Cuban music

[Zombie]

Anybody into it? I heard it's pretty slow stuff.. does anyone have recommendations?

[Soul Rebel]

i really like cuban music. im mostly into classic rock and stuff like that, but i enjoy spanish music as well. of the genre- cuban music is one of my favs. its really groovy stuff- it has a lot of feeling. If you can sit still without the want to dance there is something wrong with you. Zombie, if i can learn how to download my music i will send you some cuban music, cds i actually bought in cuba.

[SlimJin]

I Love Cuban Jazz, I suggest Ibrahim Ferrir or Cachao if you download music then you should get Almendra and La Rumba Buena by the Buena Vista Social Club, Marieta by Ibrahim Ferrir theres a little bit of what I like. If you're downloading your best bet is to just look around;)

[Red Comrade]

I'm not really into Spanish music, but you should check out Silvio Rodriguez. He does a song about Che too.

[Danton]

It all starts with Lecuona, then you got Beny More, Celia Cruz, Trio Matamoros etc....through the son and salsa of BVSC & Los Van Van the latin funk of Groupo Irakere, Santeria influenced bands like Changui de Guantanamo, right through to present day Hip Hop inspired Orishas and folksy Yusa - Cuban music is more than just one genre and it is thriving and continues to influence other artists all over the world....


"Creemos en la musica Cubana y en la revolucion"

[Rastafari]

For my opinion, Just read SenoraChe's and put the words "and Reggae" next to classic rock. I could have hardly said it better myself :)

[Danton]

Hold up! I took Rastafari's advice and re-read Senorache's post. Gallegita, did you really say that Cuban music is part of a Spanish music genre? Or did you just mean Spanish language music - I hope so. Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican..music long overtook Spanish music. Though I still love my flamenco......
BTW did you know that most of Cuba's spanish blood is also Galician.


"Espana Espana, Aznar es una Arana" - Cubans protest agianst the Fuhercito bigotico

[Soul Rebel]

Dante- thats what i meant: spanish speaking. i would never classify it as "spanish" from spain- totally different things.

Of course i know about los gallegos in cuba- it is my history :) Galicia is where Castros family originates from. When i was in cuba all the buildings that i saw were basically built by them and they are helping the gov. with its beautification projects. They also influenced its medical system. But anyways... yeah... Gallegos left spain in masses for cuba and they are still down there. There is also a large quantity of them in Venezuela and Argentina. I have family and friends from galicia who are all over :)

By the way i like your thing about Aznar- i cannot stand the man. I think he makes spain look horrible, which it is not. When i get back to spain this month i will have to deal with it just like i dealt with bush here.

[Rastafari]

he's still alive, so obviously you didn't do what you should have :)

[Danton]

What made me laugh was when Fidel compared him to Franco and said it was a relief that diplomatic relations were being broken. They are putting a statue of Lorca right outside the Spanish Embassy in Havana - Fidel said "If they dont like it they can leave or move somewhere else" - he is hilarious. Will be in Alicante myself this month, dont worry Aznar wont last....




"CREEMOS EN FIDEL Y EN LA REVOLUCION"

[Soul Rebel]

Quote: from Rastafari on 5:20 pm on July 3, 2003
he's still alive, so obviously you didn't do what you should have :)



I didnt mean to kill the man!!!! I just meant put up with his shit and that i will cause a bunch of choas if possible :)

Danton- thats funny about the spanish embassey. I can see the comparison of Franco and Aznar, but not completely. I dislike Aznar a lot, but he definitely not on the same scale as Franco. Seriously, i think Galicia produces leaders like crazy- Franco is from Ferrol (where my uncle lived at one point), which is in Galicia. I hope your right- that he wont last longer. He has done no good for the spanish people, who dislike him. The spanish people were against the war, but yet he decided to help by sending medical aid. He just screws up everything.

