View Full Version : How many Revolutionaries have actually fired a gun?
SocialPhilosophy
24th July 2009, 10:20
Im curious.
RainbowLeftist
24th July 2009, 10:27
Fired a gun multiple times. I learned how to shoot with help from Ex-Military.
SocialPhilosophy
24th July 2009, 10:28
If so, what is your favorite gun?
SocialPhilosophy
24th July 2009, 10:35
Fired a gun multiple times. I learned how to shoot with help from Ex-Military.
Depending on what Branch and service this person was from, i might suggest forgetting everything they told you about shooting. >.>
RainbowLeftist
24th July 2009, 10:38
Depending on what Branch and service this person was from, i might suggest forgetting everything they told you about shooting. >.>
Army (Korea Vet)
Army National Guard (Iraq/Afghanistan Vet)
Navy
Why?
SocialPhilosophy
24th July 2009, 10:41
Fired a gun multiple times. I learned how to shoot with help from Ex-Military.
Army (Korea Vet)
Army National Guard (Iraq/Afghanistan Vet)
Navy
Why?
Sometimes they know what they're talking about, sometimes they just get people killed. the army is starting to loose its marksmanship standards because they have guns that can just fill the air with lead and pray something connects. the kind of marksmanship that is going to help the public will be done with semi auto rifles and bolt action rifles.
I fired a water gun on several occasions.
RedRise
24th July 2009, 10:47
Are you encouraging us to learn how to shoot?
As much as I am a revolutionary, I don't believe in extreme violence, like shooting people.:(
I do, however, agree that the marksmanship standards in the military would be going down now that everyone has machine guns and stuff. Sad that the true warrior is disappearing as new technology arrives. :closedeyes:
...Am planning to go paint-balling.:D
RainbowLeftist
24th July 2009, 10:49
My friends that were in the military always spoke highly of the "One Shot, One Kill" idea. Though, when it hits the fan, Im sure that went right out the window.
h0m0revolutionary
24th July 2009, 10:55
I did my work experience in the Army :/. So I have, but it wasn't anything life-changing lol.
SocialPhilosophy
24th July 2009, 11:10
Are you encouraging us to learn how to shoot?
As much as I am a revolutionary, I don't believe in extreme violence, like shooting people.:(
I do, however, agree that the marksmanship standards in the military would be going down now that everyone has machine guns and stuff. Sad that the true warrior is disappearing as new technology arrives. :closedeyes:
...Am planning to go paint-balling.:D
Yes. i am encouraging you to learn how to shoot.:cool:
SocialPhilosophy
24th July 2009, 11:11
My friends that were in the military always spoke highly of the "One Shot, One Kill" idea. Though, when it hits the fan, Im sure that went right out the window.
Im sure it did to all but the most experienced veterans.
SocialPhilosophy
24th July 2009, 11:20
i think guns are the most effective tool to project power (no pun intended). even when you don't use them. but the key is, knowing when and where to use them. That is why i think everyone should be educated in their use.
pastradamus
24th July 2009, 11:46
Im curious.
Why are you even asking this?
Sounds like some misogynistic bullshit question.
SocialPhilosophy
24th July 2009, 12:02
Why are you even asking this?
Sounds like some misogynistic bullshit question.
You think the revolution is going to be carried out with sticks and stones?
Verix
24th July 2009, 12:06
It's funny i live in a place where everybody has multiple guns (rural oklahoma)
yet ive never fired one other then a BB gun. as soon as i hit 18 in 2 months i plan on buying a shotgun, the only good thing about the U.S. is its gun laws
danyboy27
24th July 2009, 12:09
Why are you even asking this?
Sounds like some misogynistic bullshit question.
i dont see nothing misogynistic in that question.
except if you consider gun a misogynistic tool, and that would be really stupid.
jake williams
24th July 2009, 12:26
I've killed three U.S. presidents, twice with sniper rifles and once with a ninja death star. But the FBI can't find me because I'm on the internet and the Internet is anonymous.
SocialPhilosophy
24th July 2009, 12:26
It's funny i live in a place where everybody has multiple guns (rural oklahoma)
yet ive never fired one other then a BB gun. as soon as i hit 18 in 2 months i plan on buying a shotgun, the only good thing about the U.S. is its gun laws
is it for home defense or just to have one?
SocialPhilosophy
24th July 2009, 12:27
I've killed three U.S. presidents, twice with sniper rifles and once with a ninja death star. But the FBI can't find me because I'm on the internet and the Internet is anonymous.
so that makes you... well over a hundred? :rolleyes:
jake williams
24th July 2009, 13:02
so that makes you... well over a hundred? :rolleyes:
One of them is a president you don't know about.
SocialismOrBarbarism
24th July 2009, 13:16
Yes.
I shot FDR in the neck.
SocialPhilosophy
24th July 2009, 13:22
Yes.
I shot FDR in the neck.
i shot Jefferson in the Dome. :cool:
pastradamus
24th July 2009, 13:23
You think the revolution is going to be carried out with sticks and stones?
