Your sources for news

[Robert]

Only eight (8!)% of the U.S. public has confidence in the news they get from the mainstream media. A defender of modern journalists, himself a journalist from the NY Times, was saying today that there are more talented and competent journalists now than ever, and that if you can't find a source of news you trust, you aren't looking hard enough. I believe this.

So I don't understand that 8% number. They are all biased, of course, but CNN is not going to invent (or cover up) a story about, say, Chinese spies in the Obama administration or the bribery of a Senator, because they know their competitors are watching them. They have a financial incentive in "getting it right."

I can't think of too many stories from any major news outlet that were so demonstrably false that I would never trust that outlet again.

On the other hand, maybe it's all just show biz, and reporters will say whatever their particular audience wants to hear (Fox plays to conservatives, MSNBC to progressives. I don't know that the BBC has a particular target, does it?).

What is your source for news? What will you refuse to read because it is so inherently unreliable?

[Havet]

Internet and the daily show by jon stewart

[Pogue]

I read the Sun, if I can't get it the Daily Mail, and then Aryan Times each fortnight.

[OriginalGumby]

Articles
http://socialistworker.org/
http://www.counterpunch.org/
http://www.atimes.com/

Video
http://www.democracynow.org/
http://therealnews.com/t/

[Sarah Palin]

Daily Show, Colbert Report, HuffingtonPost, Socialist Woker, Al Jazeera, The Nation, Rolling Stone,

[Bud Struggle]

Fox News. ;)

Seriously, I get it from Internet blogs around the spectrum.

[Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor]

Internet Forums. Interesting stuff finds a way of being discussed.
Facebook. Again, interesting stuff finds a way of surfacing.
Wikipedia. If it's really interesting, I'll hear about it.

I occasionally read the local newspaper or see the news when someone else is watching it. The news is mainly crap that nobody gives a shit about and has no political relevance. Cat stuck in a tree. Kid who can blow bubbles with his noise. Stupid shit that's a waste of my time, frankly.

I can watch Fox or CNN because I can tell when they're twisting the facts. They don't outright lie that often. It's subtle.

[graffic]

I can't read the daily mail or the sun or the daily telegraph.

The guardian is the most trustworthy for me. I read a book about the current media called "Flat earth news", the writer concluded that the problem with todays news is not the fact that it's fabricated or deliberately set out to mislead the public (although that does happen). The problem is that with the new technology journalistic standards of checking information have collapsed. News literally comes straight off the wires and on to TV screens.

Before computers journalists would take days to gather information and check the sources. Now journalists rely solely on "Reuters" services and agencies for the raw information over the internet. And with the efficiency of the internet a white - lie can spread incredibly fast. An example would be the "millennium bug" which was an irrational fear thought up two years before the millennium that all computers would crash when the clocks turned to 2000. The story originated from a wacky scientist with no solid evidence for panic and journalists all over the world pedaled the fiction simply because they believed it and it was a good story. Millions of pounds was spent on "protecting" computers for no reason.

For middle east news Haaretz is a great source because they aim to be objective and regularly criticise the IDF/settlement activity. I think Al-Jazeera has a specific agenda and was recently outed as shaming president Abbas for their pro-Hamas coverage.

[Misanthrope]

Revleft.com, Real News on youtube.

&

http://www.wsws.org/

Oh and my take on the modern news industry. Capitalism corrupts it, the major news industries don't care about getting their views out there. They care about making their opulent viewers happy. News is bias to whoever has more money and that is the capitalists.

[Dean]

What is your source for news?
AlJazeera
Reuters
WSWS


What will you refuse to read because it is so inherently unreliable?
CNN
NBC
FOX
NY Times
Richmond Times Dispatch (the local rag)
CBS

Seriously, these publications are trash and they specialize in misrepresentative, jingoistic, sensationalist and reactionary media. Hard hitting journalism in Israel, for instance, amounts to some jerk-off standing on the Israeli side of the border insisting to the audience that Israel is abiding by international law.

[Dean]

For middle east news Haaretz is a great source because they aim to be objective and regularly criticise the IDF/settlement activity. I think Al-Jazeera has a specific agenda and was recently outed as shaming president Abbas for their pro-Hamas coverage.

Bullshit. Haaretz is a good source if you don't mind wading through pages of pro-Zionist racism to get to the level-headed journalists. Its a bit exhausting, but yeah, worth the read.

What happened with AlJazeera is that the PA, unhappy that they covered a candid inverview with one of their detractors, shut down their West Bank offices. Since then they have been allowed to continue operations, but a suit is supposedly going to be filed agaisnt them for "false information." Hamas has also been critical of AlJazeera, who is certainly not "pro Hamas." :rolleyes:

AlJazeera seems to be more willing to report on the third world than any other english journal. Certainly more useful than Haaretz, which is saturated by biased media and sponsers.

[danyboy27]

bbc world news buletin, 30 min during the morning, 30 min during the afternoon.

[Rosa Provokateur]

http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/

http://www.greenanarchy.org/index.php?action=viewjournal

http://indymedia.us/en/index.shtml

http://www.jesusradicals.com/

[ls]

I read the Sun, if I can't get it the Daily Mail, and then Aryan Times each fortnight.

