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griffjam
17th July 2009, 20:09
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Just The Facts



Wrote several stories including The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged.
According to her theory of "objectivism," you are a drain upon society if you use public healthcare/unemployment insurance/roads.
Ms. Rand agreed that "All sex (http://www.cracked.com/funny-320-sex/) is rape," but that's a good thing. Somehow.


Ayn Rand's Books

The works of Ayn Rand include Atlas Shrugged, a popular novel on the evils of government regulations; The Fountainhead, the story of rebellious architect Howard Roark struggling to maintain his integrity; and Anthem, which I didn't read because you only need the first two to be trendy.
The Fountainhead was a breathtaking, cliche-defying, rape-justifying read. Roark, its hero, chooses to fight in obscurity rather than sell out on his creative vision of how buildings ought to be designed. Also, he blows up a building because he's a genius and he can do whatever he wants. Sure, at 700 pages it was a little long, but at least it wasn't 700 pages describing cancer metastasis and tort law, like A Civil Action.
http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/wong/aynrand/a_civil_action-img-0679772677.jpg
This book is like Lord of the Rings, but about Leukemia.


Atlas Shrugged follows Dagny Taggart, railroad heiress/author self insertion, on her quest to have sex with ("get raped by") a series of increasingly powerful men. Also, there's a minor subplot about the economy collapsing because of a guy called John Galt. The title, Atlas Shrugged, is a clever metaphor that one appreciates gradually as the story progresses, until halfway through the story when one character comes out and explains exactly what it means. Also, "halfway through the story" in this case means page 550, because the eleven-hundred page Atlas Shrugged is, according to the world's most "objective" source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_book), the 9th longest book ever written. It used to be 10th, but then they decided that this (http://marienbadmylove.com/Documents/Marienbad%20My%20Love%20-%20Part%2020.htm) probably didn't qualify as an actual novel. Of that 1100, about 25% is comprised of monologues on the virtue of selfishness which characters launch into whenever they are faced with staunch opposition, a large group of people or a shiny object. This culminates in a speech in which Rand Galt describes why every economic, political and philosophical idea ever taught is wrong.
Philosophy

Ayn Rand's philosophy of ubermenschian hero worship has become fodder for numerous parodies, critiques, and off-the-cuff references, from common drivel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BioShock) to incredibly high brow comedy (http://www.cracked.com/); (see The 10 Best Animated Movies for (Traumatizing) Kids (http://www.cracked.com/article_15070_10-best-animated-movies-traumatizing-kids.html).) Her infamy is the result of her uncompromising belief that the only good in life is pursuing one's own interests. The weak deserve no attention, and to help others rather than shape the world to one's ideals is not only a distraction, it is morally repugnant.


So which of the following people do you think Ayn Rand admired?


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Answer: none of them. The Autobahn was wasteful government spending.


Do not jump to the conclusion that she was a racist, however. In fact, Rand actually wrote at length about the irrationality of racism (http://freedomkeys.com/ar-racism.htm). So as long as you used your mind to its utmost and sought to create rather than loot, Rand was probably going to be incredibly accepting of you no matter who you were. As long as you weren't gay (http://www.indegayforum.org/news/show/27018.html).


Also, she's responsible for Ron Paul. Thanks, Ayn.

GPDP
17th July 2009, 20:42
I lol'd.

mykittyhasaboner
17th July 2009, 20:51
I feel stupider now.

Bud Struggle
17th July 2009, 21:10
Can't wait to see the Marx Flowchart.

mykittyhasaboner
17th July 2009, 21:12
No Marxists won't waste time making pitiful flowcharts. Sorry tom. You have to actually read some stuff to comprehend Marxism.

Jimmie Higgins
17th July 2009, 21:18
That post was waaaay too kind to Rand.

Shortly after the economic collapse, Alan Greenspan (General Gervius to Rand's Senator Palpatine) had to go before congress and admit: "I have found a flaw in my ideology". That's like driving right off a cliff and then saying, I took a wrong turn back at the interstate.

Bud Struggle
17th July 2009, 21:19
No Marxists won't waste time making pitiful flowcharts. Sorry tom. You have to actually read some stuff to comprehend Marxism.

Ouch! You're right. I tried Googling and I couldn't come up with anything. (FYI: I'm no Rand fan.)