A revolution can be carried out through the ballot box as well. I do condone the use of arms though.
SocialPhilosophy
24th July 2009, 13:35
A revolution can be carried out through the ballot box as well. I do condone the use of arms though.
It is more likely that the people will have to take back their power by force of arms, than voting. and if not, leaning to defend yourself, and become self sufficient through hunting and farming is still a good idea.
SocialismOrBarbarism
24th July 2009, 13:36
A revolution can be carried out through the ballot box as well. I do condone the use of arms though.
Do you think the capitalist class would just accept our victory peacefully, or is an inevitable counter revolution more likely?
SocialPhilosophy
24th July 2009, 13:44
Do you think the capitalist class would just accept our victory peacefully, or is an inevitable counter revolution more likely?
Nah. Everyone likes being stripped of their power.
Dean
24th July 2009, 13:49
Voted "yes." I'm from VA after all.
SocialPhilosophy
24th July 2009, 13:52
Voted "yes." I'm from VA after all.
Your advatar is trippy. Southerners dont always agree with the pro gun stance, after all.
Pogue
24th July 2009, 14:23
I fired a gun the day I became a man.
Dust Bunnies
24th July 2009, 17:18
I have not so far because I am under 18 and my parents are anti-gun.
Coggeh
24th July 2009, 17:29
Their is no connection between firing a gun and being a revolutionary.
xericcartmanfanx
24th July 2009, 17:34
:DI fired one real Gun, but there was in the Army-school. :blushing:In my private life, i no shoot.
danyboy27
24th July 2009, 17:46
Their is no connection between firing a gun and being a revolutionary.
haa come on!
revolution=violence
violence=the use of weapons
I've killed three U.S. presidents, twice with sniper rifles and once with a ninja death star. But the FBI can't find me because I'm on the internet and the Internet is anonymous.
*LMAO* Well done fellow Guelphite.
Jack
24th July 2009, 21:17
I learned how to shoot when I was a like 11 or 12, mostly bolt action rifles and a revolver. I can work with hand-help weapons the best, being pretty decent at reloading them quickley and can turn a revolver into a semi-auto in about a minute.
I haven't fired a gun in about 4 or 5 years though, and don't own one.
Il Medico
24th July 2009, 21:27
I did my work experience in the Army :/. So I have, but it wasn't anything life-changing lol.
They allow homosexuals in the Army in Britain? What the fuck? Is America the only first world nation with the crap "Don't ask, don't tell" policy???
*Note, I don't think anyone should join the military. They are imperialist scum and murders who serve only to protect capitalist interest. I just really hate the blatant homophobia in the military.
* As for the OP's question. I have a really realistic (looking) air soft gun I have fired a number of times, does that count?
War Cry
24th July 2009, 21:29
I've shot a gun. A couple of revolvers, a few bolt action rifles and then my uncle thought it would be really funny to watch me shoot a shotgun when I was twelve with absolutely no warning that the thing kicked like a mule.
I don't think the ballot will never bring true revolution, only compromise and co-optation. At least not in America. That would be a threat to global capitalism, and capitalism will always protect it's property.
Kukulofori
24th July 2009, 22:06
The American ballot box won't even bring cooperation. I think Obama's about the best we're going to get.
I've held a gun, and I intend to get its owner to teach me how to fire it sometime in the next couple weeks. And when I can afford it I plan to get one.
Only reactionaries haven't fired a gun of any kind and they need purging NOW.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_h91ga2xo8z4/Rnlb7y2G7cI/AAAAAAAACKA/mfFI_g9eGpI/s200/anarqu1._zapatista.gifmid.gif.png
ÑóẊîöʼn
24th July 2009, 22:43
I've fired a .22 rifle and the L98A1 Cadet GP rifle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L98A1_Cadet_GP_Rifle). Army Cadets is a fun lark and getting into the Shooting Team was the icing on the cake.
Why are you even asking this?
Sounds like some misogynistic bullshit question.
Misogynistic? What the fuck? :blink:
#FF0000
24th July 2009, 23:00
I have a lot of guns and I have fired a lot of guns. I learned to shoot from my dad, who was the head security officer (read: counter-terrorism or something) on his ship. I think he certified as an Expert with a .45 pistol a few times.
ThorsMitersaw
25th July 2009, 00:19
"Reactionary (also reactionist) refers to any political or social movement or ideology that seeks a return to a previous state (the status quo ante) and opposes changes in society it deems harmful."
Funny, so many of you promote control and subjugation... seems awful old world to me
Jazzratt
25th July 2009, 01:42
Only really once. A 12 gauge, the make and model of I cannot recall for the life of me. I was okay with it.
Of course if the revolution comes down to a long term shooting war someone has fucked it up.
Jack
25th July 2009, 01:43
"Reactionary (also reactionist) refers to any political or social movement or ideology that seeks a return to a previous state (the status quo ante) and opposes changes in society it deems harmful."
Funny, so many of you promote control and subjugation... seems awful old world to me
Out of place trolling is out of place.
