even the ats realizes america is responsible.

[samofshs]

in this article they basically say that america and the dollar are responsible for global economy collapse. somebody care to send them a letter to the editor telling them how it is not america, but capitalism in general and if we start anew with just another capitalism it will still fall. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread485127/pg1

[Marx]

Surely we cant just say that it is capitalism's fault because we went from having a right wing government in the USA to a now left wing one, and things are falling as fast as ever

[scarletghoul]

Wow Marx, you sure have changed your tune since you wrote about this stuff 150 years ago.

[Muzk]

Don't america and the dollar equal capitalism?

[OneNamedNameLess]

Surely we cant just say that it is capitalism's fault because we went from having a right wing government in the USA to a now left wing one, and things are falling as fast as ever

Piss off troll!

[ckaihatsu]

Surely we cant just say that it is capitalism's fault because we went from having a right wing government in the USA to a now left wing one, and things are falling as fast as ever


*Very* interesting article from the corporate press...!

Looks like Obama's political ground is shrinking to the size of a pinpoint....


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http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=8358376

ABC News


Health Care: Obama Faces Angry Liberals


Issues Include Mixed Messages on Public Option, Uncertainty Among Seniors
By JAKE TAPPER

August 19, 2009—

President Obama is facing some problems with his left flank.

With previous weeks of Congress' August recess focused on conservative anger about health care reform, the White House now finds itself facing some angry liberals.

They're disappointed with what they see as signals President Obama is not willing to fight for the inclusion of a government-run public health care plan to compete with private insurers and drive down costs.

It may be forcing the administration to regroup and change course.

"The president and the White House have not done a stellar job on messaging this," said Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y.

"White House officials recognize that the president's original strategy has failed and they have to start fresh in a number of ways," ABC News' George Stephanopoulos said today on "Good Morning America."

Obama's Stance on The Public Option

A central issue is that lawmakers are hearing mixed messages on the importance of including a public health care plan in the final bill.

Asked June 23 if the public plan was non-negotiable, Obama told ABC News, "Right now, I will say that our position is that a public plan makes sense."

A few weeks later in his July 18 weekly address, the president said that "any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange...including a public option."

But Saturday brought a slightly different message.

"The public option, whether we have it or we don't have it, is not the entirety of health care reform," Obama said. "This is just one sliver of it."

Another problem for the president is confusion among senior citizens.

Since July, the AARP -- generally supportive of the notion of reform -- has seen 60,000 members cut up their cards.

According to Kevin Donnellan, AARP executive vice president and chief communications officer, the AARP has also seen 1.7 million people join or renew their membership during the same period. Still, Donnellan said, "We take the loss of our members seriously."

The AARP is meantime "working to dispel several of the myths that have warped the health care reform debate ...horror stories about euthanasia and rationed care," he added.

Retirement Community Meetings to Separate Fact From Fiction

In the weeks ahead, some retirement communities will begin holding health care meetings with members of Congress to help separate fact about health care reform from fiction.

At a retirement community in New Jersey, Bill Albach received an anonymous flyer spreading misinformation about the health care reform bill, preying on seniors unsure of their medical security.

"Word is going around if you are 65 or older and you have cancer and your hip breaks, will they replace your hip? Nobody knows for sure," he said.

"I think his biggest vulnerability on this issue are the elderly," said Matthew Dowd, a political consultant and former Republican strategist. "If the elderly turn against him on this, there is no way he can fashion any real health care reform."

A White House official maintains that Congress will opt to do something over nothing when lawmakers return from the August recess.

According to Stephanopoulos, Congress' group of bipartisan negotiators is planning another conference call for tomorrow night.

Still, he added, "They're going to have to find a way to do this almost solely with Democratic votes."

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[RedAnarchist]

Surely we cant just say that it is capitalism's fault because we went from having a right wing government in the USA to a now left wing one, and things are falling as fast as ever

I wouldn't call the current US administration left-wing. Centre-left maybe, but the Democrats are far more centrist than leftist in my opinion.