Green Anarchy?

[originofopinion]

How does Green Anarchy work? Who controls if someone is abusing the system or the environment. Because anarchy has no authority?

I'm for Green Anarchism, but this is a good question still. :confused:

[originofopinion]

Any One Answer, Please>?

[EqualityandFreedom]

I don't know that much about green anarchism either, other than many if not most green anarchists are primitivists (or at least against industrialisation) and would probably be restricted here.

[Revy]

Pollution affects everyone negatively. Therefore if someone is polluting they are not engaging in a consensual, free activity and would be disciplined by the community, probably.

EqualityandFreedom, I don't think many or most green anarchists are primitivists, that's a misconception. Some primitivists may pepper their ideology with "green" statements but I really don't see any tangible connection.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

I agree with Stencil. Some Green 'Anarchists' are primitivists but not the majority. I agree with Green Anarchism as long as it is told from a class struggle perspective.

[Misanthrope]

You are free to form collectives in Anarchism. A green anarchist collective would be certainly possible. Say fishing is a major source of food in your collective, you could certainly own a lake and for others to use the collective's property they would have to agree to the "green" policies in regards to the lake. It is voluntary association and justified property ownership.

[War Cry]

I would hope that in an anarchist society, people would have the forethought to realize that if you abuse the environment, you're killing yourself and your community. We won't survive as a species if we don't reign in the consumerism and production. When the last Tuffula tree falls, that's it.

[yuon]

"Green anarchism" is merely anarchism with an environmental focus.

There are two ways I can just think of now for environmental damage to be prevented in an anarchist society. One is to have the environment given high priority from childhood, and thus no one thinks to damage it. The other is for that the community gives high priority to the environment, and because the community "owns" the land, etc. they prevent damage to it by preventing people from damaging it.

If you know what I mean.

[Ovi]

Pollution itself is caused by centralization of power; anarchy is green by itself because damaging the environment means harming everyone's health. How to prevent abuse? This is the same question as why would anyone work in communism if everything is free, ...

[Shin Honyong]

Social ecology is one form of green anarchism that is not primitivist.

[Black Sheep]

All those derivatives of anarchism are pathetic.Green anarchism? What the fuck?

Ecology and enviromentalism are included in socialist & communist economies and are obsolete to mention alongside 'anarchism'. For fuck's sake. :cursing:

Just like anarcho-feminism, queer anarchism and such.

All that are trends and constitute lifestyle anarchism as a whole.

[yuon]

All those derivatives of anarchism are pathetic.Green anarchism? What the fuck?

Ecology and enviromentalism are included in socialist & communist economies and are obsolete to mention alongside 'anarchism'. For fuck's sake. :cursing:

Just like anarcho-feminism, queer anarchism and such.

All that are trends and constitute lifestyle anarchism as a whole.
You know, I find it quite strange that you would condemn green anarchism, anarcho-feminism and queer anarchism ("and such") as "lifestyle anarchism", and obviously something to be frowned upon and rejected.

I personally agree that equality regardless of gender and sexual identity is an essential part of anarchism, and as such, shouldn't really need to be expressed separately.

I also think that "environment" and the protection there of, is also part and parcel of anarchism (though I know not everyone agrees).

But, I don't go around saying that people shouldn't focus on this issues in their everyday struggle. It's not all about class.

For some people, being a women, or being queer (or both) (or being "not-white"), is more important than being a "worker" (perhaps they aren't a worker, perhaps they are a self-employed worker, or maybe a member of the so called "lumpen-proletariat"). For those people, the focus on such issues, and the lack of focus from certain "class war" anarchists requires a certain separation.

I'm obviously not going to find agreement, but still.

A focus on the environmental problems caused by capitalism, and/or a desire for a future anarchist society to be "eco-friendly" isn't something to be condemned. It is certainly possible for future societies to destroy eco-systems, just as it is possible (and likely) for capitalism to do so.

[Ovi]

You know, I find it quite strange that you would condemn green anarchism, anarcho-feminism and queer anarchism ("and such") as "lifestyle anarchism", and obviously something to be frowned upon and rejected.

I personally agree that equality regardless of gender and sexual identity is an essential part of anarchism, and as such, shouldn't really need to be expressed separately.

I also think that "environment" and the protection there of, is also part and parcel of anarchism (though I know not everyone agrees).

But, I don't go around saying that people shouldn't focus on this issues in their everyday struggle. It's not all about class.

For some people, being a women, or being queer (or both) (or being "not-white"), is more important than being a "worker" (perhaps they aren't a worker, perhaps they are a self-employed worker, or maybe a member of the so called "lumpen-proletariat"). For those people, the focus on such issues, and the lack of focus from certain "class war" anarchists requires a certain separation.

I'm obviously not going to find agreement, but still.

A focus on the environmental problems caused by capitalism, and/or a desire for a future anarchist society to be "eco-friendly" isn't something to be condemned. It is certainly possible for future societies to destroy eco-systems, just as it is possible (and likely) for capitalism to do so.
Nobody is rejecting them because they are part of anarchism. It's silly to say green anarchy because anarchy is green by itself.