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khad
17th July 2009, 22:03
http://www.uexpress.com/tedrall/?uc_full_date=20090714


07/14/2009
OBAMA COVERS UP A DOZEN MY LAIS

Were 3,000 Afghans Murdered As U.S. Troops Stood By?

NEW YORK--"I've asked my national security team to...collect the facts," President Obama told CNN. Then, he said, "we'll probably make a decision in terms of how to approach it once we have all the facts together."

Probably.

Such was Obama's tepid reaction to a New York Times cover story about an alleged "mass killing of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Taliban prisoners of war by the forces of an American-backed warlord during the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan."

Obama sounds so reasonable. Doesn't he always? But his reaction to the massacre in the Dasht-i-Leili desert is nothing more than the latest case of his administration refusing to investigate a Bush-era war crime.

There are two things Obama doesn't want you to know about Dasht-i-Leili. First, the political class and U.S. state-controlled media have sat on this story for six to seven years. Second, U.S. troops are accused of participating in the atrocities, which involved 12 times as many murders as My Lai.

The last major battle for northern Afghanistan took place in the city of Kunduz. After a weeks-long siege marked by treachery--at one point, the Taliban pretended to surrender, then turned their weapons on advancing Northern Alliance solders--at least 8,000 Taliban POWs fell under the control of General Abdul Rashid Dostum, an Uzbek warlord with a long record of exceptional brutality.

I described what happened next in my column dated January 28, 2003:

"Five thousand of the 8,000 prisoners made the trip to Sheberghan prison in the backs of open-air Soviet-era pick-up trucks...They stopped and commandeered private container trucks to transport the other 3,000 prisoners. 'It was awful,' Irfan Azgar Ali, a survivor of the trip, told England's Guardian newspaper. 'They crammed us into sealed shipping containers. We had no water for 20 hours. We banged on the side of the container. There was no air and it was very hot. There were 300 of us in my container. By the time we arrived in Sheberghan, only ten of us were alive.'"One Afghan trucker, forced to drive one such container, says that the prisoners began to beg for air. Northern Alliance commanders 'told us to stop the trucks, and we came down. After that, they shot into the containers [to make air holes]. Blood came pouring out. They were screaming inside.' Another driver in the convoy estimates that an average of 150 to 160 people died in each container."

According to Scottish filmmaker Jamie Doran, the butchery continued for three days.

Doran's documentary about these events, "Afghan Massacre: The Convoy of Death," was shown in 50 countries but couldn't get a U.S. release by a media wallowing in the amped-up pseudo-patriotism that marked 2002. Doran's film broke the story. (You can watch it online at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8763367484184611493.) My column brought it to a mainstream American audience:

"When the containers were unlocked at Sheberghan," I wrote in 2003, "the bodies of the dead tumbled out. A 12-man U.S. Fifth Special Forces Group unit, Operational Detachment Alpha (ODA) 595, guarded the prison's front gates...' Everything was under the control of the American commanders,' a Northern Alliance soldier tells Doran in the film. American troops searched the bodies for Al Qaeda identification cards. But, says another driver, 'Some of [the prisoners] were alive. They were shot' while 'maybe 30 or 40' American soldiers watched."

The Northern Alliance witness told Doran that American commanders advised him to "get rid of them [the bodies] before satellite pictures could be taken." Indeed, satellite photos reveal that Afghan President Hamid Karzai's government dispatched bulldozers to the mass grave site in 2006 and removed most of the bodies.

World's Most Dangerous Places writer Robert Young Pelton, a colleague who (like me) was in and around Kunduz in November 2001, denies that Dostum's men or U.S. Special Forces killed more than a few hundred Taliban prisoners. However, the U.S. government started receiving firsthand accounts of the events at Dasht-i-Leili in early 2002. According to the Times "Dell Spry, the FBI's senior representative at...Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, heard accounts of the deaths from agents he supervised there. Separately, 10 or so prisoners brought from Afghanistan reported that they had been 'stacked like cordwood' in shipping containers and had to lick the perspiration off one another to survive, Mr. Spry recalled."

Axle
17th July 2009, 22:20
How many more war crimes from the last eight years are going to be discovered and subsequently ignored by Obama, I wonder.

Not that it matters much...we're the "good guys" and they're the "bad guys" and everyone in Afghanistan and Iraq who hate us being there are just a bunch of ingrates, right?

Il Medico
17th July 2009, 22:46
When I hear things like this.... I.....I can't help but be moved to anger, someone must hold these men responsible... even if the administration of "change" won't. How long will we sit idly by? How long will we allow this to happen? How long will it take? What is necessary to wake people up to the reality that this is not some random atrocity? How long will it take people to realize it is not just Bush or Obama, it is capitalism as a whole that is to blame?

Dimentio
17th July 2009, 22:52
When I hear things like this.... I.....I can't help but be moved to anger, someone must hold these men responsible... even if the administration of "change" won't. How long will we sit idly by? How long will we allow this to happen? How long will it take? What is necessary to wake people up to the reality that this is not some random atrocity? How long will it take people to realize it is not just Bush or Obama, it is capitalism as a whole that is to blame?

Most people actually realise that. They simply do not care. I actually think that there is a large segment of the western population which would either shrug their shoulders or start to make jokes if the USA or Israel nukes Qom.

