Bay Area National Anarchists

[War Cry]

First question,
What the hell?

Second question,
What's the appropriate response to such nonsense?

I don't have enough posts to post a link, but they've got a website if you Google them.

[abbielives!]

here is the website:
http://www.bayareanationalanarchists.com/blog/

[h0m0revolutionary]

Ah ignore them, and if you do come accross them, forget the anarcho bit, treat them as you would any other fascist.

[nuisance]

Ah ignore them, and if you do come accross them, forget the anarcho bit, treat them as you would any other fascist.
I wouldn't ignore them, by any means. They should have been stamped out as soon as they raised their heads, opposed to letting them get cocky enough to do anything in public.

[Chow Foo]

national 'anarchist' .. lmao... Anarchists are internationalist..

[Skin_HeadBanger]

The only thing I disagree with in here is the "ignore them" part. I've heard a few people were calling themselves NA in my area... time for some investigation.

[StalinFanboy]

There's also a chapter that sprung up in Sacramento.


We have plans for them.

[Rjevan]

To the first question: Some idiots who think they are badass and that it's a great idea to copy the idea socialism + nazism (Strasserism, National Bolshevism) just that it's anarchism + nazism.
They march together with the NPD here, our nazi party number one and think it is clever to wear Che-shirts and wave banners with "Capitalism kills" while promoting nazi propaganda and setting up a "facist action" instead of the "anti-fascist action"...
http://www.bfz-hildesheim.net/bilder/xafa.gif

To the second question: Well, I guess if I tell you my opinion about an appropriate answer to them (and "left nazis") I will get prosecuted by the police. ;)

[Red Apex]

To the first question:
I have no clue, but they seem to be popping up everywhere! There is a african-American national "anarchist" group in the town next to me. A bunch of imigrants from china have been moving to there city and this has started a lot of african-americans from attacking their businesses. Something needs to be done with them, but what these poor people are being attacked just because they are asain!


Answer to the second question,
any means necessary

[Boatman]

You guys really need to learn your political history the concepts of national anarchy (usually syndacalism) go back to the 1920's. Strong in Russia and Spain especially the Basque region where Mondragon was established amongst others.

[Pia Fidelis]

the concepts of national anarchy (usually syndacalism)

Please explain what you mean by this. Syndicalism and Anarchy are in separate spheres all together.

[PeoplePowerMom]

To the first question:
I have no clue, but they seem to be popping up everywhere! There is a african-American national "anarchist" group in the town next to me. A bunch of imigrants from china have been moving to there city and this has started a lot of african-americans from attacking their businesses. Something needs to be done with them, but what these poor people are being attacked just because they are asain!


Answer to the second question,
any means necessary

It sounds to me like "Anarchist" is the new term for "ignorant facist"
Semantics, a rose by any other name is still a rose.

[Boatman]

No they are not, there is roughly speaking Anarcho communism and Anarcho sydicalism they are the two strands but the Anarcho communists were historically the larger group and tried to take the term Anarchist solely for themselves but it is not so, take a look at the Spanish Civil war CNT and FAI FIJL but its 1.30 am so I'm off to bed now that you've got some homework

[An archist]

You guys really need to learn your political history the concepts of national anarchy (usually syndacalism) go back to the 1920's. Strong in Russia and Spain especially the Basque region where Mondragon was established amongst others.

I smell a fash.

[Pia Fidelis]

CNT and FAI FIJL

Thank you, but I am very well read on the subject. Neither of those have any Syndicalist tendencies. Please take some time to clarify what you mean.

[The Ungovernable Farce]

Thank you, but I am very well read on the subject. Neither of those have any Syndicalist tendencies. Please take some time to clarify what you mean.
What? :confused: Are you trying to say the CNT weren't syndicalist?

[Pia Fidelis]

What? :confused: Are you trying to say the CNT weren't syndicalist?

They started in theory to be, but quickly disassociated themselves from the integral themes of Structural Marxism. It is fair to say that there never has really been a fully Syndicalist movement though.

I had more sympathies with the CNT when I was younger and did not understand the doctrine as well as I do now.

[redSHARP]

the only thing i disagree with in here is the "ignore them" part. I've heard a few people were calling themselves na in my area... Time for some investigation.


shit really?!! Fuck!