Same plus

FOX News
WHITE NATIONALIST
The Daily Star
Hurriyet
Haaretz
The Voice of Reason (the bnp one)


Reuters

Brilliant if you're interested in news devoid of anything significant.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

What is your source for news? What will you refuse to read because it is so inherently unreliable?
Most commonly I get my news online, on forums or through blogs. News blogs I am subscribe to include RTÉ News, the Times, breakingnews.ie and a few others. IRL, the papers I read most commonly are the Irish Times and the Financial Times. Every now and again I'll pick up the Guardian, or the Times if I see an interesting headline. For Sunday papers I usually read the Sunday Business Post.

By the way, while we're on sources, what is your source for that 8% figure? It is very low indeed. My guess is that it's probably because the recession has everyone pissed off and feeling they've been lied to about everything. But there's also the fact that, from what I've seen anyway, US news sources tend to be absolute bollocks. Fox is the obvious one that comes to mind, and CNN follows closely. Both of those are awful awful news sources, and although I'm sure there are many good sources as well, they are some of the main ones and their crapness will obviously tarnish the public's view of mainstrem news services.

[SouthernBelle82]

Sorry but you don't know CNN very well do you? They have Rick Sanchez who is an anti-Castro who recently gave voice to this guy who was bashing Castro and who I understood from reading about him to be a fascist and a criminal. I don't trust any American media. I may read them but I take it with a grain of salt. With getting news if I do get it from the States I go to alternative media like Truthdig or The Nation and I read AlJazeera English and the Asian Times.

[SouthernBelle82]

Articles
http://socialistworker.org/
http://www.counterpunch.org/
http://www.atimes.com/

Video
http://www.democracynow.org/
http://therealnews.com/t/

Democracy Now is very good too. I do watch the "Daily Show" and "Colbert Report" but that's for entertainment not to get news.

[SouthernBelle82]

Bullshit. Haaretz is a good source if you don't mind wading through pages of pro-Zionist racism to get to the level-headed journalists. Its a bit exhausting, but yeah, worth the read.

What happened with AlJazeera is that the PA, unhappy that they covered a candid inverview with one of their detractors, shut down their West Bank offices. Since then they have been allowed to continue operations, but a suit is supposedly going to be filed agaisnt them for "false information." Hamas has also been critical of AlJazeera, who is certainly not "pro Hamas." :rolleyes:

AlJazeera seems to be more willing to report on the third world than any other english journal. Certainly more useful than Haaretz, which is saturated by biased media and sponsers.

I've been following AlJazeera since Donald Rumsfeld wanted to kill them. They're old school journalist's. There was a documentary made about them called "Control Room" I believe is the name. It shows why Rumsfeld didn't like them.

[redflag32]

I read the Sun, if I can't get it the Daily Mail, and then Aryan Times each fortnight.

Going from your opinion of Irish republicans i wouldnt say that reading list is far off:lol:

[narcomprom]

CNN
NBC
FOX
NY Times
Richmond Times Dispatch (the local rag)
CBS

Seriously, these publications are trash and they specialize in misrepresentative, jingoistic, sensationalist and reactionary media. Hard hitting journalism in Israel, for instance, amounts to some jerk-off standing on the Israeli side of the border insisting to the audience that Israel is abiding by international law.
Wether you like it or not these publications are most widely read. What makes a source interesting is not it's truthfulness - you can always google a boring politologist's paper or blog giving a sober picture - but it's impact. When I read BBC I inform myself how the opinion of my neighbours will be shaped.
All important mass media in capitalism will specialise in what you told there about western press exclusively. It's not that Dubai, China or Russia are different from us. What they have are different elites who would invest into different points raised.
Google's translation tools are brilliant to find out how the other side lies.

[SouthernBelle82]

Same plus

FOX News
WHITE NATIONALIST
The Daily Star
Hurriyet
Haaretz
The Voice of Reason (the bnp one)



Brilliant if you're interested in news devoid of anything significant.

LOL this coming from someone who reads Fox, The Daily Star and wtf is the "white nationalist"? Racist much?

[RainbowLeftist]

Internet Forums
Word of Mouth (Not reliable)

[The Idler]

Only eight (8!)% of the U.S. public has confidence in the news they get from the mainstream media. A defender of modern journalists, himself a journalist from the NY Times, was saying today that there are more talented and competent journalists now than ever, and that if you can't find a source of news you trust, you aren't looking hard enough. I believe this.

So I don't understand that 8% number. They are all biased, of course, but CNN is not going to invent (or cover up) a story about, say, Chinese spies in the Obama administration or the bribery of a Senator, because they know their competitors are watching them. They have a financial incentive in "getting it right."

I can't think of too many stories from any major news outlet that were so demonstrably false that I would never trust that outlet again.

On the other hand, maybe it's all just show biz, and reporters will say whatever their particular audience wants to hear (Fox plays to conservatives, MSNBC to progressives. I don't know that the BBC has a particular target, does it?).

What is your source for news? What will you refuse to read because it is so inherently unreliable?A free market does not produce a free press. Read Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky (http://propertyistheft.wordpress.com/2009/07/23/fascism-and-the-propaganda-model/). What would be the incentive for the mainstream to honestly report on free universal healthcare for example? Losing ad revenue from health insurance companies? When you read the alternative press, you begin to realise just how many stories are off-limits to mainstream editors even ones (like MSNBC) that you consider "progressive". Even just watching a Michael Moore film seems to shock Americans at the views presented within, as beyond the pale. Who was the NYT journalist who said this, and would they be disappointed if you said you read Socialist Worker because its the only news source you trust.