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☭World Views
4th August 2009, 15:04
Is there a specific year or event that marked the change from revolutionary to reformist politics in the Soviet Union?

When did the USSR degenerate from the dictatorship of the proletariat?

Manzil
4th August 2009, 15:32
It was definitely a Wednesday.

The Author
4th August 2009, 20:09
There is really no way to pinpoint this to a specific year or event, the USSR degenerated over a period of time due to quantitative changes in society at the base and superstructure after the end of the Second World War due to the intensification of the class struggle, with degeneration lasting throughout the 1950s, and into the 1960s and 1970s. The quantitative changes led to the qualitative changes, where by the 1980s the social system was giving way from whatever remained of socialism to capitalism.

Ismail
4th August 2009, 20:35
Khrushchev's policies of "peaceful co-existence" and these two quotes:

"In our country, for the first time in history, a State has taken shape which is not a dictatorship of any one class, but an instrument of society as a whole, of the entire people...
The dictatorship of the proletariat is no longer necessary".
(N.S. Khrushchov: Report on the Programme of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, 22nd. Congress CPSU; London; 1961; p. 57, 58).

"Our Marxist-Leninist Party, which arose as a party of the working class, has become the Party of the entire people".
(N.S. Khrushchov: Report on the Programme of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, 22nd. Congress CPSU; London; 1961; p. 90).

Sum it up.

Read: http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/1964/phnycom.htm

Revy
4th August 2009, 20:48
1924.

Nwoye
4th August 2009, 20:50
1924.
go on.

Pogue
4th August 2009, 20:51
1918, following the Bolshevik consolidation of state power and the subsequent repression of workers power. I guess it culminated in the supression of the Kronstadt revolt but it began in 1918.

Durruti's Ghost
4th August 2009, 21:08
It began in December 1917, when the Supreme Economic Council, Vesenka, was created. This was the first step toward supplanting workers' power and transforming the existing condition of embryonic state socialism into one of state capitalism. Although Kronstadt was an important event, I wouldn't say the transformation was complete until the rise of Stalin.

robbo203
4th August 2009, 21:43
Is there a specific year or event that marked the change from revolutionary to reformist politics in the Soviet Union?

When did the USSR degenerate from the dictatorship of the proletariat?

It was capitalist revolution from the start - there simply was no other option on the cards given the political and economic backwardness of Russia at the time

It is absurd to imagine that it was ever a "dictatorship of the proletariat". A dictatorship over the proletariat yes but a dictatorship of the proletariat - never. Not even Lenin believed this could literally be the case and advocated instead that vanguard party should rule - purportly representing the interests of the working class class but in reality constituting in embryonic form a new ruling exploiting class

Revy
4th August 2009, 21:48
go on.

Stalin's rise to power, succeeded Lenin after his death.
Although the title asked for an exact year, I would have said something like "mid-20s to early 30s".

el_chavista
4th August 2009, 22:19
Is there a specific year or event that marked the change from revolutionary to reformist politics in the Soviet Union?
Since 1975 the economic growth rate remained at a modest level as concerned to the apparatchiki's self-interest.

Firstly Gorbachóv took economic measures that collapsed the economy and later (as recommended by the western credit banks) a policy of economic shock to return to capitalism.

Ismail
5th August 2009, 22:49
Stalin's rise to power, succeeded Lenin after his death.Marxists don't base the rise and fall of socialism over a person's heart ceasing to beat. Actions speak louder than obituaries.

NecroCommie
5th August 2009, 23:56
Marxists don't base the rise and fall of socialism over a person's heart ceasing to beat. Actions speak louder than obituaries.
It think he knows this, he was just asked a specific year so he gave one.

As to my oppinion, it must be the failures on other countries that doomed russia. Failure to spread the revolution cornered the working class country to a remote and rural land where it would be a struggle just to survive. This goes especially to a society based on socialist principles hated by the rest of the countries.