Does Anyone know any Marxist punk groups?

[BakuninFan]

Does anyone know any decent Marxist or Anarchist Punk groups?

Please Specify thier political affiliations.

PS: Ive already heard of The Clash, Gang of Four (Marxist), Crass, the Dead Kennedys (Anarchist), and the Sex Pistols (Situationist?)

[scarletghoul]

I always kinda thought of the pistols as nihilist-anarchist

[BakuninFan]

I always kinda thought of the pistols as nihilist-anarchist
Malcom McLaren, thier manager, was a Situationist. But still, can anyone answer my question?

[Dervish]

Umm... NoFX?
*runs*

[BakuninFan]

Umm... NoFX?
*runs*

OK what is their ideology?

[Dervish]

I'm unsure... although if I recall correctly they reference anarchism, Howard Zinn, and Noam Chomsky in some of their songs.

Subhumans are a great anarcho-punk band.

[Pirate Utopian]

Angelic Upstarts, Scritti Politti and The Slits.

If you like post-punk I'd recommend Devo and Jihad Jerry as well. Not really Marxist but they say some things worth hearing and Jihad Jerry made great songs against the war in the middle east.

[Jack]

Anarchist: Los Fastidos (which I put first because I think they may be Marxists), Crass, Oi Polloi, Conflict, Reagan Youth, Discharge, Disrupt, The Pist, Skitsystem, Dead Kennedys, MDC, Antisect, Amebix, Rudimentary Peni, Les Amis De La Femme, Exit-Stance, DOA, Vegan Reich, Disorder, A//Political, Subhumans, Choking Victim, Disclose, Disfear, Varukers, Leftover Crack, Icons of Filth, Fleas and Lice, Mouth Sewn Shut, Toxic Narcotic, Electro Hippies, DOOM, Dirt, Zounds, Wolfbrigade, Flux of Pink Indians, Poison Girls, Crisis.

Most of those are crust/d-beat, but I bolded the best one's. I'm out of the punk scene now, btw, though I still go to shows sometimes I don't wear my digs.

[BakuninFan]

Noam Chomsky! Cool!

And I've heard of the Slits, but never actually heard them.

Also, there was a 60's Experimental rock group called the United States of America that was Marxist, i believe?

[ls]

Malcom McLaren, thier manager, was a Situationist. But still, can anyone answer my question?

:laugh:

[Jack]

Oh, and expect to get alot of shit if you rep Vegan Reich.

[BakuninFan]

Oh, and expect to get alot of shit if you rep Vegan Reich.
Why? lol

[Pirate Utopian]

The Slits were a feministic group who even made an athem for shoplifting, aptly named Shoplifting.

Also one of the founders of the United States of America was a CPUSA member a few years before forming the band and on their one album there is a song about Che Guevara.

[ls]

Here is a good song, I guess silver bullet is a anarchist rapper or at least sympathises.

Undercover Anarchist

[gorillafuck]

The Slits were a feministic group who even made an athem for shoplifting, aptly named Shoplifting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9kRXh2wHCs

Choking Victims song about shoplifting is far superior.

[Jack]

Why? lol

Because they basically founded Hardline.

[Pirate Utopian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9kRXh2wHCs

Choking Victims song about shoplifting is far superior.
Not my bag, mate.

[mykittyhasaboner]

Catch-22 are a bunch of Trots, but there damn good Trots.

http://funkysouls.com/img/CatchTwentyTwoPermanentRevolution2006.jpg

[Bilan]

Don't know of any specifically Marxist punk bands.
Shit loads of anarchist and anarcho-syndicalist ones.

Bands like Ska-P for example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh1GxhfCRE0

[Sam_b]

the Sex Pistols (Crap)

Fixed.

That and Gang of Four were post punk. They're playing in February and i'm wetting myself already.

[Jack]

The Redskins are Trots.

[Pinko Panther]

Don't forget The (International) Noise Conspiracy! Some might not consider them punk, and their political stance varies from Marxist to Anarchist, but it's great music.

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[communard resolution]

CCCP, an Italian punk and post-punk band that were locally very big in the 1980s. Their first album is called Fedeli Alla Linea ("True to the party line") :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4N1lqwwtro&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PvGH4hs_gs&feature=related


Pretty awesome music, and they later recorded a couple of duets with Amanda Lear too!

[ZeroNowhere]

OK what is their ideology?Liberal, or at least nothing interesting. They're also crap.
Though yes, the Subhumans are awesome.

[Jimmie Higgins]

The Dils in the US were in the CPUSA I think - at least they called themselves communists.

Redskins were in the British SWP.