(Edited by SenoraChe at 5:46 pm on July 3, 2003)


(Edited by SenoraChe at 5:49 pm on July 3, 2003)

[Sabocat]

Quote: from Zombie on 4:30 pm on July 1, 2003
Anybody into it? I heard it's pretty slow stuff.. does anyone have recommendations?


Check out Zafra's album Caliente: Musica Cubana. It's pretty good stuff. Fun music. If you want the album, I have it all ripped into a nice tidy mp3 file. Just PM me with your email address and I'll send it to you.

[El Brujo]

Guantanamera. Nuff said :)

"Will be in Alicante myself this month, dont worry Aznar wont last.... "

My father's side of the family is from Alicante (the town called Catral). Where in Alicante are you going?

And yes, Aznar is a traitor and a puppet of the yanks and the zionists. 90% of the populace hates him after his support for the war so hopefully he will be out soon.

[Felicia]

I haven't listened to any Cuban music specifically, but I've heard some. A mix of spanish rythum, african beats and creole flavour........ nice sounds :)
I've only heard instrumental stuff

(Edited by felicia at 7:26 pm on July 3, 2003)

[Danton]

El Brujo, Elda, Santa pola y la isla Tabarca..

[Rastafari]

Guantanamera is cool. Good swimming pool music, good for anything!

[Red Comrade]

Aznar is trash. I think that he deserves a severe beating for supporting the United States imperialist war. I hope he gets thrown out and I hope he is never able to do anything political again!

By the way my family descends from Spain as well, but I don't really know where because whenever I ask my mom she says she's "from Uruguay, nothing else" or my dad says the same about Argentina (and my parent's are right, it's kind of annoying when people compare their ancestry).

[Soul Rebel]

Red Comrade- where do you live?

My parents are fresh off the boat from spain- came here in 78. They hate it here and want to move back to spain. i will be going too because it is my real home.

I know what you mean about the ancestry thing. I just argued with someone about that on wednesday. They were saying that they were like 50 percent of this, 25 percent of that, 10 percent of something else, and so on. I told them that they were american and they insisted that no they werent. I said yes that they were because they were born and raised in the us and know nothing else. Just because your family comes from somewhere it doesnt automatically make you that.

[Red Comrade]

I'm in New York city. I too was born in the United States, and I am forced to shamefully say that I am an American. But I do not pull that "oh but I'm 20% this and that bla bla". My mom caught my uncle saying that trash the other day and she yelled at him; simply because it's "cooler" to be from Europe. I personally find Europe disgusting, they are like a reflection of the United States. I like Spain though, the people there seem to be very political (people in Argentina are the same) and don't stand for any shit.

[Soul Rebel]

I feel ya RC. I was born in the US, but say i am from spain. I have spanish citizenship, plus i have never felt american a day in my life. I dont share the same views, language, culture, food, music, etc.

Seriously though, spain is awesome. The people are amazing- they are as kind as can be, are hospitable, helpful, caring, laidback, are less self-involved, dont consider material possession as important, and they are extremely political. When people think of spain they think of conservative people, but that couldnt be farther from the truth. The people there are more open to ideas and different lifestyles, whereas the people in the U.S. arent. For example- bars. The U.S. has seperate clubs for gays and straights, whereas in spain everyone has fun together. They dont care about that shit- to them you are who you are and they accept that. Had it not been for my family and spanish background i dont think i would have the political views i have.

[El Brujo]

Yeah, I could also say Im part French and Italian but there's no point because they are my great great grandparents or something of that sort. Luckly I was actually born in Argentina (and I still feel 100% Argentine though Ive lived here almost all my life) and I also have Spanish citizenship because my father was born in Spain so I could say Im both.

I go to Spain every 3 or 4 years and always have a good time. Not surprisingly, I have more in common with my cousins over there than my cousins over here. :biggrin:

[Soul Rebel]

what part of spain? when was the last time you went?

[El Brujo]

Quote: from SenoraChe on 11:30 am on July 8, 2003
what part of spain? when was the last time you went?