[Pogue]

They started in theory to be, but quickly disassociated themselves from the integral themes of Structural Marxism. It is fair to say that there never has really been a fully Syndicalist movement though.

I had more sympathies with the CNT when I was younger and did not understand the doctrine as well as I do now.

What are you talking about? The CNT were anarcho-syndicalist and still are.

[Die Rote Fahne]

When you think of Ingsoc from George Orwell's "1984" you can see the mixed policies, or Syncretic ideology, held by the party.

To call ones self an "Anarchist" and a "Nationalist" is just bullshit.

[JimmyJazz]

A few BANA members are popular posters on Stormfront.

Here's one of their youtube channels, they post videos of themselves distributing homophobic propaganda, explaining their "philosophy", etc:

http://www.youtube.com/user/BANA0907

Don't ask me why I know so much, I just found them really bizarre and fascinating when I first learned about them.

[RedBlackFreedom]

There are a lot of other idiots like that who mix up things just to "cover" there fascist face.
You just have to look at YouTube, there are people like "Volksgermane" who combines the coat of arms of the gdr with the nazi eagle...
I think you shouldn't complete ignore them 'cause they are going for example to anti globalization protests and call them self "the real left-wing". And a lot of people who don't like to think a bit, could get wrong opinion...

[AntifaAustralia]

We have NAs in Australia, they've shown up to anti-globalisation protests in black hoods, and face masks. They even showed up to an Anti-chinese government protest in canberra in support of the TIBETAN PEOPLE! FARK! and there were tibetans with no fucking clue that they were racist NAZIS! one guy even held a NA banner with them.:scared:

The best way to fuk them up is to link them to Nazism, hitler, white supremacy and the NEW RIGHT MOVEMENT. Also oppose Nationalism outright.

Best of luck to you fellows in the States. YOUR anti-fascist aussie brother!!!

[Red Apex]

They are just scared, they know our images and truth works, so they have to act like us to even get anywhere, pathetic really. What they really want doesn't appeal to anyone so they have to try and ruin us...

[Fietsketting]

We have NAs in Australia, they've shown up to anti-globalisation protests in black hoods, and face masks.

Tough to spot 'em. I somewhat can see whom they are here in europe due to the fact there black block clothing is too 'shiney', too new.. like they bought em the day before ;)

[Psych0]

National Anarchists
they are stupid assholes! These idiots have appeared in Russia:glare:

[Rjevan]

they are stupid assholes! These idiots have appeared in Russia:glare:
Are they allied/working together with the Nazbol or are they independent?
Btw, welcome to the forum! :)

[Durruti's Ghost]

There are two NAs at my university, and both are also founding members of the local chapter of pro-capitalist, anti-immigrant organization called "Youth for Western Civilization".

So far, I've only met one other genuine revolutionary leftist. :crying:

[Psych0]

Are they allied/working together with the Nazbol or are they independent?
they are not relevant to NBP (Nazbol's). but they like the NBP are full of shit:lol:

Btw, welcome to the forum! :)
thx, comrade:star:

[AntifaAustralia]

Comrades it is totally ineffective to simply attack them with cheap shots, we must be thorough in burying them 6 feet deep in dirt.

I';ve realised the the National anarchists are inclusive of other races and ethnicites, BUT! they advocate the preservation of A race/ethnicity and a nation! The NA in australia want to segregate the people based on colour.

The NA apparently follow teachings of Malcom X, the muslim african-american black nationalist, and other nationalists and anarchists. NA believe in National Liberation, somewhat justifiable for some movement s agaisnt opression eg. ireland's IRA, palestine's PLO, But Democratic National liberation for a 1st world Nation? or a Majority NON oppressed population? WTF! They see opression as the White Race being destroyed (assimilated with blacks, yellow, into brown).

SO NA is a bunch of Bastards that advocate Racial separatism and are clearly seriously anxious xenophobics. In a way NA are Right wing conservatives (for cultural and racial preservation), they are no way left at all.

An enemy of a Nationalist Anrachist is a person that:
Doesn't beleive in Race theory, or white/black races (humanist)
Wants to eleiminate culture (maoism and cultural revolution)
advocates Internationalism
is A communist
believe in equal Human rights

[Holden Caulfield]

Malcom X realised the errors of his old ideas and was shot because of it