JimmyJazz
25th July 2009, 01:56
Voted yes.
But this poll really needs a "Yes, and I came" option.
Invariance
25th July 2009, 02:03
I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.
ÑóẊîöʼn
25th July 2009, 02:09
I have a lot of guns and I have fired a lot of guns. I learned to shoot from my dad, who was the head security officer (read: counter-terrorism or something) on his ship.
Was it a civilian vessel? I didn't think they carried any weapons at all, which is why pirates find them such easy pickings...
Conquer or Die
25th July 2009, 02:27
I shot guns with my dad growing up. My favorite was the "Dirty Harry Gun" or the .44 magnum. I fired bolt action, replica civil war revolvers, and various other guns including glocks.
Bud Struggle
25th July 2009, 02:44
I shoot guns all of the time. Part of my collection:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/949432332HeXvp5p.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/25897964gunwall_0408.jpg
And here's some buds from my country club getting ready for the "Revolutiuon!"
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/43925624multi_cam.jpg
My yacht club has some good arms, too. You can turn a cabin cruser into a missle launching gun ship in just a couple of hours. The plan is: the country clubs and the yacht clubs will control the east and west coasts of Florida. The anti-Fidel Cubans will get Miami and the rednecks (you don't even want to know!) will take over the interior.
All set for the Revoltion. Bring it on!:thumbup::redstar2000::thumbup:
Robert
25th July 2009, 02:55
the rednecks (you don't even want to know!) will take over the interior.
That would be ... moi.
Bud, you can ski down my mountain if I can ski behind your boat. Is it a deal?
Bud Struggle
25th July 2009, 03:04
That would be ... moi.
Bud, you can ski down my mountain if I can ski behind your boat. Is it a deal?
A deal! But after the "Revolution" is over and the Reactionaries win the battle we victors all have to have a gentleman's agreement that we won't institute slavery for those Communists that took part in the Revolution. :cool:
Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor
25th July 2009, 03:09
I fired a BB-gun once. I voted "no" because that isn't a real gun. I did learn how to keep one eye closed because of it. Strangely, I can only keep my left eye closed and my right open, and not the other way around. Exciting.
danyboy27
25th July 2009, 03:36
you know tom, for once i dont think you are joking about all that...
LuÃs Henrique
25th July 2009, 03:51
No.
What does this have to do with revolution?
Luís Henrique
Robert
25th July 2009, 04:35
The capitalists have property, power and guns. They won't give up the property or the power unless you shoot them, and so you have to be able to a) shoot; and b) shoot better than they do. Or so goes the argument.
If you have never shot a gun, you may end up in the typing pool come the revolution. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
danyboy27
25th July 2009, 04:58
never fired a gun, but i got mad mcguiver skill, so i guess i would end up making traps bombs and logistics.
its just amazing what you learn to fix when your are raised in a completly broke family
Jack
25th July 2009, 05:19
The capitalists have property, power and guns. They won't give up the property or the power unless you shoot them, and so you have to be able to a) shoot; and b) shoot better than they do. Or so goes the argument.
If you have never shot a gun, you may end up in the typing pool come the revolution. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
But we outnumber them....
LuÃs Henrique
25th July 2009, 05:20
But we outnumber them....
We also outbrain them.
Luís Henrique
ThorsMitersaw
25th July 2009, 05:22
But we outnumber them....
Even a 1911 with a non military style magazine carries 8 rounds. Do the math
LuÃs Henrique
25th July 2009, 05:23
The capitalists have property, power and guns. They won't give up the property or the power unless you shoot them, and so you have to be able to a) shoot; and b) shoot better than they do. Or so goes the argument.
If you have never shot a gun, you may end up in the typing pool come the revolution. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Their property only means anything if it is socially accepted; if workers refuse their command, what are they going to do? Call the police? The army? What if cops and soldiers also refuse their orders?
Revolution is a political operation, not a military one. And we need no other guns than our enemies'.
Luís Henrique
danyboy27
25th July 2009, 05:35
Their property only means anything if it is socially accepted; if workers refuse their command, what are they going to do? Call the police? The army? What if cops and soldiers also refuse their orders?
Revolution is a political operation, not a military one. And we need no other guns than our enemies'.
Luís Henrique
even if its not socially accepted, its to be considered that landowner will eventually raise their own milita to protect their assets.
if the army dosnt back him he gonna turn his head toward people who are scared or have ressentiments and hire them.
that what i would actually do.
RedScare
25th July 2009, 07:27
Yes. It's not that special.
SocialPhilosophy
25th July 2009, 12:47
Guns are the only true means to achieve what we believe in. but Americans rights to keep and bear arms are increasingly being attacked, not just by restricting gun ownership, but by taxing ammo, and supplies used to make it. that is why i think that socialists need to take active steps in ensuring that we are able to keep our guns until the time is right, in which we can act.
Robert
25th July 2009, 13:35
But we outnumber them....
Depending on how you define "capitalist," no, I don't think you do.
Bud Struggle
25th July 2009, 14:06
Depending on how you define "capitalist," no, I don't think you do.
