mansion with his raspy little fucking voice. Possibly the greatest rapper alive? Fuck. No. What happened to Nas, Common, Jay-Z, Boots Riley- Just people with actual rhyming skills. Lil Wayne is at the bottom of the fucking totem pole. He is fucking garbage. And fucking "lil"? What fucking 28 year old calls themselves little. Lil wayne is worse than fucking Bow Wow. And Bow Wow is fucking bad.

[Pirate Utopian]

OH yes Notorious B.I.G. notorious for fucking up Hip-Hop. All of the artists today aspire to be something like him thats why they rap about how much money, hoes, and expensive shit they have.
If you listen to his first album it's more about crime and such.

Lyrically Biggie is amazing, listen to Machine Gun Funk for example.

[Mala Tha Testa]

And I'm glad no one proved how white they are by saying Atmosphere or Common.

:(
I like Atmosphere.
Slug's not the best rap artist, by any means though.

I really like, DOOM.
And I'm curious as to why he took the MF off his name.

[Intifadah]

Y12YgEIFcAY

J3Sd2gDkSV8

QeZtbdR6A3w

[Nwoye]

I really like, DOOM.
And I'm curious as to why he took the MF off his name.
:thumbup1:

[Mindtoaster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S2_IBlaCFI

SHAWTY GOT THEM APPLE BOTTOM JEANS :trotski:

[Sarah Palin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S2_IBlaCFI

SHAWTY GOT THEM APPLE BOTTOM JEANS :trotski:

What a fucking ripoff, T-pain isn't even using auto-tune.

[SoupIsGoodFood]

:(
I like Atmosphere.
Slug's not the best rap artist, by any means though.


A. Slug is a mediocre rapper at best who whines about how deep he is and all his relationships that didn't work out. Shit, I remember my first girlfriend too.
B. Everyone knows that Ant is Slug's *****. Thats not debatable, its a concrete fact, backed up by evidence like "Oxygen is good for you".
C. You win the Soup Is Good Food Whitest Person on RevLeft Award, sponsored in part by Dead Prez. Your whip will be in the mail.

[Mala Tha Testa]

A. Slug is a mediocre rapper at best who whines about how deep he is and all his relationships that didn't work out. Shit, I remember my first girlfriend too.
B. Everyone knows that Ant is Slug's *****. Thats not debatable, its a concrete fact, backed up by evidence like "Oxygen is good for you".
C. You win the Soup Is Good Food Whitest Person on RevLeft Award, sponsored in part by Dead Prez. Your whip will be in the mail.

Yeah?!
:)

[Invader Zim]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a30El2mngVs&

[ComradeOm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z1kRhiPE0E

Edit: I'm serious

[KC]

Edit: I'm serious

I just lost all respect for you and am deeply offended that you would not only consider The Streets decent in any way, but that you would consider it rap at all.

[ComradeOm]

I just lost all respect for you and am deeply offended that you would not only consider The Streets decent in any way, but that you would consider it rap at all.What can I say? I know nothing about guzzlin' forties in da hood but used to spend plenty of weekends getting plastered and fighting outside clubs

[KC]

What can I say?

The absolute least you can say is sorry. That's the least you could do.

[JimmyJazz]

Don't feel bad ComradeOm, I like the Streets.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/vtm20002000/haters.gif

[Radical]

Tupac & Immortal Technique

Life Goes On - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W69SSLfRJho

Dance with the Devil - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qggxTtnKTMo

[brigadista]

er ....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgB8JQ7ivxw

purley..better than the streets

[Nwoye]

british people shouldn't be allowed to rap. srsly.

[MilitantWorker]

B8mYU6ffNGI

BLACKTHOUGHT IS THE BEST ALIVE!

first one in the video, second is common, third is pharaohe monche

ps - LIL WAYNE AND DRAKE SUCK. THIS IS REAL RAP, REAL FREESTYLING. NO PDA's INVOLVED.

[Invader Zim]

er ....HgB8JQ7ivxw

purley..better than the streets

I loled.

[brigadista]

yeah its funny and not serious but still better than the streets...

[Pogue]

Radical is the best rapper ever.

Thread closed.

