Why SF is so popular?

[No Capitalism]

Why *************** is very popular? :(
They have more than 171 000 members and we have only more than 17 000 members and only 1 383 active members.
Revleft: Total members that have visited the forum in the last 24 hours: 387
Stormfront: Total members that have visited the forum in the last 24 hours: 2,690
Why are nationalists, fascists so popular and we are very unpopular? :mad:

[LOLseph Stalin]

Why *************** is very popular? :(
They have more than 171 000 members and we have only more than 17 000 members and only 1 383 active members.
Revleft: Total members that have visited the forum in the last 24 hours: 387
Stormfront: Total members that have visited the forum in the last 24 hours: 2,690
Why are nationalists, fascists so popular and we are very unpopular? :mad:

Because they follow an ideology that requires absolutely no thinking or intellectual ability? Hey, even dumb people can be Nazi! :laugh: All it consists of is: Whites=good and everybody else=bad.

[CommunityBeliever]

I guess it must be easy to adhere to an ideology that all you have to do is spout hatred rather then an ideology that is actually about improving the human race and helping other people.

[LOLseph Stalin]

I guess it must be easy to adhere to an ideology that all you have to do is spout hatred rather then an ideology that is actually about improving the human race and helping other people.

I would say "agreed", but considering that's not really allowed here I'll go with the more appropriate alternate answer of "that was a very good post and I agree with everything".

[9]

Its already been summed up pretty well. Blaming other ethnic groups for all the problems of the world requires zero brainpower. Plus, with these kinds of groups, much of their "important material" is not meticulous and ingenious theoretical work, but rather, forged and falsified documents which (of course, since they are forged) implicate other races or cultures in massive world conspiracies (the Protocols of the Elders of Zion comes to mind). Their entire system of beliefs is based upon scapegoating and bigotry, for which there is no mind too small.

[AnthArmo]

Quality not Quantity

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Because stormfront allows you to work yourself into a frenzy without the exercise associated with leaving the house.

[ZeroNowhere]

People confuse it with science fiction.

[Revy]

I doubt all of their forum members are racist, there are many that sign up to fight the site's racism.

Kind of like how we get trolls here, or people in Opposing Ideologies.

[Pogue]

I doubt all of their forum members are racist, there are many that sign up to fight the site's racism.

Kind of like how we get trolls here, or people in Opposing Ideologies.

lol what a load of bullshit

that has to be the most futile thing ever, joining stormfront to fight its racism, seriously.

[Socialist Scum]

100,000 members.

10,000 - Bots
10,000 - Trolls
10,000 - Us
40,000 - Never visit anymore

[Il Medico]

100,000 members.

10,000 - Bots
10,000 - Trolls
10,000 - Us
40,000 - Never visit anymore
That is only 70,000.

[scarletghoul]

they do have some normal members too

[9]

I doubt all of their forum members are racist, there are many that sign up to fight the site's racism.

Kind of like how we get trolls here, or people in Opposing Ideologies.

From wikipedia:

"
Popularity and later history

In a 2001 USA Today (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_Today) article, journalist Tara McKelvey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara_McKelvey) called Stormfront "the most visited white supremacist site on the net".[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29#cite_note-14) The number of registered users on the site rose from 5,000 in January 2002 to 52,566 in June 2005,[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29#cite_note-everett-15) by which year it was the 338th largest Internet forum, received more than 1,500 hits (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hit_%28internet%29) each weekday and ranked in the top one percent of Internet sites in terms of use.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29#cite_note-sword-16)[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29#cite_note-scope-17) By June 2008, the site was attracting more than 40,000 unique users each day.[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29#cite_note-wapo-18) Operating the site from its West Palm Beach, Florida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Palm_Beach,_Florida) headquarters is Black's full-time job, and he is assisted by his son and 40 moderators.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29#cite_note-racistnextdoor-5)[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29#cite_note-wapo-18)[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29#cite_note-19)"

"In 2006, the watchdog organization Southern Poverty Law Center reported a discussion on Stormfront in which white nationalists were encouraged to join the U.S. Military in order to learn the skills necessary for winning a race war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_war).[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29#cite_note-22)[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29#cite_note-23) The 2008 United States presidential candidacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_campaign,_2008) of African-American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American) Barack Obama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama) was a cause of significant concern for some Stormfront members;[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29#cite_note-wapo-18) the site got 2,000 new members the day after Obama was elected as President (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States_of_America), and went temporarily off-line due to the overwhelming amount of activity.[25] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29#cite_note-yahoo.21-24) Stormfront posters saw Obama as representing a new multicultural (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicultural) era in the United States replacing "white rule", feared that he would support illegal immigration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration) and affirmative action (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action), and would help make white people a minority group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_group).[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29#cite_note-wapo-18) During the primary campaigns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_%28United_States%29_presidential_ primaries,_2008), The New York Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times) mistakenly claimed that Stormfront had donated US$ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar)500 to Republican Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_%28United_States%29) candidate Ron Paul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul); in fact, it was site owner Don Black who had contributed the money to Paul.[26] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29#cite_note-25) In an April 2009 shooting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Pittsburgh_police_shooting), Richard Poplawski, a poster on the site, was charged with ambushing and killing three Pittsburgh Police (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Police) officers and attempting to kill nine others.[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29#cite_note-26)"
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It seems clear that, in spite of "trolls" and bots and the hypothetical antifascists you refer to, (though something tells me Stormfront doesn't have the slightest interest in providing a forum for its opponents, seeing as Stormfront is a fascist organization...) the website is really substantially more popular than revleft. And this probably shouldn't be a surprise, as it seems reflective of the growing international popularity of neo-Nazis, racists, hatemongers, and nationalists/fascists in general. And I can't speak authoritatively about the status of the revolutionary left in other countries, but in the US, it is nearly nonexistent and I don't see it gaining in popularity - quite the contrary. And all of this leads to the urgent question, hardly fit to be consigned to the chit-chat wastelands, of what the revolutionary left is doing wrong, or failing to do, or should be doing a better job of, and what it needs to start doing or should be doing differently in order to spread the message, organize workers and gain momentum. Because fascist and racist organizations like Stormfront and the BNP are gaining the proletariat's sympathies, and without wide segments of the proletariat, leftist revolution is wholly unattainable.

