Greed a crime?!?

[Pol Pot]

Me and one of my friends were discussing about making greed a punishable crime. Greed is what capitalism is based on and most of human misery can be traced back to greed...

ppl..?

[scarletghoul]

How would you criminalise greed? Greed manifests itself in many many differant forms, and it would be next to impossible to list and outlaw every one of them

[Pol Pot]

How would you criminalise greed? Greed manifests itself in many many differant forms, and it would be next to impossible to list and outlaw every one of them

well that is the challenge of it. Although I liek the idea :)
Its bedtime here so I'll have to sleep on it ... cheers

[F9]

Moved
:lol:I wasnt sure to move this thread in here, or in the trash..Im still not sure..

[Misanthrope]

You can't criminalize a motive, you can only criminalize an action.

[KurtFF8]

I think this thread was a joke... at least I hope so.

[scarletghoul]

Pol Pot does not joke around.

[Kukulofori]

You can't criminalize a motive, you can only criminalize an action.

Tell that to hate crimes...

that said hate crimes are a really dumb idea and so is this. All criminalising motives does is give racist judges a bullshit excuse to jail minorities extra, and all criminalising anything does is give judges an excuse to jail anyone.

[fiddlesticks]

might as well throw everyone in jail then. We are all greedy to some extent.. besides, it would be very difficult to prove in court that someone is being greedy. At what point would it become a crime? If someone doesn't give money to the poor, would they be arrested?

[Luís Henrique]

might as well throw everyone in jail then.
Please don't give Pol Pot ideas.

Luís Henrique

[Luís Henrique]

Greed is what capitalism is based on and most of human misery can be traced back to greed...
No, capitalism is definitely not based on greed. That is what cappies say: that capitalism cannot be suppressed, because it is based on greed, and greed is an inherent part of human nature.

But capitalism is based on the private property of means of production, on the production of commodities by means of commodities, on capital, and on wage labour. Without those, you can have as much greed as you wish, but you can't have capitalism.

Luís Henrique

[SubcomandanteJames]

Criminalizing greed? Realize that greed is defined as "an excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves." How do you criminalize that? It's so subjective. What next: outlaw egoism? Self-interest? Where do we draw the line? I'll tell you-- IN THE ACTION: Greed should never be criminalized until it infringes upon the liberties of someone else, but that would be criminalizing the action, not the motive.

[SubcomandanteJames]

No, capitalism is definitely not based on greed. That is what cappies say: that capitalism cannot be suppressed, because it is based on greed, and greed is an inherent part of human nature.

But capitalism is based on the private property of means of production, on the production of commodities by means of commodities, on capital, and on wage labour. Without those, you can have as much greed as you wish, but you can't have capitalism.

Luís Henrique

Maybe capitalism wasn't founded upon greed, but greed definitely sustains it. And while the elements you named are necessary for capitalism, some may argue that their existence, or their continued existence, is the product of greed. However, I also theorize that the "human greed" argument that capitalists use is invalid as well in many cases. It negates that human greed is BRED when they are fed into an environment that supports or even makes necessary the enaction of that greed for means of survival or success.

[F9]

Member is banned, anw the thread was kinda a joke, so closed