[Invader Zim]

yeah its funny and not serious but still better than the streets...

Seriously, that is one of the funniest things I've ever seen on youtube. Have some rep.

[kalu]

british people shouldn't be allowed to rap. srsly.

Hey, what about Dizzee Rascal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pnJPX60vXA

vid's wack, song's good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubesJeT9Bus&feature=channel

better vid.

[MilitantAnarchist]

Eminem..... you cant deny it, fucking amazing lyrics.
Or Public Enemy, they have more to say then 'i sell crack to kids to get more money'

[cleef]

british people shouldn't be allowed to rap. srsly.

What?

There are so many good UK Artists its unreal

You're not one of these "its not rap unless its from Brooklyn" lot are you?

Check these out for some decent UK rap

Kano- P's & Q's
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Tinchy Stryder- Everybody's Gotta Learn
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Devlin- Xtra Xtra
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[Das war einmal]

The Coup of course, but lets not forget this hero:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-j_l7SkYCc
I'm falling up flights of stairs, scraping myself from the sidewalk, jumping from rivers to bridges, drowning in pure air. Hip Hop is lying on the side of the road, half dead to itself. Blood scrawled over its mangled flesh, like jazz, stuffed into an oversized record bag. Tuba lips swollen beyond recognition. Diamond studded teeth strewn like rice at karma's wedding. The ring bearer bore bad news. Minister of information wrote the wrong proclamation. Now everyone's singing the wrong song. Dissonant chords find necks like nooses. That nigga kicked the chair from under my feet. Harlem shaking from a rope, but still on beat. "Damn that loop is tight." Nigga, found a way to sample the way the truth the light. Can't wait to play myself at the party tonight. Niggas are gonna die. Cop car swerves to the side of the road. Hip Hop takes its last breath. The cop scrawls vernacular manslaughter onto a yellow pad, then balls the paper into his hand, deciding he'd rather free-style. "You have the right to remain silent." You have the right to remain silent. You have the right to remain silent. And maybe you should have before your bullshit manifested.

These thugs can't fuck with me, they're too thugged out. Niggas think I'm bugged out, 'cause I ain't Sean John or Lugged out. This ain't hip hop no more, son, it's bigger than that. This ain't ghetto no more, black, it's bigger than black. So where my aliens at? Girl, we're all illegal. This system ain't for us. It's for rich people. And you ain't rich, dawg, you just got money. But you can't buy shit to not get hungry.

Telegram to Hip Hop: Dear Hip Hop .(stop). This shit has gone too far. (stop). Please see that mixer and turntables are returned to Kool Herc. (stop). The ghettos are dancing off beat. (stop). The master of ceremonies have forgotten that they were once slaves and have neglected the occasion of this ceremony. (stop). Perhaps we should not have encouraged them to use cordless microphones, for they have walked too far from the source and are emitting a lesser frequency (stop). Please inform all interested parties that cash nor murder have been added to the list of elements. (stop). We are discontinuing our current line of braggadocio, in light of the current trend in "realness". (stop). As an alternative, we will be confiscating weed supplies and replacing them with magic mushrooms, in hopes of helping niggas see beyond their reality. (stop). Give my regards to Brooklyn.

These thugs can't fuck with me, they're too thugged out. Niggas think I'm bugged out, 'cause I ain't Sean John or Lugged out. This ain't hip hop no more, son, it's bigger than that. This ain't ghetto no more, black, it's bigger than black. So where my aliens at? Girl, we're all illegal. This system ain't for us. It's for rich people. And you ain't rich, dawg, you just got money. But you can't buy shit to not get hungry.

[Das war einmal]

Saul Williams really has brilliant songs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRsgavuG4sg

[brigadista]

gil scott heron and the mighty LKJ

[political_animal]

The greatest rappers bar none

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEnK145M9-A

[Vendetta]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpP-8tJ-9Js

i dont think i could ever rap that fast

[Nwoye]

What?