MC5 were marxist/yippie (60 rock, not punk though)

[Pogue]

Why? lol

Because Malcolm Mclaren was not a situationist.

[gorillafuck]

Liberal, or at least nothing interesting. They're also crap.
Though yes, the Subhumans are awesome.
NOFX have two or three good songs in my opinion. But yes, they are democrats (and particularly annoying ones at that).

[Bazza]

No one mentioned Marxman yet?

And here's some more SWP bands - 25th of May, Black Britain, Raj & The Magitones (ex-Redskins).

[mykittyhasaboner]

Banda Bassotti

[Fawkes]

Where'd everyone get the idea that Dead Kennedys were anarchists? As far as I know, I don't think they've ever called themselves anarchists. Most of the Marxist or leftist bands have already been mentioned, but some that I think are especially good are: The Redskins (not punk, but whatever), Choking Victim, Los Fastidios, Dead Kennedys, MC5, The Clash, Cheap Sex. The Sex Pistols are an amazing band, but I wouldn't listen to them for their political value. Be weary though, a lot of political punk bands are incredibly preachy and boring, e.g. Crass.

[Zurdito]

The Redskins are Trots.

and the best band named so far:D

the Italian band Erode are far-left but not sure what ideology.

[gorillafuck]

Where'd everyone get the idea that Dead Kennedys were anarchists? As far as I know, I don't think they've ever called themselves anarchists.
Jello Biafra at one point identified as an anarchist but then went left-liberal and joined the green party.

By the way, your user title is a Richard Hell reference, right? I need to start listening to him again...

[BakuninFan]

Because they basically founded Hardline.
Hmm. i dont like Hardline.

Too un-Punkish
lol

[Jack]

Where'd everyone get the idea that Dead Kennedys were anarchists? As far as I know, I don't think they've ever called themselves anarchists. Most of the Marxist or leftist bands have already been mentioned, but some that I think are especially good are: The Redskins (not punk, but whatever), Choking Victim, Los Fastidios, Dead Kennedys, MC5, The Clash, Cheap Sex. The Sex Pistols are an amazing band, but I wouldn't listen to them for their political value. Be weary though, a lot of political punk bands are incredibly preachy and boring, e.g. Crass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjahH-HWB14

Cheap Sex sucks and Mike Virus is an asshole.

[Fawkes]

Cheap Sex is sick and fuck you. Where in CT are you from? I live there.

Hammer and Pickle: yeah, it is, Richard Hell is sick.

[Zurdito]

btw it should be mentioned that Ska-P have now descended into Chavismo and dedicated their last album, El Libertador, to him. :( I thinkt hey still claim to be anarchist or autonomist or something, who cares.

still a quality band in their hey day though.

[mosfeld]

Millions of Dead Cops (MDC)

These guys were fucking nuts. One of the best 80s hardcore bands as well.


John Wayne slaughtered our Indian brothers
Burned their villages and raped their mothers
Now he has given them the white man's lord
Live by this, or die by the sword

John Wayne killed a lot of gooks in the war
We don't give a fuck about John anymore
We all heard his tale of blood and gore
Just another pawn for the capitalist whore

John Wayne wore an army uniform
Didn't like us reds and fags that didn't conform
Great white hero had so much nerve
Lived much longer than he deserved

http://www.allthelyrics.com/lyrics/mdc/john_wayne_was_a_nazi-lyrics-662538.html

[taryn]

The problem I find with a lot of bands that have good ideologies is that their music kind of sucks. I used to call this "The Crass Dilemma" until hearing their song "Shaved Women." In second case, their ideology sucks too.

I think Propagandhi is okay. They recommend a lot of good leftist websites/books in their CD inserts. I like Rudimentary Peni (but mainly for the Lovecraft references). And some of the Crucifucks and Chumbawamba too.

[taryn]

Jello Biafra at one point identified as an anarchist but then went left-liberal and joined the green party.

By the way, your user title is a Richard Hell reference, right? I need to start listening to him again...

He's an anarchist sympathizer. He doesn't think we're ready for anarchy yet.

[OneNamedNameLess]

Green Day.

[IcarusAngel]

One is Boy Sets Fire, they were a hardcore band and some members were Marxist/Communists:

Rookie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymrWeiBBiSk

Other cool songs are The Force Majeure and after the eulogy.

Born Against were left.

And the Refused were also a Marxist band. There was a pop-punk Marxist band called "Randy" as well.

[communard resolution]

Seriously check out The Dicks, an early Texas punk band and Marxist.

What's special about them is that their records should satisfy both those who want some political lyrics to shout along to as well as punk rock affeciandos who just want to hear some really cool music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09lox_vnJ9Y

Oh, and have I mentioned CCCP? I must have.