Indeed we Capitalists breed Proletarians without Class Consciousness like Sauron breeds Orcs. :)
SocialPhilosophy
25th July 2009, 14:10
Indeed we Capitalists breed Proletarians without Class Consciousness like Sauron breeds Orcs. :)
Didnt greed blind Sauron until he got pwnt by the fellowship?
:rolleyes:
Steve_j
25th July 2009, 14:51
Guns are the only true means to achieve what we believe in. but Americans rights to keep and bear arms are increasingly being attacked, not just by restricting gun ownership, but by taxing ammo, and supplies used to make it. that is why i think that socialists need to take active steps in ensuring that we are able to keep our guns until the time is right, in which we can act.
Any future armed revolution that would occur in the US, would without a doubt recieve huge amounts of weapons from foreign bodies. You might need to accept weapons from organiseations that you would not usually want to be associated with. But without a doubt, there will be many willing to aid in overthrowing the current regime. Infact they would probably be cueing up to give you weapons.
SocialPhilosophy
25th July 2009, 15:57
Any future armed revolution that would occur in the US, would without a doubt recieve huge amounts of weapons from foreign bodies. You might need to accept weapons from organiseations that you would not usually want to be associated with. But without a doubt, there will be many willing to aid in overthrowing the current regime. Infact they would probably be cueing up to give you weapons.
I am certain of that fact, but receiving these weapons and forming some kind of Organizational flow of these weapons would be difficult, and leadership would be tough in these situations.
Phalanx
25th July 2009, 16:29
I think it's funny in a sad sort of way that the OP called anyone on this board a revolutionary.
Anyway, yes, I've been hunting since I was 12 and first fired one when I was 8. I've got two myself.
SocialPhilosophy
25th July 2009, 16:48
I think it's funny in a sad sort of way that the OP called anyone on this board a revolutionary.
Anyway, yes, I've been hunting since I was 12 and first fired one when I was 8. I've got two myself.
This forum was intended for Revolutionaries. i didn't assume everyone posting WAS a revolutionary.
SocialPhilosophy
25th July 2009, 17:56
I shoot guns all of the time. Part of my collection:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/949432332HeXvp5p.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/25897964gunwall_0408.jpg
And here's some buds from my country club getting ready for the "Revolutiuon!"
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/43925624multi_cam.jpg
My yacht club has some good arms, too. You can turn a cabin cruser into a missle launching gun ship in just a couple of hours. The plan is: the country clubs and the yacht clubs will control the east and west coasts of Florida. The anti-Fidel Cubans will get Miami and the rednecks (you don't even want to know!) will take over the interior.
All set for the Revoltion. Bring it on!:thumbup::redstar2000::thumbup:
Im not even going to mention all the grateful outside help that the revolutionaries would receive. :lol:
danyboy27
25th July 2009, 20:24
Im not even going to mention all the grateful outside help that the revolutionaries would receive. :lol:
outside help is like a gangbang, it goes both way :D
SocialPhilosophy
25th July 2009, 20:45
outside help is like a gangbang, it goes both way :D
im sure there are plenty of governments worldwide that would be glad to see an end to the current US regime
ThorsMitersaw
25th July 2009, 20:54
im sure there are plenty of governments worldwide that would be glad to see an end to the current US regime
Only so that they may establish their own. the enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.
Bud Struggle
25th July 2009, 20:58
A Revolution could just as easily set up a Fascist World Order as a Communist one.
You have to be careful with such things. If you start and Revolution and LOSE--things certainly won't just go back to they way they were before. And at least in the forseeable future you'll lose.
ThorsMitersaw
25th July 2009, 21:08
A commenter above made the observation that guns are not needed and I think I mostly agree with that sentiment. A revolution of ideas is what will ultimately bring down the state. Ultimately their guns can not enforce their perverted forms of property rights, corporatism, controlled Keynesian economic fascism nonsensical imperialism upon the world. It can only supplement the victory over minds.
"The Politics of Obedience: The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude"
- by Étienne de la Boétie
http://tmh.floonet.net/articles/laboetie.html
hooray! I can finally post links
bcbm
25th July 2009, 21:33
I own a .380 automatic and I've also fired a .45.
SocialPhilosophy
25th July 2009, 22:19
Only so that they may establish their own. the enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.
There is an average of 27 guns per person in America. Any foreign nation would play hell invading us.
#FF0000
25th July 2009, 22:24
Was it a civilian vessel? I didn't think they carried any weapons at all, which is why pirates find them such easy pickings...
Oh no. My dad was on a Destroyer in the Navy.
mikelepore
25th July 2009, 22:36
You think the revolution is going to be carried out with sticks and stones?
I say the revolution is going to be carried out by the majority of the people reaching new ways of thinking in the future, so that the political process will eventually enact a mandate that will legally transfer ownership of the industries to make them into public institutions.
Bud Struggle
25th July 2009, 23:00
I say the revolution is going to be carried out by the majority of the people reaching new ways of thinking in the future, so that the political process will eventually enact a mandate that will legally transfer ownership of the industries to make them into public institutions.