There are so many good UK Artists its unreal

You're not one of these "its not rap unless its from Brooklyn" lot are you?
no (but I am a huge fan of 90's new york hip-hop). being american, i just don't find the accent pleasing to listen to in the form of rapping. also, it seems that most british rappers i come across tend to be from the south (london), and southerners, particularly londoners usually have a much more pronounced and harsher accent from the point of view of an american. it's not like i think british people are inherently shitty at rapping (although I'm not impressed by what I've seen in this thread), I just don't find it pleasing to listen to.

[Misanthrope]

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chi town wut wut

[Misanthrope]

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[Hampton]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Q7FLdD35jNs/SomKWUGoJeI/AAAAAAAAA0c/o9QKsk5mmuw/s320/Raekwon_Cuban_Revolution-front-large.jpg

[Hiero]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Q7FLdD35jNs/SomKWUGoJeI/AAAAAAAAA0c/o9QKsk5mmuw/s320/Raekwon_Cuban_Revolution-front-large.jpg

Is this a remix album?

[Hampton]

Mixtape..pretty good.

01. Cuban Revolution Intro
02. All That Money Is Us
03. Run Away feat. Ghostface Killah, Inspectah Deck, Method Man & GZA
04. Better Shoot Something
05. Cipher Born feat. Ghostface Killah & U-God
06. Get Your Shit Beat In feat. Polite, Chip Banks, Ghostface Killah & Trife Diesel
07. Slang Copulation feat. Nas, Cappadonna & Ghostface Killah
08. Curiosity
09. Iron Chef feat. Ghostface Killah, Polite & Inspectah Deck
10. A Wise Man
11. Cuban Revolution Interlude
12. We Gettin' Knots feat. Fat Joe, Armageddon & Big Pun
13. Fearless Ninjas feat. Ghostface Killah
14. The All-Time Lineup feat. American CREAM Team, Inspectah Deck & Method Man
15. Live Kid feat. Notorious BIG & Ghostface Killah

[The Bear]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro08bILEvqc

[MilitantWorker]

grime is dead mate

Hilarious. So is Hip-Hop too apparently..

ON THAT NOTE

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K-Lash.

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My Walk-out music.

[AlMack]

FREE MAX B










that is all

[Sayf Udeen]

The Brothahood. Sweet as.
Last FM or MySpace them.

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

1. Boots Riley from the Coup
2. Mos Def
3. Stic.man and M1 (Dead Prez)
4. Roots Manuva http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbuSdXKtJX4
5. Talib Kweli
6. Q Tip
7. Nas
8. Chuck D
9. Rakim
10. CL Smooth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiOcVWQY2bc


Shite...just realised I missed Black Thought, KRS and Andre 3000 out - who know where theyd fit in!

[Pogue]

Whoever said british people can't rap and whoever said grime is dead is a mug. srsly.

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

gil scott heron and the mighty LKJ


Pioneers...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtBy_ppG4hY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydv0ryxZEmQ

[mudflap]

Has nobody said Gang Starr? 'Just To Get A Rep' is amazing. Also Big Daddy Kane on tracks like 'Set It Off' or 'RAW' must be up there. Chuck D - outstanding back in the day and the same goes for Rakim (think of 'I Aint No Joke'). Even LL was known to rock the mic in those days.

[manic expression]

Has nobody said Gang Starr? 'Just To Get A Rep' is amazing.

Guru and Premier...too good. Full Clip is a pure classic.

[mudflap]

Guru and Premier...too good. Full Clip is a pure classic.

damn straight!

[Intifadah]

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[synthesis]

FREE MAX B










that is all

Highly unlikely.

[makesi]

Would I be being sacrilegious to say that I think Chuck D is extremely overrated? And that Rakim's lyricism is not overwhelming, either?

Guru, someone mentioned Guru above, is, on the other hand, very talented and a serious artist, in my opinion.

Did anyone on this thread--I haven't gone through the earlier posts in a month or so--talk about the Living Legends crew? I think Mystik Journeymen and the Grouch have produced some high quality material. Some of the others, like Eligh and Scarub, are kind of like some of the mainstream artists I like, e.g. Nas, Jay-Z, Jeru: they produce occassional pearls but are excessively inconsistent in their ability to continuing doing so.

[Pavlov's House Party]

Wu Tang Clan is my personal favorite, they're very entertaining and ODB was fucking hilarious.