Jazzratt
17th July 2009, 21:22
Where did you copy this from?

mykittyhasaboner
17th July 2009, 21:23
Ouch! You're right. I tried Googling and I couldn't come up with anything.
This is the closest thing I could find, but I don't think it was made by a Marxist.

http://www.flowofhistory.com/sites/foh.gargtech.com/files/images/FC115.preview.png


(FYI: I'm no Rand fan.)
I know. That's a good thing.

AnthArmo
18th July 2009, 10:01
Rofl I've seen this, you got this off of Cracked.com. Awesome website

ckaihatsu
18th July 2009, 22:24
I lol'd.


I nearly plotzed...!

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No Marxists won't waste time making pitiful flowcharts.


Hey!!! What about diagrams??? (See my link below.) Are *all* visual aids *automatically* pitiful???





This is the closest thing I could find, but I don't think it was made by a Marxist.


[Stalinist-type joke]

Oh, shit, we're way behind in flowchart production![/Stalinist-type joke]


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Pogue
18th July 2009, 22:39
lol wtf

#FF0000
19th July 2009, 01:25
So which of the following people do you think Ayn Rand admired?


http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/wong/aynrand/teresakellerhitlercopy.jpg



Answer: none of them. The Autobahn was wasteful government spending.


Laffo Supreme

Havet
19th July 2009, 09:04
So which of the following people do you think Ayn Rand admired?


http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/wong/aynrand/teresakellerhitlercopy.jpg



Answer: none of them. The Autobahn was wasteful government spending.

She admired Aristotle.

Anyway, whats with all the Ayn Rand bashing lately?

Jazzratt
19th July 2009, 11:36
Anyway, whats with all the Ayn Rand bashing lately?


Always good to have a bit of Rand bashing. She was a godawful shit of a human being after all.

Lynx
19th July 2009, 11:53
Of that 1100, about 25% is comprised of monologues on the virtue of selfishness which characters launch into whenever they are faced with staunch opposition, a large group of people or a shiny object. This culminates in a speech in which Rand Galt describes why every economic, political and philosophical idea ever taught is wrong.
I can't wait to see the musical.

Havet
19th July 2009, 12:33
Always good to have a bit of Rand bashing. She was a godawful shit of a human being after all.

There are worse human beings. Why don't you bash them as well? Why not bash Hitler for example? Was it done before already? So was Rand bashing, yet some people here keep on bashing. Why the sudden interest in Rand? She's just a minarchist who wrote some novels. The are plenty other "godawful shit of human beings" out there who deserve much more attention.

I'm not saying I agree with what she says, but why bash her when there (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini) are (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler) worse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin) people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratko_Mladi%C4%87) to (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_w_bush) bash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Akayesu)?

Jazzratt
19th July 2009, 12:42
There are worse human beings.

Doesn't make her any less of a shit. Simply pointing at someone else and saying "they're worse" exonerates her of fuck all.


Why don't you bash them as well? Why not bash Hitler for example? Was it done before already? So was Rand bashing, yet some people here keep on bashing.

More people buy into Rand's poison ideas than Hitler's. It's much easier to find free marketeers than nazis, after all.


Why the sudden interest in Rand? She's just a minarchist who wrote some novels. The are plenty other "godawful shit of human beings" out there who deserve much more attention.

What makes her a shit of a human being is that her ideas form the basis of one of the most effective anti-worker ideologies in existance. as economic collapse looms once more there will be people prepared to attempt to inact these foul ideas, that is why she is opposed. That is why we bash her.


I'm not saying I agree with what she says, but why bash her when there (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini) are (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler) worse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin) people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratko_Mladi%C4%87) to (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_w_bush) bash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Akayesu)?

Because her followers are numerous. Also saying stalin is worse would be pushing it a bit. I don't even like stalin but at least he was trying to make the world better.

Havet
19th July 2009, 14:33
Doesn't make her any less of a shit. Simply pointing at someone else and saying "they're worse" exonerates her of fuck all. Good point, but there are still worse people more worthy of revleft's time of bashing.



More people buy into Rand's poison ideas than Hitler's. It's much easier to find Minarchists than nazis, after all.
Corrected you on that :cool: She was comfortable with the free market only to a certain extent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_%28Ayn_Rand%29#Politics:_individual_ri ghts_and_capitalism).




What makes her a shit of a human being is that her ideas form the basis of one of the most effective anti-worker ideologies in existance. as economic collapse looms once more there will be people prepared to attempt to inact these foul ideas, that is why she is opposed. That is why we bash her.

