New russian anime

[Davie zepeda]

IT's kool i like it theme Ww2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emWaXQ5nfsM

[khad]

I hate it. It turns a people's war into some pseudo-mystical garbage, complete with demonic knights and all that fucking medievalist horseshit. The main character carries a goddamn samurai sword of all things. I hope they remember which side fucking Japan was on this whole time.

[hugsandmarxism]

I've been looking forward to this one for awhile now. Apparently it aired at the Cannes film festival this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_90iFLjdqQ&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxOXtBqxtrg&feature=channel_page

http://www.first-squad.com/

I've been snooping around for a fan-sub, but so far no luck. If anyone finds one, please pm or IM me! It looks silly, what with the undead German knights, telekinetic teenagers in the Red Army and walking mechs, but I'm still excited about it.

[khad]

I've been snooping around for a fan-sub, but so far no luck. If anyone finds one, please pm or IM me! It looks silly, what with the undead German knights, telekinetic teenagers in the Red Army and walking mechs, but I'm still excited about it.
It'll probably end in some silly, sentimentalist lecture about pacifism, complete with angsty sympathy for the "enemy" like most war anime shows do.

[hugsandmarxism]

I hate it. It turns a people's war into some pseudo-mystical garbage, complete with demonic knights and all that fucking medievalist horseshit. The main character carries a goddamn samurai sword of all things. I hope they remember which side fucking Japan was on this whole time.

The sacrifices made by the Red Army and citizens of the Soviet Union to bring about the defeat of fascism, who did the real heavy lifting in that war, get very little said about them in media on that topic. I'd have preferred something a little truer to history and a little less into the typical cliches of today's anime, but I think something is better than nothing.

[khad]

The sacrifices made by the Red Army and citizens of the Soviet Union to bring about the defeat of fascism, who did the real heavy lifting in that war, get very little said about them in media on that topic. I'd have preferred something a little truer to history and a little less into the typical cliches of today's anime, but I think something is better than nothing.
I can pretty much predict the plot now. There's going to be some massive supernatural conspiracy that threatens to destroy both Germany and the USSR, and this squad realizes that it's being manipulated by conspiracy leaders on the commie side, so they go and fight for "humanity."

Don't say I didn't warn you about this plot twist. It shouldn't even be a twist by now.

[hugsandmarxism]

I can pretty much predict the plot now. There's going to be some massive supernatural conspiracy that threatens to destroy both Germany and the USSR, and this squad realizes that it's being manipulated by conspiracy leaders on the commie side, so they go and fight for "humanity."

Don't say I didn't warn you about this plot twist. It shouldn't even be a twist by now.

I hope you're wrong, though that does sound like something they'd pull. :(

Oh well. At least I can still feel good about Sparkling Red Star

http://origin2.foxnews.com/images/316930/0_61_102307_star.jpg

[ComradeOm]

I hate it. It turns a people's war into some pseudo-mystical garbage, complete with demonic knights and all that fucking medievalist horseshit. The main character carries a goddamn samurai sword of all things. I hope they remember which side fucking Japan was on this whole time.Ditto. The actual history is fascinating enough without throwing in demon Nazis and walking war machines. And if you were going to use a supernatural spin then there are far better ways of doing so than a cliché anime girl with a samurai sword and 'special gift'

Edit: And isn't that the theme of Crimson Tide?

[khad]

I hope you're wrong, though that does sound like something they'd pull. :(

We've only seen this, oh, about 10000 times in the thousand-and-one Gundam incarnations.


Oh well. At least I can still feel good about Sparkling Red Star

http://origin2.foxnews.com/images/316930/0_61_102307_star.jpg
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[narcomprom]

Why do most anime artist exagerrate a character's gender so much? It only only makes them look like extraterristrials but also gives everything a reactionary sexist undertone.

I can pretty much predict the plot now. There's going to be some massive supernatural conspiracy that threatens to destroy both Germany and the USSR, and this squad realizes that it's being manipulated by conspiracy leaders on the commie side, so they go and fight for "humanity.
A plot like that would fit brilliantly into Russia's current ideological framework. The great patriotic war is nowadays portrayed as an accomplishment of purebred Russians hampered by an inconvenient economic system setup up by foreigners.
I recall quite an ironic statement by my neighbour who claimed Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kazakhs, Ukrainins and Caucasians didn't quite deserve to live in Russia because, you see, "they didn't beat the fascist, we did". That's what the current Russian culture make you think.
The anime will praise the Russian Orthodox Church, it will go on a nationalist tripe, it will praise the KGB and the army with an obligatory remark on how inefficient socialism was.
Else the artists will starve. All of Russia's cultural industry depends on state grants and Gazprom.

[NecroCommie]

Why do most anime artist exagerrate a character's gender so much? It only only makes them look like extraterristrials but also gives everything a reactionary sexist undertone.