[synthesis]

Whoever said british people can't rap and whoever said grime is dead is a mug. srsly.

Well, actually, British people can't rap, and grime never died because it was a miscarriage to begin with. Seriously, you people should just stick to naming things after other things that rhyme with it.

[bricolage]

and whoever said grime is dead is a mug. srsly.

Actually it was Logan Sama :D

http://a276.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/92/l_dbedea869280734f0fe4530e6e5acf13.jpg

[un_person]

What about Immortal Technique or The Coup?

[brigadista]

not the best eva but i like it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmJqzEVKwoU

[BurnTheOliveTree]

The best one by quite a long way in my view is Saul Williams. It's really not even like he just edges out the competition slightly, he's completely on another insane level.

After that:

Gil Scott Heron - fucking quality obviously.
Scroobius Pip - Best UK, by a long shot.
The Streets - I agree with the dude who says he's got experience of getting plastered and going to clubs and can therefore relate. This music is relevant to some people's lives, certainly. He was definitely best on his first album though.

Riz MC - Sick. :) Might have actually flipped my opinion on Islam with one track.

[FreeFocus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEHRz_4ROLQ

Quasimoto (aka Madlib) - Low Class Conspiracy. This shit is ill. He's not the best rapper ever, but you have to appreciate the brilliance of these beats and lyrics.

[brigadista]

why i love the coup.....in the uk -------bailiffs....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkY1EuPYf8E

[DesertShark]

Eminem..... you cant deny it, fucking amazing lyrics.

example:
"you couldn't make the fans throw up their hands if they swallowed their fingers"
"your ass forgot, so just in case you don't remember me I'll run your brain around the block to jog your fucking memory"
"One thought in my cerebral is deeper then a Jeep full of people"
he's also a great freestyle rapper


His early stuff was okay but he hasnt made a good album since the Marshall Matters LP.

I hate it when puts on a voice when he raps.
Its not a voice, people from metro Detroit talk like that sometimes. You should check out his newest album, Relapse; you'll feel dirty just listening to it.

Saul Williams is awesome. He found a box filled with poetry on the street, that's where Amethyst Rock comes from; he published all the poems in a book The Dead Emcee Scrolls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSR7H580e5U
So are Mos Def and Dead Prez.

I think Bugz from D12 (he was killed and Eminem replaced him) is an excellent rapper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUyQVLaUwKw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO1A5ZuFf7g&feature=related

[Orange Juche]

Duh, it's obviously Will Smith! :lol:

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gz2wUlugI0

[FreeFocus]

This thread deserves a second life. :cool:

YG'z - Do or Die

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dVrBVhcbcQ&feature=player_embedded

[Mälli]

Radical.

By the way why is he banned from revleft?

[The Red Next Door]

british people shouldn't be allowed to rap. srsly.
oh Shut up

[The Red Next Door]

anarchist academy and direct raption.

[The Ben G]

Public Enemy, fools!

[dakid]

Check this out on youtube /watch?v=wUIHFwNpuA0

[Sarah Palin]

Bubba Sparxxx's second album, before he did that Ying Yang Twins SHIT, is great. Samples a lot of old bluesy songs

[Dimentio]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PakjHLcS_zU

The rap begins at 2:15

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

British rappers > yank rappers

[Delenda Carthago]

Εminem.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Devlin.

[Decolonize The Left]

btw, Tupac is a horribly overrated rapper.

Maybe, but this is just silly, especially 3:08 on:
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Anyway, back on track:
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All time classic:
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- August

[un_person]

I would for sure say The Coup or Immortal Technique, I would also say that Zack de la Rocha from Rage was a rapper and he was amazing.

[Stand Your Ground]

Can't decide so I'm gonna post a few:

Eminem
Tech N9ne
Crooked I

And for those saying British people shouldn't rap...
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[Chimurenga.]

I don't get Immortal Technique. He calls himself a revolutionary yet he's entirely misogynistic and homophobic.

[Stand Your Ground]

I don't get Immortal Technique. He calls himself a revolutionary yet he's entirely misogynistic and homophobic.
Unfortunately revolution means different things to different people.