Alicante. That is where most my family from my father's side lives but I also have an uncle, aunt and cousin in Madrid.

I went there a year ago.

(Edited by El Brujo at 1:20 pm on July 8, 2003)

[Danton]

I'm sat in a cafe waiting for the Shepards bush Empire box office to open, Getting some tickets for Los Van Van the 20 strong Cuban supergroup playing here on saturday, we were talking about Cuban music right? Just thought I'd show off.....

Senora che, your comments about Spain....generally your spot - on but lest we forget there are many arsehole's in Spain and a significant amount of right-wingers......Franco's generation, and they still weild huge power within the political system - as does the church.......



"Espana, Espana Aznar es una arana"

[Soul Rebel]

Danton- you are correct, however rightwingers are unfortunately found everywhere. I dont think the church has that much influence however. It has some influence, but not the amount that we think it does. Its very different then we believe it to be. Overall though I just wanted to point out how it has changed, thats all.

[Danton]

This is a shame.......rest in peace Compay....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/m...sic/3064557.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3064557.stm)


"Creemos en Fidel y en la musica Cubana"

[Rastafari]

I just read about Segundo and came here to let you all know the same... very sorry to hear it, but I guess it was his time

[mentalbunny]

Um I know this isn't exactly Cuban music but it's connected. I assume you know who Carlos Acosta is, I only heard about him a few days ago thanks to a documentary on tv, he's a ballet dancer by the way, and he's produced this entire show combining ballet and cuban culture, it looks awesome and it's on in London at the mo, or soon anyway, so I might go see it. Castro came to the first night in Havana and they met, Carlos seems pretty pro-Castro which is awesome but they didn't really talk about that in the documentary.

Danton, please can you give me a short-ish list (10 max) of CD's I should own by Cuban artists, all genres appreciated. This is something I really want to get into!

Rest in Peace Segundo, he was pretty old, wasn't he? Impressive life.

[Danton]

Mentalbunny...always a pleasure..

"Tocororo" is the play you mentioned - it starts tomorrow and ends on the 26th, at Sadlers wells - looks good...I have to run right now but will have list for you tomorrow....

[mentalbunny]

I'm going to Torocoro on saturday, I wanted to go on thursday cos Carlos is doing a post performance talk but there were hardly any seats left, only individual ones and I would have been going with my mum, but now I'm going with my dad (all very complicated and irrelevant). Anyway I'm really excited, should be awesome.

Looking forward to that list Danton, thanks loads.

[Danton]

Your welcome,

There is a w/wide renaissance of Cuban music/arts so this is a good time to get involved....probably best to start with "the now"....

Orishas - "Emigrante" - simply the best album I've heard this year.

Ibrahim Ferrer - "Buenos Hermanos" - Old maestro updates "Son" tradition...

Yusa - "Chiquichaca" - Brazilian influenced, folksy Cuban jazz.....

Orlando Cachaito Lopez - "Cachaito" - Cuban "Son" meets dub reggae, Buena Vista's virtuoso bass player..

The Buena Vista social club album is essential, as is the documentry..... and any Che fan should have a copy of Carlos Puebla's - "Hasta siempre Commandante"

Afro Cuban music goes back to as early as the 1550's and a slave song called "Ma Teodora" - I'ts African heritage goes back to the origins of man, Santeria/Yoruba chants and rhythms from thousands of years ago are still a big influence on the myriad music and culture of Cuba....but that's another thread.....

You should'nt have difficulty tracking down the albums I mentioned above but if you were digging further I would suggest compliations are easier to find than original releases.... Look out for the following names...

Beny More, Ernesto Leuona, Perez Prado, Cachao, Los Van Van, Celia Cruz, etc.... *deep breath* That should do for now, If your in London a good shop is Mr Bongo (upstairs) otherwise hit the world music sections....

Hope this is of use and enjoy the show!...


"!Socialismo con Charanga!"

[mentalbunny]

Thanks Danton, I'll look out for those names!