You don't know that. That's your wish. We just as well may end up Nazis.
We don't know how the Revolution will finish off. Stormfront's 10 times the size of RevLeft. I don't think we'd win.
The Revolution is no sure thing.
Demogorgon
25th July 2009, 23:44
You don't know that. That's your wish. We just as well may end up Nazis.
We don't know how the Revolution will finish off. Stormfront's 10 times the size of RevLeft. I don't think we'd win.
The Revolution is no sure thing.
Neither Stormfront nor Revleft are exactly capturing the imagination of the majority of people, are they? The question isn't current support but potential future support.While the fact that racism creeps into a lot of people's thinking through anti-immigrant sentiment I really don't think anyone is going to be calling for a return to the Third Reich any time soon. Nor other forms of fascism for that matter. We focus on Germany mostly when talking about fascism for obvious reasons, but it was pretty out there even by fascist standards. If you look at the European fascist countries that had milder policies, stayed out of the war and lasted to the seventies, what you see is that society stagnated and people got utterly fed up. People talk about that happening in Eastern block countries too, but it was more pronounced in these cases, places like Portugal simply became stuck in time until the revolution in the mid seventies.
I don't see people being too keen on that. Progressive politics on the other hand has something to offer. I don't mean that telling people to repeat the Soviet Union is going to get many people excited. Nor for that matter is playing a lot of punk rock and saying "fuck the system". But I do think that a few more cycles of economic trouble and whatnot with no long term solution will persuade people that we need something better. It is troubling that despite the current economic crises, leftism has made gains in only a handful of places, Iceland for instance, but the frank truth is that in most places the left simply was not ready to offer an alternative. It may be that current activists never will be, but there is a need for something better than we have now and one will emerge, even if it needs new people with a rather more grown up attitude to achieve it.
The answer to the original question incidentally is that I have never fired a gun. Come to think of it I have had one pointed at me by an agent of the state though, but it really wasn't very exciting.
SocialPhilosophy
26th July 2009, 00:29
Neither Stormfront nor Revleft are exactly capturing the imagination of the majority of people, are they? The question isn't current support but potential future support.While the fact that racism creeps into a lot of people's thinking through anti-immigrant sentiment I really don't think anyone is going to be calling for a return to the Third Reich any time soon. Nor other forms of fascism for that matter. We focus on Germany mostly when talking about fascism for obvious reasons, but it was pretty out there even by fascist standards. If you look at the European fascist countries that had milder policies, stayed out of the war and lasted to the seventies, what you see is that society stagnated and people got utterly fed up. People talk about that happening in Eastern block countries too, but it was more pronounced in these cases, places like Portugal simply became stuck in time until the revolution in the mid seventies.
I don't see people being too keen on that. Progressive politics on the other hand has something to offer. I don't mean that telling people to repeat the Soviet Union is going to get many people excited. Nor for that matter is playing a lot of punk rock and saying "fuck the system". But I do think that a few more cycles of economic trouble and whatnot with no long term solution will persuade people that we need something better. It is troubling that despite the current economic crises, leftism has made gains in only a handful of places, Iceland for instance, but the frank truth is that in most places the left simply was not ready to offer an alternative. It may be that current activists never will be, but there is a need for something better than we have now and one will emerge, even if it needs new people with a rather more grown up attitude to achieve it.
The answer to the original question incidentally is that I have never fired a gun. Come to think of it I have had one pointed at me by an agent of the state though, but it really wasn't very exciting.
I agree with most of what you are saying, except the fact that people may never come to their senses about the massive flaw in the capitalist system on their own. the media just doesn't allow for any leeway for the socialist idea when "reporting" the news, and its even worse for televangelists like Jack Van Impe, who told me on tv that socialism was bad because Stalin was a mass murder (no joke.)
I say the revolution is going to be carried out by the majority of the people reaching new ways of thinking in the future, so that the political process will eventually enact a mandate that will legally transfer ownership of the industries to make them into public institutions.
That's called reformism.
This is Revleft.
A commenter above made the observation that guns are not needed and I think I mostly agree with that sentiment. A revolution of ideas is what will ultimately bring down the state.Yeah, all right comrade prachanda.
Have you even read about the history of the working class? Whenever we try to challenge capitalism, even peacefully, they send in the army and mow us down. I say fuck that. After all the crimes they have inflicted upon us and still do, we need to be shooting as many of those fuckers as possible, just like we did back in 1936.
I don't want to see anyone die at the hands of the capitalists due to them following a strategy of non violent resistance.
SocialPhilosophy
26th July 2009, 02:29
That's called reformism.
This is Revleft.
Yeah, all right comrade prachanda.
Have you even read about the history of the working class? Whenever we try to challenge capitalism, even peacefully, they send in the army and mow us down. I say fuck that. After all the crimes they have inflicted upon us and still do, we need to be shooting as many of those fuckers as possible, just like we did back in 1936.