[Comrade Tiny]

Mos Def
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and im really liking The Roots at the moment
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[FreeFocus]

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Dope stuff from Mic Geronimo..

[RadioRaheem84]

I've noticed that in the UK the rap they like is very NY based. How come the UK has no love for West Coast and Southern rap? Do Slim Thug and Paul Wall not make it over there?

That's probably some of the most creative makeshift stuff ever. Their lyrics are comical.

[Invincible Summer]

Blackalicious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foEU2WHdOzA

[thatdevious]

Big L was clever and fun. Mos Def and Talib Kweli are Blackstar is the best album of all time.

[Pjotr]

I'm not that familiar with rap music, but from the stuff I know Nas is definately the best. Illmatic is just brilliant.

And offcourse there's allways Rakim. :cool:

[Jacobinist]

Lil Wayne.


LULZ :laugh:

[HEAD ICE]

Hollow Da Don, one of the current battle rappers who can actually spit a hot track

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[Jacobinist]

Immortal Technique.

Southern rap is mostly crap.

[Mendax]

Boots Riley is probably my favourite of all time. (The Coup + He Raps in Tom Morello's new band) Although in all the interviews he does I've never seem him do a serious answer - he always seems to be mocking the interviewer XD

[berlitz23]

Shame on all of you for disregarding the greatest hip hop album of all time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfV602zA-Pg

[FreeFocus]

Shame on all of you for disregarding the greatest hip hop album of all time

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Knuckleheadz wasn't on Illmatic..

[Hoggy_RS]

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Big L was the man(R.I.P)

[HEAD ICE]

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Big L was the man(R.I.P)

Wow! I was just coming to this thread to post Big L. Such a shame the man passed away. He may not have platinum records but he sure has platinum respect.

My contribution - R.A. The Rugged Man. Easily the best white rapper, his verse in Jedi Mind Tricks' Uncommon Valor maybe the best I have ever heard:

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(R.A.'s part starts around 1:10)

[berlitz23]

Big L far superior lyricist than Notorious B.I.G.

[berlitz23]

Knuckleheadz wasn't on Illmatic..

Illmatic is a seminal hip hop album, but Wu Tang Clan solidified and legitimized East Coast Hip Hop, This album is the pinnacle of east coast all the way.

[Madvillainy]

Big L far superior lyricist than Notorious B.I.G.

You're insane. Big L was a decent punchline rapper and his freestyles are fun but his album is just your average 90s NY hip hop, nothing special at all. Compare it to Biggies two classics 'ready to die' and 'life after death'.....:cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7yQwQtSN7M&feature=related

[Guerrilla22]

People haven't mentioned A Tribe Called Quest or the Roots yet which kinda has me pissed off.

[Jacobinist]

People haven't mentioned A Tribe Called Quest or the Roots yet which kinda has me pissed off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9siqJAT8uA

[Pirate Utopian]

Immortal Technique.

Southern rap is mostly crap.
Shows what you know.
IT is crap, man.
No flow, rubbish beats and filled with conspiracy crap.

Southern hip-hop is atleast fun.
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[Jacobinist]

Shows what you know.
IT is crap, man.
No flow, rubbish beats and filled with conspiracy crap.

Southern hip-hop is atleast fun.


Lolz IT is crap? Coming from the guy ^ who cites nothing about corporate Mtv approved rappers, that's a compliment!!!!:thumbup1:


*On edit: I like outkast.

[Madvillainy]

Lolz IT is crap? Coming from the guy ^ who cites nothing about corporate Mtv approved rappers, that's a compliment!!!!:thumbup1:

*On edit: I like outkast.

IT is crap. He's a faux revolutionary who spews the most homophobic and sexist shit over possibly the worst selection of beats I've ever had the displeasure of listening to.

[Pirate Utopian]

Coming from the guy ^ who cites nothing about corporate Mtv approved rappers, that's a compliment!!!!
Maybe you should listen to the songs, instead of making generalisations about southern hip-hop, it aint where you from, it where you at.