[Panda Tse Tung]

The reason there's so mkany e-nazi's is because there's barely any Nazi's who live in close proximity of one another. Look at where the revlefters are from, not many at all fromn countries where the communist movement is strong. Quite the contrary.

[scarletghoul]

Stormfront has a wikipedia page and revleft doesnt :o

someone make one for us

[Jimmie Higgins]

Why *************** is very popular? :(

I think the real reason is that unlike NAZIs, we can work out in the open and in public and so there is less of a need to meet and debate only by the internet. NAZIs don't have open weekly public meetings or conferences in major cities. The ISO just had 1800 people attend their conference in the US, Laborfest and Labor Notes and the Anarchist bookfair attract hundreds of radicals to thoes events in the Bay Area. NAZIs have to meet on private property in the backwoods.

The only "open" place for NAZIs to meet and discuss is on the internet. Still the fact that they can do that and have so many visitors is a serious threat and the anti-fascist forces should be thinking of a concrete and organized way to show their opposition there just as we have forced them back into the "hate-closet" in real life.

[Dust Bunnies]

Why?
1. Publicity, no one knows about revleft.
2. Politics, there are more Fascists than Communist, at least on the internet
3. Features, Stormfront to be honest is so fucking filled with stuff it isn't even funny.

[Il Medico]

Why *************** is very popular?
They probably have cookies!:laugh:

[Sasha]

They probably have cookies!:laugh:

yeah they do but i'f you log out there it says all your cookies are cleared ;)
thats so typical fascist

[Il Medico]

yeah they do but i'f you log out there it says all your cookies are cleared ;)
thats so typical fascist
Bastards!:laugh:.... wait it says that when we log out!?! Where the fuck is my cookies revleft!!!!???!!! :lol:

[Sasha]

thats the reason why i never log out here, thats how i get to keep my cookies

[Mälli]

Every ones afraid of the reds.

[Angry Young Man]

they do have some normal members too

I'll let you ponder on the amusing semantics with that one. Not very often you get to say 'Normal for Norfolk' in context.

[-marx-]

Why *************** is very popular? :(
They have more than 171 000 members and we have only more than 17 000 members and only 1 383 active members.
Revleft: Total members that have visited the forum in the last 24 hours: 387
Stormfront: Total members that have visited the forum in the last 24 hours: 2,690
Why are nationalists, fascists so popular and we are very unpopular? :mad:
Because most of them are sheeple that don't think for themselves. They are either a white nationalist or national socialist for the imagery, nostalgia of WWII, the music, and piss ups. Most of them are redneck alcoholics that know nothing about politics. The others that do know what they are talking about are just bigoted racists that are afraid of progress, change and equality.

I think you will find more people relate to socialism (or are indeed socialists) than nationalism, its just you don't find them on message boards talking about it. They are in the real world trying to do things about real problems.

[Sam_b]

I wish people would stop comparing RevLeft to Stormfront. Its idiotic.

[Afro]

there are so many alternative fourms for 'lefties' to post in....i kinda only flick on here every now and again and barley ever post....nazi's really only have stormfront me thinks

[Magdalen]

People confuse it with science fiction.

I thought he was on about Sinn Féin for a second.

[Jimmie Higgins]

I thought he was on about Sinn Féin for a second.I thought "SF" was San Francisco.

[Invincible Summer]

Because most of them are sheeple that don't think for themselves. They are either a white nationalist or national socialist for the imagery, nostalgia of WWII, the music, and piss ups. Most of them are redneck alcoholics that know nothing about politics. The others that do know what they are talking about are just bigoted racists that are afraid of progress, change and equality.

I think you will find more people relate to socialism (or are indeed socialists) than nationalism, its just you don't find them on message boards talking about it. They are in the real world trying to do things about real problems.

Did you just use the word "sheeple?" I think you forgot your references to Bohemian Grove, the Illuminati, and shape-shifting Reptilians :lol:

[PRC-UTE]

at least one factor is internet demographics. There are less communists on than fascists, which reflects the relatively well-off people who have both access to the net and time. unlike the world's poorest, which include a lot of communists.

I wouldn't take it too seriously. Look at the world's population, and tell me which ideology is more popular in the real world (and please, no rants about what is 'reeeeeal communism').

[PRC-UTE]

I thought "SF" was San Francisco.

I thought 'Sinn Fein' first, then I thought San Francisco, and didn't even consider Stormfront :lol:

[ls]

Because they have no lives.

[redSHARP]

only the cool kids are communists!:cool:

[Incendiarism]

Street Fighter is popular because part 4 brought fighting games back into the spotlight. It offered gameplay that was engrossing and easy to pick up, which has caused a resurgence in the underground fighting scene and brought a whole batch of new players into the arcade.

[bcbm]

Street Fighter is popular because part 4 brought fighting games back into the spotlight. It offered gameplay that was engrossing and easy to pick up, which has caused a resurgence in the underground fighting scene and brought a whole batch of new players into the arcade.

want to thank this so bad