I don't want to see anyone die at the hands of the capitalists due to them following a strategy of non violent resistance.
Persistence is key, no matter if it is violent or not.
ÑóẊîöʼn
26th July 2009, 02:46
The answer to the original question incidentally is that I have never fired a gun. Come to think of it I have had one pointed at me by an agent of the state though, but it really wasn't very exciting.
It never is, at least not in a good way. The point is to turn the tables so that they're at the business end of a rifle.
Dr Mindbender
29th July 2009, 17:00
When i was in the air cadets i fired a .22 lee enfield, L98 rifle (single shot version of the SA-80 with 20 round clip) and a double barrelled shotgun.
I earned a ATC class marksman badge (5 rounds within the space of a 50p coin from 20 yards)
Scary Monster
29th July 2009, 18:26
I have two uncles who are gun nuts (though not NEARLY as much as Bud :p). A few years ago when i was 18, we all went to an outdoor shooting range. I shot a scoped .22 bolt action rifle (hit a 10 foot high target on a hill from about 300 meters on my second shot). The dang recoil almost knocked me on my ass on my first shot because i didnt know what was comin! Ive also shot a 12 gauge shotgun, .45 and .50 magnum revolvers and a 9mm Glock. Id say im pretty accurate (though im a little slow reloading) with those guns, so much so that the dudes watchin me were quite suprised since i had never even touched a gun before then
Scary Monster
29th July 2009, 18:43
That's called reformism.
This is Revleft.
Yeah, all right comrade prachanda.
Have you even read about the history of the working class? Whenever we try to challenge capitalism, even peacefully, they send in the army and mow us down. I say fuck that. After all the crimes they have inflicted upon us and still do, we need to be shooting as many of those fuckers as possible, just like we did back in 1936.
I don't want to see anyone die at the hands of the capitalists due to them following a strategy of non violent resistance.
Like all the laborers and students in Africa, Asia and elsewhere, who peacefully protest against globalization (particularly against the world bank, the IMF and WTO) and get mowed down by the police/army.
*Red*Alert
29th July 2009, 19:42
Most recently sampled a 12-gauge shotgun firing two rounds into the air. :D
Ele'ill
31st July 2009, 18:26
I have fired many weapons.
People don't like killing and they don't like extremists. That's where the racist sediment ends. People like scape goats and they love to ***** and the working class has a lot to ***** about.
Steve_j
31st July 2009, 19:47
http://www.40cozy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/awesomeness.jpg
Me and my arsenal!
Axle
31st July 2009, 19:56
I've fired rifles ranging from a .22 to a .300 magnum, but I've never fired a shotgun or a handgun.
Bud Struggle
31st July 2009, 19:58
http://www.40cozy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/awesomeness.jpg
Me and my arsenal!
Do they all shoot blanks?
Pogue
31st July 2009, 20:02
http://www.40cozy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/awesomeness.jpg
Me and my arsenal!
thats not really you is it?
Steve_j
31st July 2009, 20:09
thats not really you is it?
Yeah why?
Pogue
31st July 2009, 20:11
security culture
Steve_j
31st July 2009, 20:22
i know dont worry, im just amusing myself :)
Bud Struggle
31st July 2009, 20:24
i know dont worry, im just amusing myself :)
:thumbup:
Pogue
31st July 2009, 20:25
i know dont worry, im just amusing myself :)
so its not you?
Bud Struggle
31st July 2009, 20:34
so its not you?
I got the idea that it was him and he could give a fuck about what anyone thinks.
Steve_j
31st July 2009, 20:58
No, no, not me, i have done some stupid things in my time but im not mad enought to post a picture of myself half naked with a bunch of guns on a public leftist revolutionary forum. That would be well, pretty inconceivable or so i thought. I supose some people would be that stupid. Anyway yeah, not me dont worry.
Bud Struggle
31st July 2009, 21:05
No, no, not me, i have done some stupid things in my time but im not mad enought to post a picture of myself half naked with a bunch of guns on a public leftist revolutionary forum. That would be well, pretty inconceivable or so i thought. I supose some people would be that stupid. Anyway yeah, not me dont worry.
DAMN, and all the women swiming in my local gater hole though you were kind of cute. :lol:
Welcome to Revleft anyway! :thumbup:
Steve_j
31st July 2009, 21:35
Cheers for the welcome :thumbup1:
Grey-Fox
1st August 2009, 05:31
I have shot a few guns, learned how to clean and take care of guns and equipment from hunters, a Vietnam Veteran, and from Ex-Navy.
Though I don't go shooting very often, I skirmish a lot with airsoft guns.
Lyev
1st August 2009, 13:37
I haven't fired a gun, I don't ever want to... why does change have to brought about through violence?
Pirate turtle the 11th
1st August 2009, 13:57
I haven't fired a gun, I don't ever want to... why does change have to brought about through violence?
Because if it isnt I will get bobkinddles to do you in.
Oh and yes I have fired shotguns in the seascouts.