Alot of southern hip-hop is very interesting and alot of it is exploring new things while "refined rapfans" listen to IT because he raps "razorsharp" (about conspiracy theories and homophobic jokes that is).
Whatever man, I thought hip-hop was about fun.

With east coast and the west coast having done their time in the spotlight, the rise of southern hip-hop isnt without it's pitfalls (nor was east and west) but in the end it's gonna bring it's own element to hip-hop.

I'd take Lil Wayne over IT anyday, because I think that Wayne is more true to what hip-hop means than IT.
Hip-hop is changing and "superduperunderground" rappers (not dissing the underground just those that act as if non-underground hip-hop has no virtue) like IT cant keep up, because they are boring.

I dont wanna listen to hip-hop to only go "wow, what a insane lyricist" even more than that I want to get pumped up, relaxed, something good to bop my head to.
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[dubaba]

1. Biggie- His flow is just too good
2. Nas- Very close to biggie
3. Raekwon- Great story teller

[Jacobinist]

Maybe you should listen to the songs, instead of making generalisations about southern hip-hop, it aint where you from, it where you at.

Alot of southern hip-hop is very interesting and alot of it is exploring new things while "refined rapfans" listen to IT because he raps "razorsharp" (about conspiracy theories and homophobic jokes that is).
Whatever man, I thought hip-hop was about fun.

With east coast and the west coast having done their time in the spotlight, the rise of southern hip-hop isnt without it's pitfalls (nor was east and west) but in the end it's gonna bring it's own element to hip-hop.

I'd take Lil Wayne over IT anyday, because I think that Wayne is more true to what hip-hop means than IT.
Hip-hop is changing and "superduperunderground" rappers (not dissing the underground just those that act as if non-underground hip-hop has no virtue) like IT cant keep up, because they are boring.

I dont wanna listen to hip-hop to only go "wow, what a insane lyricist" even more than that I want to get pumped up, relaxed, something good to bop my head to.



Good point. We all know MTV promotes legitimate artists with a message and vision.:rolleyes:


We all know that lil wayne is not sexist::rolleyes:

Every Girl - Lil Wayne lyrics:

I like a long haired thick red bone
open up her legs they filet mignon that pussy
Ima get in and on that pussy
if she let me in Ima own that pussy
gon throw it back and bust it open like you posed to
girl I got that dope dick
now come here let me dope you
you gon be a dope fiend

^ How very interesting this Lil Wayne corporate lap-dog, is.

[Pirate Utopian]

Good point. We all know MTV promotes legitimate artists with a message and vision.:rolleyes:


We all know that lil wayne is not sexist::rolleyes:

^ How very interesting this Lil Wayne corporate lap-dog, is.
Dont be so pedantic, your posting style is very consending.

Who is talking about MTV?, do they even air music anymore?, I'm talking about southern hip-hop.
Why do stress is that mainstream hip-hop is not bad per se.

The difference between Lil Wayne and IT is first of all that Weezy doesnt pretend to be a revolutionary socialist. IT talks about revolution on one track then talks about "*****es taking a dick" on another.

Lil Wayne is interesting for trying new things, he even had a rock album, IT has been the same style for 3 albums now.

Hip-hop is about fun and IT is not fun, it's not something to bounce to, chill out to, getting fired up to.
Same (non-)flow, same beats, every single song.

As for Lil Wayne, try his song Georgia Bush. Strongly political song about hurricane Katrina.

More southern hip-hop:
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Here's something not southern but good nonetheless:
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[Hoggy_RS]

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Sick tune as someone mentioned tribe. So laid back, love it.

[Jacobinist]

Dont be so pedantic, your posting style is very consending.

Who is talking about MTV?, do they even air music anymore?, I'm talking about southern hip-hop.
Why do stress is that mainstream hip-hop is not bad per se.

The difference between Lil Wayne and IT is first of all that Weezy doesnt pretend to be a revolutionary socialist. IT talks about revolution on one track then talks about "*****es taking a dick" on another.

Lil Wayne is interesting for trying new things, he even had a rock album, IT has been the same style for 3 albums now.

Hip-hop is about fun and IT is not fun, it's not something to bounce to, chill out to, getting fired up to.
Same (non-)flow, same beats, every single song.

