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Guerrilla22
22nd July 2009, 09:02
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090721/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_brazil_israel

SAO PAULO – Israel's foreign minister ran into controversy on the first day of a Latin American trip Tuesday when an official of Brazil's ruling party reportedly called him a "fascist."
Israel's Haaretz newspaper reported that Valter Pomar, secretary of international relations for the Workers Party, said that Avigdor "Lieberman is a racist and a fascist" during an interview.
Haaretz reported that Pomar also said that "the Brazilian left is organizing protests" against Lieberman "and against the policy he represents."
The left-leaning Workers Party has long been sharply critical of Israel's policies toward Palestinians, and Lieberman has advocated a tough line on Israel's Arab minority.

He has suggested redrawing Israel's borders to push areas with heavy concentrations of its Arab citizens outside the country and under Palestinian jurisdiction, while requiring those who remain to sign an oath of loyalty to the Jewish state. Some 20 percent of Israel's 7 million citizens are Arabs.

Lieberman's 10-day trip is meant to battle growing Iranian influence in the region and to push trade. He is expected to meet with Brazil's President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva — a founder of the Workers Party — on Wednesday.

Pomar was traveling and unavailable for comment, a party spokeswoman said. She declined to comment on the Haaretz report.
A spokeswoman for Silva said Pomar's words "were just his own opinion and have nothing to do with the government. In fact, they were quite rude." She spoke on condition of anonymity, citing department rules.
Iran's ambassador to Brazil, Moshen Shaterzadeh, said Monday that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will also visit Brazil. He didn't give a date.

Lieberman was meeting with an industry group, leaders of the local Jewish community and the governor of Sao Paulo state on Tuesday.
He also has planned stops in Argentina, Peru and Colombia, but is bypassing the South American nations most closely allied with Iran — Venezuela and Bolivia.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and Bolivian President Evo Morales are strong supporters of Ahmadinejad and have solidified links with Tehran through trade deals.
Both countries broke off ties with Israel in January to protest a military offensive in the Gaza Strip.
Dorit Shavit, a top Israeli diplomat for Latin America, told the Colombian newspaper El Tiempo that Hezbollah cells are operating on Venezuela's Margarita Island and along the Venezuelan-Colombian border.
"There are many mosques that serve not only as places of worship, but also to collect money that's sent to the Middle East," she was quoted as saying in an interview published Sunday.
In a statement on Tuesday, Venezuela's Foreign Ministry called those allegations "ridiculous."

President Hugo Chavez, meanwhile, complained that the allegations — combined with a recent U.S. congressional report criticizing Venezuela's anti-drug efforts, and Colombia's decision to allow the U.S. to expand its military presence in that country — constitute "aggression."
"It's an attack formation against Venezuela," Chavez said.

Hoggy_RS
22nd July 2009, 11:51
Fair play to him.

ElChe91
22nd July 2009, 13:11
If I had a hat I would take it off to him

Yehuda Stern
23rd July 2009, 08:20
Is this really that controversial? Even many Israelis think that Lieberman is a racist and a fascist. Does Pomar think that any Zionist politician is better than him? They may speak differently, but they all support the colonialist and oppressive politics of the Zionist state.

narcomprom
23rd July 2009, 18:16
It's like saying that Hitler, in fact, might have been a nazi. I disagree here with Yehuda - we should draw a line between common conservative bigots and outright fascists. The first, in the case of Israel, at least do not intend to strip Israeli non-jews of their bloody citizenship or it to evict them from Israel while that is exactly what Liberman's Yisrael Beintenu quite openly demands.

Guerrilla22
24th July 2009, 00:24
Is this really that controversial? Even many Israelis think that Lieberman is a racist and a fascist.


So Pomar really wasn't embellishing he made that comment.

Hoggy_RS
24th July 2009, 10:49
Is this really that controversial? Even many Israelis think that Lieberman is a racist and a fascist. Does Pomar think that any Zionist politician is better than him? They may speak differently, but they all support the colonialist and oppressive politics of the Zionist state.
Its controversial in that here in Ireland(or in most other countries in Europe), no government minister would dare speak out against Israel lest they be branded anti-semitic. This guy had alot of balls and I respect that!

Yehuda Stern
24th July 2009, 12:57
I disagree here with Yehuda - we should draw a line between common conservative bigots and outright fascists. The first, in the case of Israel, at least do not intend to strip Israeli non-jews of their bloody citizenship or it to evict them from Israel while that is exactly what Liberman's Yisrael Beintenu quite openly demands.

You're wrong - Lieberman and his gang talk the talk, but the other Zionists who have been in power for decades walk the walk. You are blinded by Zionism's propaganda machine into believing that other Zionist parties are very liberal; they are not. Nor do I think, by the way, that Lieberman is a fascist. He is a common, although very reactionary, bourgeois Zionist politician.


Its controversial in that here in Ireland(or in most other countries in Europe), no government minister would dare speak out against Israel lest they be branded anti-semitic. This guy had alot of balls and I respect that!

Because they are pro-Zionists and cowards. But that one isn't a coward doesn't make him brave (as you attempted to claim with your lovely chauvinist metaphor).