Lyev
1st August 2009, 15:56
I will get bobkinddles to do you in.Who's bobkinddles? I don't really follow.
piet11111
3rd August 2009, 00:51
a 9mm handgun a .357 revolver and a .22 revolver and rifle.
nothing special but they all qualify for "real guns"
Bud Struggle
3rd August 2009, 00:58
Who's bobkinddles? I don't really follow.
A veddy veddy bad man. :(
scarletghoul
3rd August 2009, 01:04
What is the point in this thread?
What is the point in this thread?
To compare penis sizes, presumably.
Bud Struggle
3rd August 2009, 01:29
What is the point in this thread?
To show that the Bourgeoise are better trained and have more and better guns. :(
Killfacer
3rd August 2009, 01:33
I fired a shotgun once. To be honest this is pretty dependant on the gun laws of different countries.
Plagueround
3rd August 2009, 02:51
Yes. However, I do not own any firearms and am barred from purchasing any for the next two years. :blushing:
Il Medico
3rd August 2009, 03:45
I shoot guns all of the time. Part of my collection:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/949432332HeXvp5p.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/25897964gunwall_0408.jpg
And here's some buds from my country club getting ready for the "Revolutiuon!"
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/43925624multi_cam.jpg
My yacht club has some good arms, too. You can turn a cabin cruser into a missle launching gun ship in just a couple of hours. The plan is: the country clubs and the yacht clubs will control the east and west coasts of Florida. The anti-Fidel Cubans will get Miami and the rednecks (you don't even want to know!) will take over the interior.
All set for the Revoltion. Bring it on!:thumbup::redstar2000::thumbup:
You can bloody have Florida.
ellipsis
3rd August 2009, 04:43
I shoot guns all of the time. Part of my collection:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/949432332HeXvp5p.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/25897964gunwall_0408.jpg
And here's some buds from my country club getting ready for the "Revolutiuon!"
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/43925624multi_cam.jpg
I am surprised that no one has called out your airsoft bullshit. I am sure that you have two stens and three Russian or Japaneses SAWs in addition to the $10,000+ collection of assault rifles, short barreled rifles and m203 grenade launchers. For shame, posting fake gun pics and airsoft guns trying to pass them off as the real deal. Well I ain't buying it.
ellipsis
3rd August 2009, 04:44
and yes i have shot lots and lots of real guns, some in full auto.
RainbowLeftist
3rd August 2009, 06:05
I am surprised that no one has called out your airsoft bullshit. I am sure that you have two stens and three Russian or Japaneses SAWs in addition to the $10,000+ collection of assault rifles, short barreled rifles and m203 grenade launchers. For shame, posting fake gun pics and airsoft guns trying to pass them off as the real deal. Well I ain't buying it.
Well, thats more likely than him having the proper licensing from the ATF ofcourse.
Thanks for ruining the awesomeness.
danyboy27
3rd August 2009, 17:50
Well, thats more likely than him having the proper licensing from the ATF ofcourse.
Thanks for ruining the awesomeness.
lol who said he cared about the ATF laws?
Bud Struggle
3rd August 2009, 23:15
I am surprised that no one has called out your airsoft bullshit. I am sure that you have two stens and three Russian or Japaneses SAWs in addition to the $10,000+ collection of assault rifles, short barreled rifles and m203 grenade launchers. For shame, posting fake gun pics and airsoft guns trying to pass them off as the real deal. Well I ain't buying it.
We always practice with airsofts. Nothing wrong with that. Well use the real thing when the Proletarians come a' knocking. :D As far as the ATF goes--where do you think we get the guns from? ;)
Manifesto
4th August 2009, 03:47
We always practice with airsofts. Nothing wrong with that.
Actually where I live you cannot fire an airsoft gun off of your property or else it is illegal.
ThorsMitersaw
4th August 2009, 05:16
Actually where I live you cannot fire an airsoft gun off of your property or else it is illegal.
that sucks.
piet11111
4th August 2009, 12:26
Actually where I live you cannot fire an airsoft gun off of your property or else it is illegal.
here airsoft is also illegal but it is legal to own an airrifle i have a HW50s not dangerous in any way but a lot of fun.
http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/store/images/uploads/WeihrauchHW50.jpg
synthesis
4th August 2009, 12:50
I shoot guns all of the time. Part of my collection:
If I were to quantify the amount of respect I lost for you with this post, it would be so large that Carl Sagan would rise from the dead, simultaneously shit and jizz his pants, then die again from astonishment.
In any case, I think the original question was a bit silly. Just because you've shot a clay disk with a Mossberg doesn't mean you're gonna be worth shit when it's go-time.
The real question is: How many people have stared down the barrel of a loaded gun, held by someone who doesn't give a shit whether you live or die? Or been shot at?
That's what I want to know. But this is the internet - no shortage of e-gangsters in sight.
synthesis
4th August 2009, 12:54
Why are you even asking this?
Sounds like some misogynistic bullshit question.
Err... he asks who has fired a gun, and you call him misogynist? That sounds pretty sexist to me. I didn't realize that you need a dick to shoot a gun.