[GrouchoMarxist]

The Dils in the US were in the CPUSA I think - at least they called themselves communists.

They were joking or just did it to be dicks I don't know. Frontman renounced communism a few years later so it's hard to take Dils politics seriously.

Ska-P and the (International) Noise Conspiracy already been mentioned.

Reagan Youth have that one song Jesus Was A Communist.

[gorillafuck]

They were joking or just did it to be dicks I don't know. Frontman renounced communism a few years later so it's hard to take Dils politics seriously.

Ska-P and the (International) Noise Conspiracy already been mentioned.

Reagan Youth have that one song Jesus Was A Communist.
Reagan Youth were anarchists

[GrouchoMarxist]

Heyy sup Logan.

[gorillafuck]

Edit: WAIT NO YOU ARE BRIAN.

[GrouchoMarxist]

;]

[Bandito]

Green Day.
Whaaa aaa aaat?

[Nwoye]

Gang of Four

[KC]

Orchid and Panthers. Orchid's hardcore/screamo and Panthers is dancy rock. Both bands have the same vocalist, who is come sort of communist.

[cleef]

The problem I find with a lot of bands that have good ideologies is that their music kind of sucks. I used to call this "The Crass Dilemma" until hearing their song "Shaved Women." In second case, their ideology sucks too.

I think Propagandhi is okay. They recommend a lot of good leftist websites/books in their CD inserts. I like Rudimentary Peni (but mainly for the Lovecraft references). And some of the Crucifucks and Chumbawamba too.

yeh i would tend to agree with this...you can tell which bands have just been created to spread the ideology rather than for the love of music which is when you end up with shit songs.
I love politics in music but it cant be the sole focus...

[gorillafuck]

The problem I find with a lot of bands that have good ideologies is that their music kind of sucks. I used to call this "The Crass Dilemma" until hearing their song "Shaved Women." In second case, their ideology sucks too.
Crass are post-left anarcho-pacifists, their ideology always sucked before "Shaved Women" (though I like their music)

I never understood that song, what's the politics behind it?

[OneNamedNameLess]

Whaaa aaa aaat?

Jooo ooo oooke?

[Fawkes]

Why? lol

Because Vegan Reich are homophobic intolerant douche bags, like the rest of the hardline movement. They are not leftist and they definitely aren't punk.

[TheFutureOfThePublic]

Green Day.

You are kidding right ? Do you actually consider them punk ?

[bananachism]

no one's mentioned blaggers i.t.a, infa riot or red london? tut tut

[Andrei Kuznetsov]

Remember when Crisis became Death In June? Now how the fuck did THAT happen...

[apawllo]

1905

I really like their album called "Voice"


Control what comes in to control what comes out.
Absorbing their versions of what life's about.
Spoon fed the world through a filter that caters to money,
and fills us with doubt....
and there's so much more to see than the world through TV.
Numb from the boredom you can't feel the whip across your back.
Always look through the same window of course you'll have the same view.
It's lights, camera, action, take us and tell us what to do.
What to see what to think what to wear what to do with our lives.
Millions of channels to fashion reigns out of our eyes.
To walk back and forth in a box and bind myself with golden chains (is not freedom).

[communard resolution]

Remember when Crisis became Death In June? Now how the fuck did THAT happen...

Some people claim they were socialists only for the aesthetics.

[scarletghoul]

Manic Street Preachers of course!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYbB_xC3fk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgvC7tXnWCo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66FB6hHNXlw

[communard resolution]

Manic Street Preachers of course!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYbB_xC3fk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgvC7tXnWCo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66FB6hHNXlw

You don't think it's a bit of a stretch to refer to them as punk, though?

[scarletghoul]

They have punk roots. Just listen to some of their early music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCwxPAjqQxM

[communard resolution]

They have punk roots. Just listen to some of their early music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCwxPAjqQxM

Their first album, Generation Terrorists, sounds like overproduced arena rock to me - it's good for what it is, just not punk. Were they punkier on their earlier singles/EPs?

[scarletghoul]

Well there was obviously some of that influence in generation terrorists, but still some songs on there are punk rock (stay beautiful, damn dog etc) and yeah, their other stuff is punky too. Motown Junk is a classic example

Also the Holy Bible has a lot of punkiness to it

[communard resolution]

still some songs on there are punk rock (stay beautiful, damn dog etc) and yeah, their other stuff is punky too. Motown Junk is a classic examplet

Fair enough.