As for Lil Wayne, try his song Georgia Bush. Strongly political song about hurricane Katrina.


Who is talking about MTV? You are, with Ludacris, Lil Wayne and 'southern-rappers.' So Lil Wayne is interested in new things? Like turning women into open quote "dope fiends?' I dont see any artistic value or message.

And stop with the beat, its not like Lil Wayne has heart wrenching lyrics.

[Pirate Utopian]

You are a bore and so is IT. I'm not gonna bother with you.

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[Jacobinist]

You are a bore and so is IT. I'm not gonna bother with you.




^ Ok. I know, Truth Can Suck.

[Madvillainy]

Who is talking about MTV? You are, with Ludacris, Lil Wayne and 'southern-rappers.' So Lil Wayne is interested in new things? Like turning women into open quote "dope fiends?' I dont see any artistic value or message.


Where is the artistic value or message in this?


Why you tryin’ to be hardcore, you fuckin’ homo-thug?/ and don’t be sensitive and angry at the shit that I wrote/ ‘cause if you can take a fucking dick, you can take a joke- Immortal Tech


Give me a hundred grand, give me your watch, give me your chain. /That's your girl? *****, get over here and give me some brain. /I'll bust off on her face and right after the segment, /She'll probably rub it in her pussy, trying to get herself pregnant- Immortal Tech

I think I'll just stick with 'shitty southern hiphop' :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-yYwKYqtsU

[Jacobinist]

Where is the artistic value or message in this?





I think I'll just stick with 'shitty southern hiphop' :



Choice is yours, but Lil Wayne, lolz. IT is obnoxious, Lil Wayne is crap.:laugh:

[brigadista]

agree to disagree music is a personal thing we all like different things- that is not a crime!!!!!

[Madvillainy]

Listening to Immortal Technique should be a crime.

[Jacobinist]

Listening to Immortal Technique should be a crime.

But buying one of Lil Wanyes corporate approved cd's should be be given with a medal!!!

[Uncle Hank]

Listening to Immortal Technique should be a crime.
Yeah and you can get your reactionary stooge pigs to enforce it. :)

jk, but anyone here like Army of the Pharaohs? I don't know much about them besides that I like several of their songs.

[Chairman Wow]

just on the subect of immortal technique and "corporate rap". music is apolitical unless the musician declares it to be a political statement, Lil' Wayne is clearly making apolitical music whereas Immortal Technique is attempting to combine politics with music which makes him more open to scrutiny for his use of homophobic slurs.

Basically if you prioritize political statements in music over the actual enjoyability of the music, you'll find yourself: 1) listening to garbage purely for the political message contained in it. 2) eventually not listening to said garbage because they made a song which was at odds with their supposed message or signed to a label which didnt present itself as political 3) not listening to music at all when you realise it's art/leisure and not a complete political tool.

[FreeFocus]

just on the subect of immortal technique and "corporate rap". music is apolitical unless the musician declares it to be a political statement..

Wrong. Everything is political, even if it is apolitical on the surface. "Apolitical" things or people actually reinforce the status quo - this is political.

[Redmau5]

Early Mobb Deep, way before their embarrassing step down to "G-Unit". :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_0JRXlzReA

The Infamous is one of the best rap albums ever.

[Anti-Zionist]

Have you guys ever heard of Jedi Mind Tricks?

[here for the revolution]

Jedi Mind Tricks are insane!

[More Fire for the People]

If you think MTV doesn't play your favorite artists (and that's why you like them), then you're sadly mistaken. Blackalicious, Quasimoto, A Tribe Called Quest, EPMD, KRS-One, etc. are all played on MTV. Hell, even Blue Scholars have appeared on MTV.

I don't like to pick a favorite rapper but lately I've been diggin CyHi da Prynce and P!ll.

They're the second and third artists on this song:
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[Anti-Zionist]

I like a bit of Balkan rap. A famous rapper from Bosnia, who know resides in Croatia, known as Edo Maajka, is one of my favourites.

Mater vam jebem (fuck your mother/motherfucker) - Edo Maajka. This song is about the Balkan Wars during the period of 1990-1995.

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[Intifada]

Jay Electronica.