Well from a certain point I can understand how her ideas are anti-worker, and I agree with you on that. But from another viewpoint, one could argue she is very keen to defend worker's right to their own products.

"Theres a whole portion of the book where millionaire industrialists are giving up massive industries to go work as pig farmers, mechanics and cleaners in a small valley hidden from governmental reach. The moral being that its better to own everything you earn doing "menial" work, than work as a millionaire industrialist where huge amount of your effort is going to pay bureaucrats who believe you owe them a debt for your success.

Rand also goes to lengths to show that the enjoyment gained from productive activity can be the same, whether it be running a huge rail network, or cooking a simple meal."


Because her followers are numerous. Also saying stalin is worse would be pushing it a bit. I don't even like stalin but at least he was trying to make the world better.

Every person who did harm tried to "make the world better". Hitler tried to "make the world better". "making the world better" is the most used worldwide excuse to justify slavery, theft and murder.

FreeMan
19th July 2009, 22:39
Commies hate Rand because she represents the total opposite of what their beliefs are. What make commies hate Rand even more is that her belief system works while the communism is a total failure to man kind.

Rand believes in a system that results in life, happiness and prosperity.

Commies believe in a system that result in total destruction, naked evil and death.

Richard Nixon
19th July 2009, 23:13
There are worse human beings. Why don't you bash them as well? Why not bash Hitler for example? Was it done before already? So was Rand bashing, yet some people here keep on bashing. Why the sudden interest in Rand? She's just a minarchist who wrote some novels. The are plenty other "godawful shit of human beings" out there who deserve much more attention.

I'm not saying I agree with what she says, but why bash her when there (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini) are (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler) worse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin) people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratko_Mladi%C4%87) to (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_w_bush) bash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Akayesu)?

She's anarcho-capitalist not minarchist.

khad
19th July 2009, 23:16
Ayn Rand was living proof of the humanitarian magnanimity of the Soviet Union.

SocialismOrBarbarism
20th July 2009, 00:18
Commies believe in a system that result in total destruction, naked evil and death.

http://www.insidesocal.com/tomhoffarth/North-Korean-leader-Kim-Jong-Il.jpg

Dimentio
20th July 2009, 00:36
Commies hate Rand because she represents the total opposite of what their beliefs are. What make commies hate Rand even more is that her belief system works while the communism is a total failure to man kind.

Rand believes in a system that results in life, happiness and prosperity.

Commies believe in a system that result in total destruction, naked evil and death.

It would be fun to watch the effects of Rand's system, from the outside. Betting how many months it will take before implosion or before a worker's revolution.

Randroidism is not a hit with the capitalist class, mostly because Rand advocates for them to behave in a way which would spell their doom.

Havet
20th July 2009, 10:05
She's anarcho-capitalist not minarchist.

Trust me, she IS a minarchist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_%28Ayn_Rand%29#Politics:_individual_ri ghts_and_capitalism)

She believes in a minimum government. Anarcho-capitalists believe in no government (the services of the government are either privatized or non-compulsory services).

AnthArmo
20th July 2009, 10:39
Commies hate Rand because she represents the total opposite of what their beliefs are. What make commies hate Rand even more is that her belief system works while the communism is a total failure to man kind.

Actually no, the exact opposite to Communism is Corporatist Fascism, get your facts straight before making stupid assumptions.


Rand believes in a system that results in life, happiness and prosperity.
Yes, for the ruling class


Commies believe in a system that result in total destruction, naked evil and death.Yes, a democratically controlled economy = death :rolleyes:

Granted, not many leftists consider cases like the Soviet Union to be communist. Those that do do so on the basis that everything we've heard about these nations are wrong.

Weren't you here a while back arguing about Cuba?

Plagueround
21st July 2009, 02:13
This all seems so...familiar. (http://www.cracked.com/funny-304-ayn-rand/)

JohnnyC
21st July 2009, 02:31
Commies hate Rand because she represents the total opposite of what their beliefs are. What make commies hate Rand even more is that her belief system works while the communism is a total failure to man kind.

Rand believes in a system that results in life, happiness and prosperity.

Commies believe in a system that result in total destruction, naked evil and death.
I see someone has really been brainwashed here...
Also, your position on communism will definitely look more convincing if you add to it something more than "communism bad and capitalism good cause I say so" sentence.