[scarletghoul]

They are still awesome either way

[bananachism]

i forgot these two great bands!

the housemartins, more indie than punk but they made good music, had a weird christian/marx thing going on but i think they're better than the beautiful south

the proletariat, great eighties boston hardcore punk, look for them on the this is boston not l.a compilation, or thier l.p soma holiday, they also have an e.p called marketplace but that's pretty rare

[Incendiarism]

The Eat have a lot of marxist references. Found a song called 'Communist Radio' off an old record and fell in love with them.

Encyclopedia of American Traitors have a lot of communist themes running through their music.

Karma Sutra have an album called "Daydreams of a Production Line Worker" and its pretty good.

The Style Council were a funk/soul group that had an album written during margaret thatcher's tenure. The songs are a reflection of the period and while not overtly marxist, I think the socialist inclinations were sincere.

[NewSocialist]

I remember there being a Stalinist punk band a while back called "Total Annihilation" or something. They were kind of just a local band, not super popular or anything. Last time I looked into them they became reactionary "patriotic Skinheads" though :laugh:

I think I still have a few MP3s from when they were a Marxist band, if anyone wants to hear them.

[Die Rote Fahne]

Anti-Flag, The Clash, The (International) Noise Conspiracy...though they could be classified between Punk and Alternative Rock.

[Punk-Guevara]

Leftover Crack! :)

[Red Star 73]

there are many communist punk bands in south europe or in south america.
desperta ferro, nucleo terco or opcio k-95 from the spanish state. from italy bands like erode or banda bassotti.
specially in the spanish speaking countries there is a whole movement: rock proletario
but more on the stalinist side. ;)

[Sasha]

not realy punk but new model army are leftists

[Mike Russell]

Socialist:
Stiff little fingers, amebix, angelic upstarts, the burial, Skindeep, Hudson Falcons, komintern 43, kommintern, mossin nagant,the movement, red alert, red london, the redskins, skit system, Blitz, (maybe) the business, hell bastard

anarchist:
anti-product, aus-rotten, behind enemy lines, blacken the skies, conflict, kraut, the mob,oi polloi, oroku, sacrilege(uk),

Humanist:
tragedy, stormcrow, northless, morne,fall of efrafa, extinction of mankind, neurosis.

[Die Rote Fahne]

Against Me!
Anti-Flag
The (International) Noise COnspiracy
Propagandhi
Rise Against

[Ravachol]

Don't know if they've been mentioned already, but the entire 'Rock Proletario' genre is explicitly marxist.

Mencer Vermello (Anti-revisionist)
Desperta Ferro (Anti-Fascist/Generally communist)
Zarkato
Nucleo Terco
Komintern43
Camrada Kalashnikov
Guardia Negra
Opcio K-95
Azione Diretta

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[redwinter]

"Red Winter" in Euskara is "Negu Gorriak", Fermin Muguruza's hiphop/punk fusion group that he formed after seeing Public Enemy play in Europe. He was previously the singer of the legendary punk band Kortatu from the Basque country.

[The Vegan Marxist]

'ANSWER' is one of the best sounding metal/punk/rapping groups that I know that have strong Marxist pull in their music. Just make sure you put the youtube (dot) com before this: watch?v=aE11d7zSYxQ

[Chimurenga.]

Not sure if this was said but The Stalin. Japanese punk rock band

[No pasarán]

I'm suprised no one has mentioned MDC (AKA Millions of Dead Cops) or Regan Youth? Other than that most of the bands I would have mentioned as important/ an introduction have been mentioned. Can't say I listen to many out and out marxist bands but certainly a lot of anarchist or socialist bands.

[MarxSchmarx]

They aren't marxist but boy sets fire used to be really political. I haven't listened to them in ages so don't know what's going on now. They used to quote "Manufacturing Consent" at their shows.

[Securitron]

ManLiftingBanner, revolutionary socialist straight-edge hardcore

[pierrotlefou]

1905

I really like their album called "Voice"
that was an amazing band im glad i had the pleasure to see.

[The Ben G]

Subhumans are a great anarcho-punk band.

Yes they are.

[The Vegan Marxist]

I know plenty of Spanish-Marxist punk bands: Answer (http://www.myspace.com/answer1997), NAO (http://www.myspace.com/somosnao), EINA (http://www.myspace.com/einappcc), Cor Fort (http://www.myspace.com/corfort08), & K.I.LL (http://www.myspace.com/kolumnainternacionalista).

[fionntan]

Chaos uk

[I.Drink.Your.Milkshake]

Malcom McLaren, thier manager, was a Situationist. But still, can anyone answer my question?

:laugh:


Malcolm McLaren was too a situationist! He had his own can of spray paint and everything...

[Sturmovik]

Mencer Vermello was already mentioned in this topic, they released a new album last month called Novas Batallas, it's excellent.