Not sure which organisation to join >_______>

[scarletghoul]

I live in Norfolk, where there doesnt seem to be active communist organisations (maybe there are some in norwich i dunno).
Really i'd like to join the cpb or their young communist league or something, but they dont seem to have a presence in the east. I know theres some anarchists and SWP in norwich, but id rather join a communist party.
So does anyone know any organisations that are active in Norfolk for me to choose from?

[bellyscratch]

Maybe join CPB to be able to help them financially but get involved more in single issue groups in your area alongside other leftist groups. This way you may other meet other like minded people to help build a CPB branch in your area.

Just a suggestion anyway and good luck with your choice :)

[nuisance]

We have the Commies on the run in EA.

[New Tet]

I live in Norfolk, where there doesnt seem to be active communist organisations (maybe there are some in norwich i dunno).
Really i'd like to join the cpb or their young communist league or something, but they dont seem to have a presence in the east. I know theres some anarchists and SWP in norwich, but id rather join a communist party.
So does anyone know any organisations that are active in Norfolk for me to choose from?

If you join the "cpb" there will be a presence in the east. Mind you, I'm not endorsing the cpb but if that's the party you like, help build it!

[scarletghoul]

Maybe, but I don't like starting new things alone.. Maybe I'll convert one of my friends to communism and make them join with me.

[Q]

Off topic (or rather on topic :p ), but this made me chuckle :)


Organisation: People's Front of Judea (Marxist-Leninist)

[Ned Flanders]

but since you´re a Maoist, isn´t cpgb-ml more your cup of tea?

[Pogue]

CPB are social democrats.

[Q]

CPB are social democrats.
Could you expand on that?

[scarletghoul]

but since you´re a Maoist, isn´t cpgb-ml more your cup of tea?
They seem like a small group that doesnt have much relevence. And anyway Im not that keen on Stalin like they are. I think it would be better to join a larger party like the CPB because they have more relevence and theres gonna be more activity to do.
I do think CPGB-ML are pretty cool though, theyre on my maybe list

[Pogue]

Could you expand on that?

The CPB believe that Britain can become socialist through Parliamentary reforms following the election of combined CPB and Labour party candidates. They don't believe in revolution anymore.

[Red Apex]

Maybe, but I don't like starting new things alone.. Maybe I'll convert one of my friends to communism and make them join with me.

What ever you choose good luck! But don't "make" your friends join you. Give them items to read and speak to them about what you believe but don't be to harsh and I'm sure in no time you will have plenty of friends and people willing to join you!

[BobKKKindle$]

If you join the "cpb" there will be a presence in the east. Mind you, I'm not endorsing the cpb but if that's the party you like, help build it!

I broadly agree with this. I'm sure there were some areas where the Bolsheviks only had one activist to begin with, but over time, if you become part of broader social struggles, like the anti-war movement, or a local campaign against the BNP, and you put forward the right strategies and arguments, you can win people's confidence and respect, and that way people will start to see you as a leader, and may even join your organization. For example, the SWP branch at my university used to only have one member who couldn't do much on their own, but now we have more than ten members, most of whom have joined during the course of this year, since we began to enter other campaigns, and act as a coherent organization, which only became possible once we had a handful of activists. As for which organization, I would obviously prefer it if you joined the SWP or another Trotskyist party like the SP. When you say you want to join a Marxist-Leninist party, what does that mean? Do you want a party that stands on what you see as the right side of disputes over historical fact, like the class nature of the USSR, or the achievements of Maoist China? Or do you think there are also concrete organizational and strategic differences between parties like the SWP and the CPGB-ML? If you are fixated on joining a Marxist-Leninist party then as HLVS says best not make it the CPB as they have basically given up even a superficial commitment to proletarian revolution (read the BRS if you doubt it) and were also heavily involved in the nationalist NO2EU campaign - something that would personally turn me away, although I don't know your opinion on that issue. Personally I would go with FRFI/RCG. We have a lot of political differences but overall they seem like good activists who have a sold line on imperialism and the struggle against racism. They appear at lots of leftist events (unlike some of the other small groups on the left like the NCP and CPGB-ML) and having spoken to them a few times they are always respectful and willing to engage in rational discussion over areas where we disagree.

[scarletghoul]

As much as I don't agree with the CPB's BRS, they are still the main communist party and I'm sure there are many other members who disagree with it. Isn't the point of democratic centralism that you can disagree and argue but have unity of action? Thats why I don't like groups to split over differances like this instead of debating and acting in unity. I think its important to have a mass party rather than many small ones.
And I think No2EU is alright (I voted for them).
I guess I should just join a party even if there are not many other members in the East, but I thought maybe it could be awkward and I don't really know what kind of thing I would be expected to do. Was kinda hoping there would be some group thats active around here but I guess there's not :/

Thanks for the advice everyone :). After my depression and anxiety problems start to clear up I'll join a party and get active.

[Pogue]

start up a peoples army

[scarletghoul]

ok pogue i will as long as you kill yourself

[Pogue]

get the peoples army to kill me instead

[scarletghoul]

you are the peoples army. you are the revolution. to fulfill your role you must kill yourself

[Pogue]

never trust a maoist, the fucking scabs

[scarletghoul]

wankkka

[Pogue]

maoist from norfolk

[scarletghoul]

wtf are you doing posting stupid shit like this in every thread?

[Pogue]

oh dont stop now this was fun

[Communist Theory]

Fuck affiliation.
I'm just commie scum far as the gov't cares.

[Revy]

I'd probably join the CPGB :cool:

[Q]

I'd probably join the CPGB :cool:
As that isn't full of stalinists or maoists, I'm sure that option isn't on the table.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Normal4Norfolk

[Revy]

As that isn't full of stalinists or maoists, I'm sure that option isn't on the table.

I was only speaking of myself, though.

[scarletghoul]

As that isn't full of stalinists or maoists, I'm sure that option isn't on the table.
Why? I don't view opinions on historical figures as terribly important.

However it isn't on the table because it seems like a small sectarian group without potential

[Philosophical Materialist]

The CPB believe that Britain can become socialist through Parliamentary reforms following the election of combined CPB and Labour party candidates. They don't believe in revolution anymore.

The second sentence above is incorrect. The operative word in the first sentence is can. Even though personally I think the potential for the former is unlikely.

Strategic Parliamentarianism is nothing new to Marxism, as indeed Marx and Lenin both found uses for it.