A plot like that would fit brilliantly into Russia's current ideological framework. The great patriotic war is nowadays portrayed as an accomplishment of purebred Russians hampered by an inconvenient economic system setup up by foreigners.
I recall quite an ironic statement by my neighbour who claimed Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kazakhs, Ukrainins and Caucasians didn't quite deserve to live in Russia because, you see, "they didn't beat the fascist, we did". That's what the current Russian culture make you think.
The anime will praise the Russian Orthodox Church, it will go on a nationalist tripe, it will praise the KGB and the army with an obligatory remark on how inefficient socialism was.
Else the artists will starve. All of Russia's cultural industry depends on state grants and Gazprom.
Aye, it is true and sad how Russians have converted to nationalism. It is present even in the communist party, albeit to a lesser degree.

[mykittyhasaboner]

It looks cool, I'll definitely check it out.

[Agrippa]

I hate it. It turns a people's war into some pseudo-mystical garbage, complete with demonic knights and all that fucking medievalist horseshit. The main character carries a goddamn samurai sword of all things. I hope they remember which side fucking Japan was on this whole time.

So will it be banned by the global Proletkult after the revolution for failing to comply with standards of socialist realism? ;)



Why do most anime artist exagerrate a character's gender so much? It only only makes them look like extraterristrials but also gives everything a reactionary sexist undertone.

For the same reason that almost all anime portrays Japanese people as looking identical to Northern Europeans?

[khad]

I recall quite an ironic statement by my neighbour who claimed Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kazakhs, Ukrainins and Caucasians didn't quite deserve to live in Russia because, you see, "they didn't beat the fascist, we did". That's what the current Russian culture make you think.
I remember reading one anecdote regarding this mentality from another board. A young Russian communist was arguing with this middle aged bureaucrat-type over the Belarus gas deal controversy. The guy said something like "those cheap bastards just want to rip us off." The communist's response was "Belarus lost almost half its people in the war; the gas has been paid in full"


The anime will praise the Russian Orthodox Church, it will go on a nationalist tripe, it will praise the KGB and the army with an obligatory remark on how inefficient socialism was.
With all that garbage religious imagery, you can pretty much guarantee some tribute to the fucking church.


Else the artists will starve. All of Russia's cultural industry depends on state grants and Gazprom.
The current Russia is still cannibalizing the corpse of the Soviet Union. That and inventing new ways to prostitute itself to bourgeois imperialists.

[Dimentio]

Oh shit... I know I probably should'nt say this, but I can't stand most manga or anime. I feel it is a drawing style which owes its popularity to its simplicity. Each and every idiot could draw manga.

[NecroCommie]

Oh shit... I know I probably should'nt say this, but I can't stand most manga or anime. I feel it is a drawing style which owes its popularity to its simplicity. Each and every idiot could draw manga.
Depends on the exact style of manga. I've seen some semi-realistic styles to draw manga, and then the styles whom anyone could draw better. Check out www.onemanga.com

[makesi]

Overall, I guess I agree with most of the comments, but being able to read Russian I do feel (hope?) that the myths, cultural tropes, and imagery--and I mean the words myth and trope in a non-perjorative sense--associated with WWII in today's Russia are, because of the undeniable historical facts;namely, that it was the USSR that won the war, that, as an historical event, it cannot be completely abridged from the successes of communism nor that it can be simply transformed into a nationalist and anti-Soviet propaganda device; thus, making it part of the new racist, slavic nationalism.

I'll admit I didn't have enough patience (at least at this time) to listen carefully to the trailers above. I did notice that the one I briefly scanned through had Western-influenced music and at least one prominent shot an anime version of Byzantine/medieval Russian christian icon that the heroine is looking at. Considering that the most popular, nativistic film, that I know of, coming out of the country was "Ostrov" (The Island) and was, from what I've read about it--and I dont care to see it--a basically reactionary, WWII film, I would guess that the dismaying predictions about this anime are right on the money.

[Agrippa]

Oh shit... I know I probably should'nt say this, but I can't stand most manga or anime. I feel it is a drawing style which owes its popularity to its simplicity. Each and every idiot could draw manga.

There's lots of really good anime and manga, though. Hayao Miyazaki, for example, is one of history's greatest filmmakers. And Osamu Tezuka, better known for his sophomoric Astro Boy comics, has made some really heady, and also sincerely beautiful manga over the years. Even commercially accessible, televised anime can have really complex, vivid styles. (Good examples are Cowboy Bebop and FLCL)

[Dimentio]

For some perverted reason, I still tend to prefer Disney's drawing style of the 70's and early 80's.

[Agrippa]

For some perverted reason, I still tend to prefer Disney's drawing style of the 70's and early 80's.

You mean like Jungle Book, The Aristocats, 101 Dalmations, The Black Cauldron?

I like that style a lot, too....

[khad]

For some perverted reason, I still tend to prefer Disney's drawing style of the 70's and early 80's.
I always thought they should have done more with rotoscoping techniques. Most of the animation today looks damn stiff and jerky, and anime suffers in particular from bad framerates.

The most overdone animated fight scene ever. Dark wolf pwns his evil son.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-YbSsDtl-U

[Salabra]

I'll watch with my critical AND left-wing glasses on!

[Davie zepeda]

It's nationalist and vague but respects the fact Russia did fight in the war, so hey at least it look's at it in positive light. Other than that i find it extremely hilarious that a tank can beat a robot looking monster lol