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Octobox
18th July 2009, 18:19
Marx was correct in his coining of Capitalism as a negative because he was refering to two consumer/labor/monetary/property evils: 1) Economic-Fuedalism -which leads to- 2) Economic-Fascism (Capitalism / Corporatism).

Since he coined the word/phrase then it's his right to define it.

The biggest mistake in Free-Market Theory is to try to "hijack" Marx's word. So, why did they do this?

Economic-Individualism is a much better phrase and implies (if you accept "individualism" to mean individual-anarchism).

I cannot resolve (meditatively) the idea that property "law" over a anarchist society can exist alongside the axiom of non-violence. Nor can I work-out how any contract between individuals or groups can be maintained in the long-run (in this case years/decades) regarding land-tied property ownership or use (the latter in reference to assets that need permanent land-use -- like oil pipes or mines or heavy non-mobile machinery).

I can see how transportable property (for communists we can call it "in-use possessions") can be "traded" and kept in the long-run -- That a contract can exist wherein the defense of ones leveraged assets or other possessions that the trade rests upon can be removed; however no contract can effect the lives - free-association - use of ones own possessions out side of this mediated agreement.

Nor can a group (Anarcho-Communism) or society "own" or "control" the use of land (by law or force) in a voluntary society. In all land issues the "breaking point" is minerals, above ground water consumption, under ground water consumption, and farming practices -- all of which can effect the quality and available consumption of water/air/soil in adjacent communities.

How do we resovle the land-tied property issue in a voluntary society? If we cannot use A-Com or A-Cap as models.

The above assumes we transitioned from Corporatism (Economic-Fascism) toward Economic-Individualism (Voluntarism) and so did the rest of the world -- eliminating the ability of protracted war (all societies free and voluntary).

mykittyhasaboner
19th July 2009, 20:35
You were banned for antisemitism and trolling, now you will be banned again for having a sock puppet account.

edit: nvm i guess you weren't banned in the first place, you will be though.

Havet
19th July 2009, 20:40
You were banned for antisemitism and trolling, now you will be banned again for having a sock puppet account.

where was he an antisemitic and a troll?

mykittyhasaboner
19th July 2009, 20:51
http://www.revleft.com/vb/why-nazis-hated-t112814/index5.html

Clearly antisemitic. Not explicitly trolling, but it's not hard to tell.