Forward Union
4th August 2009, 23:28
Im curious.
For the record, a gun is a weapon that is either attached to the ground, a fixture, or is on wheels.
Anything else is a rifle or hang-gun.
So probably no one here has fired a "gun"
Bud Struggle
4th August 2009, 23:50
If I were to quantify the amount of respect I lost for you with this post, it would be so large that Carl Sagan would rise from the dead, simultaneously shit and jizz his pants, then die again from astonishment.
You HAD respect fo me!?!??! Sorry I didn't notice. Hopefully I can regain your confidence and attain the hand of your daughter once again.:tt1:
Havet
4th August 2009, 23:54
For the record, a gun is a weapon that is either attached to the ground, a fixture, or is on wheels.
Anything else is a rifle or hang-gun.
So probably no one here has fired a "gun"
In military parlance, a gun is a muzzle or breech-loaded projectile-firing weapon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon). There are various definitions depending on the nation and branch of service. A "gun" may be distinguised from other firearms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm) in being a crew served weapon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crew_served_weapon) such as a howitzer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howitzer) or mortar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortar), as opposed to a small arm like a rifle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifle) or pistol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol), but there are exceptions, such as the USAF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USAF)'s GUU5/P (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAR-15#GUU-5.2FP). At one time, Land-based Artillery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery) tubes were called Cannon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon) and Sea-based Naval Cannon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon) were called Guns. The term "gun" morphed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morph) into a generic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic) term for any tube launched projectile firing weapon used by sailors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailor) including boarding parties (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boarding_parties) and Marines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_%28military%29).
In modern parlance, a gun is a projectile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projectile) weapon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon) using a hollow, tubular barrel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_barrel) with a closed end—the breech—as the means for directing the projectile as well as other purposes—an expansion chamber for propellant, stabilizing the projectile's trajectory, aiming, etc.—and assumes a generally, flat trajectory for the projectile.
Hope this helped to clear any issue with semantics
robbo203
5th August 2009, 19:12
Im curious.
What the hell has revolution got to do with firing a gun? All revolution means is changing the basis of society
Coggeh
7th August 2009, 14:44
What the hell has revolution got to do with firing a gun? All revolution means is changing the basis of society
People just want an excuse to fulfill fetish fantasies of masculinity (which in this case is firing a gun at random things) by saying its revolutionary .Personally I think its aborable :o
piet11111
7th August 2009, 23:17
People just want an excuse to fulfill fetish fantasies of masculinity (which in this case is firing a gun at random things) by saying its revolutionary .Personally I think its aborable :o
cant a guy just enjoy shooting random stuff drinking a few beers with friends ?
deLarge
7th August 2009, 23:25
Maybe I'm just a redneck, but I thought that firing a pump-action bb gun was something everyone did as a kid...
But yeah, I've fired a gun before. I'm not good with names (brands in general, gun or not), but I've fired a 30-30 handgun, several 22 rifles, pellet guns, etc. Though the targets consisted of rabbits, crows and pop-cans :lol:
Rosa Provokateur
7th August 2009, 23:25
Used to screw around with my mom's .22 when I was a kid if that counts for anything. Shot coffee-cans and stuff, nothing to write home about.
Plagueround
10th August 2009, 05:15
You HAD respect fo me!?!??! Sorry I didn't notice. Hopefully I can regain your confidence and attain the hand of your daughter once again.:tt1:
Many people on this site had respect for you at one point. It was right after you stopped being a pompous right wing jackass and right before you decided to dismiss everyone on this site as a unified, out of touch, Stalinist clique. I like to refer to it as the "Use of Tom's brain" period.
shadowmare
10th August 2009, 06:06
I was a member of the Canadian reserves during my last year of School for Co-op
I fired a Desert Eagle on several occasions as well as the (Revolutionary) stereotype AK-47
Both at the shooting range
RotStern
10th August 2009, 07:00
Yes. Most of us have. Big deal. This has no importance what-so-ever.
☭World Views
11th August 2009, 13:29
For home defense I have Mossberg 930 SPX 8 shot.
00 Federal Tactical Buckshot and 3" Magnum Slugs
SocialPhilosophy
11th August 2009, 13:46
For the record, a gun is a weapon that is either attached to the ground, a fixture, or is on wheels.
Anything else is a rifle or hang-gun.
So probably no one here has fired a "gun"
fuckyeah Semantics. Its funny how Nearly everyone that has posted on here knew what i meant. :glare:
SocialPhilosophy
11th August 2009, 13:47
Mydeargodinheaven. the purpose of this thread was to determine if anyone had been taught how and why to use a FIREARM, not a mortar or a fucking howitzer. Guns have a specific role in society, as they level the playing field, from the robbery situations to full scale revolution. capitalists arent going to say "hmm, lets supress a rebellion with STICKS and stones." They will retain power with the easiest means possible. probably the military, and local PD. and they ARE armed. to simply ignore guns, and hope you can pull success out of your ass, is about as likley as them just giving up power.
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