Stranger Than Paradise
18th July 2009, 08:42
It is completely sickening and tragic (bringing tears to my eyes) that these men will probably never come to justice in their lifetimes and we may never know all the innocent men and women they have murdered.

Starry Plough
18th July 2009, 09:21
While it is an appalling war crime that should be punished but never will be, I think we mustn't lose sight of the fact that the Taleban also has absolutely no respect for human rights.

#FF0000
18th July 2009, 09:27
Yeah that's much worse than I thought it was.

Guerrilla22
18th July 2009, 10:39
Yeah it has been known for a while that this occured. Unfortunately the US media isn't going to cover it and the majority of people in the US will have the attitude who cares its the Taliban and it was justified because of 9/11.

Mather
18th July 2009, 17:42
This comes as no surprise to me.

I don't do the 'lesser evil' game of supporting the 'nicer' and 'more human' side of the capitalist ruling class. To me the liberal is just the other side of the capitalist coin to the conservative. Obama is no different to Bush, save for a better understanding of PR and with his media savvy personality, better able to fool people into thinking that the political elites in Washington DC and the capitalist system are working for everyones benefit.

It was both sad and telling last year how many people were fooled by the wave of Obama fever that struck the US, not just from the liberal middle class but even from some sections of the supposedly 'revolutionary' left and the trade unions, who should have known better.

khad
19th July 2009, 04:47
While it is an appalling war crime that should be punished but never will be, I think we mustn't lose sight of the fact that the Taleban also has absolutely no respect for human rights.
If the Taleban has absolutely no respect for human rights, then what does this say about the agents of imperialism?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090712/wl_nm/us_afghanistan_police


Afghans turn to Taliban in fear of own police

By Peter Graff Peter Graff Sun Jul 12, 9:57 am ET

PANKELA, Afghanistan (Reuters) – As British troops moved into the village newly freed from Taliban control, they heard one message from the anxious locals: for God's sake do not bring back the Afghan police.

U.S. and British troops have launched a campaign to seize control of Helmand province, about half of which was in Taliban hands, and restore Afghan government institutions.

But as they advance, they are learning uncomfortable facts about their local allies: villagers say the government's police force was so brutal and corrupt that they welcomed the Taliban as liberators.

"The police would stop people driving on motorcycles, beat them and take their money," said Mohammad Gul, an elder in the village of Pankela, which British troops have been securing for the past three days after flying in by helicopter.

He pointed to two compounds of neighbors where pre-teen children had been abducted by police to be used for the local practice of "bachabazi," or sex with pre-pubescent boys.

"If the boys were out in the fields, the police would come and rape them," he said. "You can go to any police base and you will see these boys. They hold them until they are finished with them and then let the child go."
The Interior Ministry in Kabul said it would contact police commanders in the area before responding in detail.

When the Taliban arrived in the village 10 months ago and drove the police out, local people rejoiced, said Mohammad Rasul, a toothless elderly farmer who keeps a few cows and chickens in a neatly tended orchard of pomegranate trees, figs and grape vines.

Although his own son was killed by a Taliban roadside bomb five years ago, Rasul said the fighters earned their welcome in the village by treating people with respect.

"We were happy (after the Taliban arrived). The Taliban never bothered us," he said.

Before the Taliban arrived, the police had come to his house with a powerful landlord he called a "tyrant," who put a rifle in his face, searched through his compound and demanded money.

"If (the British) bring these people back, we can't live here. If they come back, I am sure they will burn everything," Rasul said.

MINES, SNIPERS

The British effort, Operation Panther's Claw, has focused on the Babaji district north of the provincial capital Lashkar Gah, an area of lush fields, vineyards and orchards, watered by carefully tended streams and canals fed by the Helmand river.

Taliban fighters have sown the area with homemade mines and sniper nests, inflicting the worst casualties of the war. At least 15 British soldiers have been killed in the past 12 days.

Further south, some 4,000 U.S. Marines have met less resistance after seizing three districts of the lower Helmand River valley in an air and ground assault.

The aim is to impose Afghan government control over most of the province in time for an August 20 presidential poll.

But commanders say holding the area for the longer term will depend on bringing in credible local security forces.

The United States has spent lavishly in the past eight years to build up the Afghan National Army (ANA).

But it left training the Afghan National Police (ANP) to Germany, which spent a fraction as much, sending a small number of civilian instructors.
The result is a police force that is widely acknowledged to be unprepared for work in a combat zone: the ANP suffered three times as many deaths as the ANA last year.

Washington is rushing to make up the gap, sending 4,000 military trainers to Afghanistan this year to focus mainly on professionalizing the police.
Entire police forces are being removed from districts and sent to remote locations for intensive eight-week training.

Major Al Steele, commander of Bravo Company of 3 SCOTS, the Black Watch, who met elders in Pankela, acknowledged their concerns but said foreign forces were working on it.

"We have heard a lot of complaints about the ANP, but the Coalition Forces and the ANA are working together well, and the ANP are getting better," he told Gul Mohammad, squatting outside the elder's mud-walled compound.
The elder shrugged and flipped his prayer beads.

"Every time we heard that new ANP would come. But the old ANP would come back and it would be just like in the past."

"The people here trust the Taliban," he said. "If the police come back and behave the same way, we will support the Taliban to drive them out."